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| cornering the market on FWL converts?  hah |
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| Trying to put together a museum |
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| yeah I know, must be rough I will visit that's for sure. You better have a swap meet/fwl yearly meet! someone needs to have the true forward look meet of the year. |
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| I'm hoping to bring 5-9 cars to carlise. It's going to take me at least another year to get things together. Finding a building hasn't been easy. I've never laid out anything like this |
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Location: Williams California | Hope it all works out for you, Mike!! |
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Location: Malung, SWEDEN | Great catch, Mike!
Now you need a proper Fireflite .... |
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Location: The Mile High City | Congrats, Mike! I am so glad you netted this beauty. I think you are the type enjoy it by driving it!
Although, given the assumed value - nobody would blame you if you stored it for appreciation of investment.
Great car, great new owner!
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| No, my stuff gets driven. I will trailer some to carlisle, good guys and hot august nights just so I can bring the cars I want, but they will be driven. For the most part, if you see one of my cars on a trailer, call the police, it has been stolen haha. |
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Location: The Mile High City | Post a few pictures when you get a chance. I can never see enough of this car!
Of the images of cars I have seen, it has one of the most appealing paint schemes - spruce with a willow sweep. A total knockout.
I am not sure it would have been as eye-catching if the scheme were reversed, either.
This was a carefully thought-out car, I think. |
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| I should have the car in about 10 days. Going to mecum this weekend, the previous owner of car is as well. We'll ship it next week, so hopefully I have it around first of June. I'll post up a lot then. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | If there is a "proper" Fireflite, how do you tell one from
an improper Fireflite ?
Years ago a guy contacted me. He had a 58 Firesweep
4ht in Willow Green with black (or charcoal ?) roof and color
sweep. It was jawdrop breathtaking !
Unfortunately, the car had fallen into unappreciative hands
and the next time I saw the car it was blue and white .....
BORING ! |
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | Nice buy Mike , that's a great car indeed ! Since I sold my 58 Desotos I have a mega collection still of 58 Desoto only literature/collectibles etc.. if you are interested in buying it . Some great stuff there .
If interested email me nascoman (at) optusnet.com.au |
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Location: Malung, SWEDEN | Doctor DeSoto - 2017-05-18 4:28 AM If there is a "proper" Fireflite, how do you tell one from an improper Fireflite ? You should know, you are the doctor!  |
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Location: The Mile High City | Mike, did you pick this one over Max's black Firedome and the white Adventurer? |
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| Lancer Mike - 2017-05-22 7:25 PM
Mike, did you pick this one over Max's black Firedome and the white Adventurer?
I'm not sure who max is? The 58 Adv in ohio isn't for sale. I called countless times and just got tired of chasing. Then they posted it's only for "viewing". Since acquiring a few things out of sweden, a lot of guys have contacted me from over there. My goal is to fly over in the fall and put my eyes on some of these cars. There are a lot of made cars there, have to be careful. Then look to add around start of year. I'm struggling to find a nice place to put a museum locally. Goal is to be open end of next year. |
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Location: The Mile High City | Max Sokolov is a forum member (Parat11) from Austria who did a full restoration of a black '58 Firedome convertible with a French turquoise sweep. Very attractive! It was at auction in Florida earlier this year.
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| Ahh yes it was at Amelia I think, hollywood auction. I was unable to make that due to being out of the country. It looks like a great car! I'm not sure where it is now or what they're asking for it. |
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Location: Lubbock, TX | The black and green 58 Convert was for sale at an auction in New England last fall I believe. Can't find the listing at the moment... The Green Spring Special that Mike just bought was the one at Amelia Island. I know the restorer, Greg Groom; in fact, I even had my 57 Adventurer Convert done by him! He does great work, and I'm sure the car will be well enjoyed!
~Peter
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Location: Lubbock, TX | Ah, here we go, this is the black car, still available: https://www.dragoneauctions.com/1958-desoto-firedome |
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| I just looked over the black and green 58. Personally, I wouldn't touch the car. It would have to sell at an incredibly low price. When you shut the passenger door, the entire passenger rear quarter shakes. There is body work appearing out of everywhere. The hood looks like it was painted at a totally different time in a different flatish black. Also looks like fiberglass work on the passenger side of the hood. Body plugs mission in the firewall. Any potential buyer needs to see this car before buying. It's for sale tomorrow at an auction near Hartford, CT. Body panels don't line up well. I think this is a mess of a car personally. If you could get it at the right price, sure. The money they're expecting for it, 120-130, someone would be incredibly disappointed if they bought it for that. I flew here from Indy to look at the car, with possible intentions of buying it as it's no reserve. I have a feeling when stripped down, this thing would get ugly. |
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"and DeSoto’s unique push button shifter sits to the right of a dashboard that carries a space-aged styling and a two-tone steering wheel. "
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Location: The Mile High City | Mike McCandless - 2017-09-02 7:14 PM
I just looked over the black and green 58. Personally, I wouldn't touch the car. I have a feeling when stripped down, this thing would get ugly.
Ugh! That's too bad! The images of the car look soooooo good! I know when Bill K. dragged it out of that NY scrap yard, it was very tough shape. |
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| I went there with the intention of buying the fire dome. After spending time and looking over it, was just shocked. I saw the pictures as did everyone else on here. I was surprised to see so many issues with the body of the car. Throw in all the missing body plugs, just strange. I don't know what it sold for as I had to leave to catch a flight. I got VERY interested in the 58D convertible they had, recent restoration. Few things scared me on the car. Car was bought semi top of mark, 151k fee's included. That's probably right for the level of car it was. It was originally a white car, now black. Look to be sorted out well, but only 10 miles. What scared me, the car had a different VIN tag on it just weeks prior. |
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Location: The Mile High City | convertible VIN? That's James Bond stuff, right there! (remember the Aston Martin DB6 with spinning license plates)
I think that D has been offered a few times. It would be interesting to see images of the previous VIN.
nectar for attorneys!
Do you think the De Soto was abandoned near the end of the restoration?
Maybe Max said "button it up and get rid of it."
I remember images of the interior. Everything is perfect and then the parking brake warning light is missing.
The problems you describe seem deeper and more disturbing.
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| I think the D originally came out of texas. Ended up in Canada for restoration. At one point, it had a fake vin on it, that went to a hardtop. It was later removed and the original put back on. This car was recently completed, as in the past 6 months. Not sure what it's history was. Here is the car: https://www.dragoneauctions.com/1958-chrysler300d The only downside on the D, trying to hold the hood up. Springs were shot and you couldn't have the hood open for the event.
On the desoto, the interior and underneath looked nice. It was pouring rain at the auction with little coverage, hence no pictures. Was in the middle of nowhere CT, an hour from Hartford. |
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Location: The Mile High City | Just looking at the images I have seen of the black De Soto, I thought it might be the premier example of a '58 Firedome convertible extant (the proverbial #1 car).
After reading Mike's description, it doesn't sound like it would be. I know mine isn't even remotely close. Maybe Brad Jones' car or the car Alan Faltus previously owned would be. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Whatever became of Max ? Did he burn out and drop out ?
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| It sold for 121,000 |
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Location: The Mile High City | what do you think it was worth?
Max divested of all his '58 De Sotos. He went on a giant search several years ago and beat practically every bush to get three or four '58 Dome convertibles.
This is the only one he restored. The others he had all sold to a fella here in Colorado. I talked to him. He said he had enough stuff to make three cars. |
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Location: Finger Lakes NY | did the colorado fella get my primer gray 58 Conv?
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Location: The Mile High City | Yes, Jeff. That's what I understand. |
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| Hard to say on value. Depends on how bad the body work is in 2-3 years. With no work I think the car will struggle to break 100 in 2-3 years. If you wanted one and didn't care, probably right price. Not a lot of them for sale obviously. Rare to have a buyer these days where price doesn't matter and they are buying on emotion. |
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| Your green DeSoto is spectacular! Was it originally painted two tone green? What color is the top? Wow what a beauty! |
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1958 DeSoto Firedome convertible No Reserve!
