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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-04 4:45 PM (#471631 - in reply to #464609)
Subject: Re: The restoration has started


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Location: Minor Hill, TN		There is more to that and this is not an over night job. There is grinding,sand blasting , filling dents , cutting and replacing rusted panels . Primer and then paint

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plymouth
Posted 2015-03-04 6:49 PM (#471646 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		I am aware of that, but why not sand the car completely down at once besides doing a little here and a little there ? This is your project. I was merely trying to help you save a little time.
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-05 5:31 AM (#471668 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I am going to have my dad remove the trim I do not feel comfortable doing that myself. I am taking my time on this car because I want it done right the 1st time. There are also panels that need to be cut and replaced. The car was repainted 1 time but I do not know who painted the car last but it was not a good job


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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-03-05 6:43 PM (#471719 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: tailFinland		Steph.
-you gotta take interior panels and rear seat off to get an access to side trim clips (take them off first)
-window clips are snap on type, takes about 5 minutes to take them off with a flat screw driver
-Take front seat and sill panels and carpet off too, you have to if you weld the rockers, it is a fire danger and you have to be able to extinguish it if nessesary.
-get those rusted areas done with new patch panels first before you do any sanding and spraying.
-I think you have to sand whole car to bare metal. Thats gonna be costly but if you get new acrylic paint sparyed on those red-white-red spots, even fith spraycan primer between, those edeges will boil through the new paint. Insulating base layer should be sprayed and sand it again - but then you would have at least 2 new layers of paint on those 4-5 old paint layers (no one can tell what they are and how they react with the new paint)
Good paintjob is not sprayning the finishing surface it is all what is under the paint.
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-07 2:43 AM (#471875 - in reply to #464609)
Subject: Re: The restoration has started


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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I am going to let my dad do this for me I do not feel comfortable doing this myself. I even did some more block sanding on the car some spots were done with sand paper in hand .

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plymouth
Posted 2015-03-07 9:40 PM (#471946 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: McComb, Mississippi		It's not difficult to remove the trim...
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57plymouth
Posted 2015-03-08 7:25 AM (#471962 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Blythewood, SC		Are you sanding this whole car down by hand? That's going to take years. If you plan to paint it, you should go ahead and get a compressor and a DA sander now. It will shave a lot of time off and give a better result.

Also, all that dust will settle behind the trim. You will have a tough time getting it all out. Any dust that is trapped will blow out when you paint the car, and get dust in your final paint. That's the reason everyone says to pull the trim.
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-08 8:12 PM (#472015 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I am doing some spots by hand but I am block sanding when it comes to the compressor and the DA sander I have not learned how to use 1 but I am willing to learn . I have a blower were I can blow it off. The trimming will be removed but Iam leaving that up to some one who knows what they are doing. My dad restored the black '61 he removed the trim and repaired the dents on it.



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-11 5:02 PM (#472233 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Here is part 2 of the Aero wheel restoration done at home.



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-13 6:33 PM (#472402 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I did some sanding on the roof today . There will be no more sanding for a while



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-19 1:04 AM (#472849 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		The test drive .
I took the car out for a short test drive after the new center link was installed here is a short video of it and some more photos of my work
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Posted 2015-03-19 5:50 PM (#472900 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		I'm puzzled here Steph, you should pull those front fenders and make a proper rust repair and as adviced by many; pull the chrome, stainless and bezels so that you can sand down the surface evenly without damaging the "jewelery".

Always nice to see some action videos, thanks' for sharing
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Posted 2015-03-19 6:30 PM (#472907 - in reply to #464609)
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I am sure it will be a great 20 footer when its done

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-19 8:31 PM (#472913 - in reply to #472900)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		My dad going to pull the fenders off I will leave that part up to him. I did the sanding by hand I did not go near the chrome. The only time I used the tool when I was no were near the stainless steel. I am not ignoring any advice I am doing it the way my dad is teaching me. Alot of folks have their way of doing body work. I am just learning this .
This might be the last posting until the car is done . I will take photos of the progress but they will not be posted here these are the last photos of the progress .

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-22 4:02 PM (#473150 - in reply to #472907)
Subject: Re: The restoration has started


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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I am not ignoring any advice I am doing this the way my dad is teaching me. He will be removing the trim and the front fenders. I am not using the body file when I am around the trim . My dad told me its not chrome its Stainless steel. People have their way of doing body work . I am not going to rush on this project I am taking my time because I want it done right the 1st time. I will post photos when the car is done
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Posted 2015-03-22 4:24 PM (#473152 - in reply to #473150)
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1961plymouthfury - 2015-03-22 4:02 PM

My dad told me its not chrome its Stainless steel.


Your dad is right
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-23 2:11 PM (#473226 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I did some more block sanding but there will be no photos of my work
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-27 7:06 PM (#473608 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Today the back up lenses and tail light lens and the driver's side trimming was removed and I sanded in those areas today . I blocked sanded in the area were the trimming was removed but the rocker panel was done by hand. I will be posting more photos when more work was done I did not remove the trimming my dad did this part . He wants to remove it himself. I also discovered it has the original paint under the trimming. When my dad was removing the script fury off the right fender it was accidently broken . He am sure he will try to fix it or I might need to look for another 1

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Posted 2015-03-28 11:43 AM (#473665 - in reply to #464609)
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More progress - thank you for the photos, Steph.

Your car's door sills look to be in good shape? Wish I could ay the same for my car.


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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-28 11:47 AM (#473668 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I am not sure if your sill plate can be repaired or not . The Sanding by the sill plate was done by hand. I also have an album here on the restoration on this car. I am signing out for a couple of days but I will be back
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-29 2:44 PM (#473783 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I also got a pair of NOS back up lenses it never hurts to have spare parts for your fowardlook I am also looking at getting spare taillight lenses also
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-03-30 9:36 PM (#473914 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		More sand done today were I got to the bare metal it was primered



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-02 4:40 AM (#474143 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Here are some more photos of my work I sanded on the driver side but did not do the passenger because the trimming is still there. I also bought an extra pair of tail light lenses and a right back up llight housing. I also plan to buy more spare parts because it never hurts to have them around incase you need them

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-05 3:03 PM (#474444 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		There will not be any more sanding on the car until the rest of the trimming has been removed. if there is more done it will be were there is no trimming. I am also buying what I need for the car and also plan to have spare parts because you never know when you will need them
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-06 6:07 PM (#474537 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		More progress the rest of the trimming was removed and the mascaras, the front grill and the drivers fender spear. I even discovered original paint under the passenger trimming. I did alittle block sanding then stopped because my dad just painted a radiator for his '68 charger and I had no problems with that at all. If it did not rain I would of done the sanding out side

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-10 3:35 PM (#475002 - in reply to #464609)
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Posted 2015-04-10 8:38 PM (#475030 - in reply to #464609)
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-10 9:31 PM (#475034 - in reply to #471646)
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-10 9:37 PM (#475035 - in reply to #475030)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Oh yes . He will be cutting out the rusted panels and welding on new panels. He will not be removing the trimming off the back windows . On my other '61 a part of the rear window trimming would come lose and he does not want to take any chances so it will be masked off instead of removed the same with the front windows trimming.
There are times I am down in that garage alone sanding on this but at least I got some of this out of the way for him

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Posted 2015-04-12 5:11 AM (#475168 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Sanding inside the doors .



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-13 5:01 PM (#475354 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		The air sanding started today. I am sure some day I will be taught to use 1 but until I am I am not touching it.
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Posted 2015-04-13 5:26 PM (#475356 - in reply to #475354)
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Posted 2015-04-13 7:42 PM (#475374 - in reply to #464609)
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Posted 2015-04-16 9:05 PM (#475720 - in reply to #464609)
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-04-18 5:46 AM (#475856 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: tailFinland		I gotta ask this again, why dont anyone first do those bodyworks to rockers, rear quarters, trunk lid, fenders... They have not been done for several months and you are already sanding doors and engine comapartmet for the paint.
Why seals, sillplates and door panels are not removed if you gonna get them painted?
Usually sanding is made just before spraying the paint and before that you gotta ensure that there is no any silicone or grease in the surfaces. Old cars has been waxed thosands of times (wax contains silicone) rubber treatments are pure silicone, engine fumes are greasy... those had to washed away with silicone remover before sanding.
If there is silicone residues it will ruin the new paint in those spots. New paint will pop off from the surfaces wich are not totally clean and proberly sanded.
Now sanded surfaces almost suck residues, dirt and crease if you let them be for several months. Welding and cutting means smoke and dirt.
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TerryM
Posted 2015-04-18 5:59 AM (#475857 - in reply to #464609)
Subject: Re: The restoration has started


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Location: Brisbane Australia		From some of the comments posted here I guess this is why more people don't post pics of their restorations.
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Posted 2015-04-18 6:54 AM (#475861 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Blythewood, SC		Looks like you are making progress! Using a DA will speed you up. I doubt you need any training, just grab it and go to town.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-04-18 11:03 AM (#475872 - in reply to #464609)
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its getting there, its a different technique but its working and with patience it will work. We have zero patience on the internets... those headlight base metal might need welded though?

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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-04-18 12:27 PM (#475880 - in reply to #475857)
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TerryM - 2015-04-18 5:59 AM

From some of the comments posted here I guess this is why more people don't post pics of their restorations.

If you post your project pictures and stories to discussion forum you might end up to situation that you are receiving adviceses or helpful tips by the people who may know something about auto restoration.
Sure you should ignore them if you are a maestro yourself.
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-19 5:06 PM (#476008 - in reply to #475856)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		There is a air compresser I use to blow off the dust but when some one has their car in there and the dust gets on they fuss about it. I am like what ever. I am sanding on the car to help my dad . I will be taking the sill plates off . When the trimming was removed I discovered original paint and bottom door were it shuts . My dad will be doing the welding on the car . He is going to train me to use the air sander. My answer to you question is people have their way of doing body work. If I had the funds I would take it to a body shop but I do not. In my other '61 my dad drilled small holes in the rear quarter so the water could drain out. He will be doing the same with my current '61 .
I will be using mequires wax on this car when it gets done
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-19 5:12 PM (#476009 - in reply to #475872)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Yes it is getting there my dad has a '79 vette that needs to be painted. It belonged to my late Uncle . My dad will be doing the welding on the car . Its also really sad there are not many fowardlooks around
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-20 8:38 PM (#476151 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I blew off the dust with the air hose and primered the bare metal. There are times I thought about saving my money and taking it to a body shop but by having this done at home I am saving money on the labor

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-30 12:54 PM (#477019 - in reply to #475356)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		The bottom rear fender panels to a '61 dodge would work also . I noticed they are the same
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-04-30 12:54 PM (#477020 - in reply to #475356)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		The bottom rear fender panels to a '61 dodge would work also . I noticed they are the same
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-05-06 5:54 PM (#477497 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Today I was trained to use an air sander . Here are some photos of my air sanding. My dad said enough sanding has been done on the car for now .



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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-05-09 6:42 PM (#477841 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		Today I cleaned and polished the grille but there is more to do on the grill. I also removed the headlights but 1 . I had to put some blaster on the screws to losen them. Its getting there . I am told the sanding is done on the car for now its time to attack that cancer. The blaster is like wd40 .
I will admit I still miss the other car . I will also admit when the other car burned I almost lost my temper.

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MOPAR-TO-YA
Posted 2015-05-09 7:18 PM (#477847 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA		Steph, stick with it . I understand why you are doing these things out of the "normal" order. It may not sound like it, but most advice given here is given with good intent. When someone in our FL group is putting in as much work as you, we just want you to be pleased with it when you are done................Co-member of the FL site named Plymouth started out young, almost no experience, and no one to help him hands-on.. Look at him now--giving good advice to others and a car to be proud of.........................................MO
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-05-09 8:22 PM (#477854 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		I am sticking with this but if the screw is too tight I ask for help or I keep trying if I get frustrated I walk away for a while then try again or ask for help. I got to take a nap I get to work 3rd shift tonight .
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-05-14 3:27 AM (#478224 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		There will be no more work done for a while I got to get some rear fender panels .
I believe the bottom rear fender panels to a1960 Plymouth would work
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2015-05-14 3:27 AM (#478225 - in reply to #464609)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN		There will be no more work done for a while I got to get some rear fender panels .
I believe the bottom rear fender panels to a 1960 Plymouth would work and the bottom of a 1961 dodge would work too . I will keep hunting until I find them. I know of a pair but I was advised not to trust metal after its been in one hot fire. I am taking that advice.

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