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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2016-03-26 4:05 AM (#507952 - in reply to #507939)
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NicksGarage - 2016-03-25 2:54 AM Here are a couple VINS before yours with later SPD. 8403126206 - 0201 8403126221 - 0201 I just dug up the tags from my old car and it has the same SPD as yours. 8403129501 - 0114 Of course the SPD (Scheduled Production Date) doesn't always line up with the actual build date of the car and the cars didn't necessarily go down the line in sequence to the VIN. Always interesting looking into what Chrysler did. Hope you can get your engine unfrozen. The one to my white car was left outside for several years with the heads off. I had to hammer all of the pistons out.

 

Thanks a lot for your informations. What I'm asking me is if the SPD is linked with the sequence number and if the VIN (normally a consecutive number) is in line with all cars produced  at the Jefferson plant at that time. Or if the sequence number and VIN number is related to the order of the dealer at the factory. Actually I really don't have any clue when exactly my Letter has been assembled at the production line.

 

Happy Motoring!

 

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wizard
Posted 2016-03-26 5:59 AM (#507955 - in reply to #469368)
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Dieter, the VIN (normally a consecutive number) was in line with all cars produced at the plant. That's the reason that the first 4 numbers are hand punched while the rest is stamped in.

There's a high possibility that the car in question was produced at the scheduled production date.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2016-03-26 6:41 AM (#507957 - in reply to #469368)
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Hi Sven

Thanks a lot.

This morning, when I applied torque to the center screw (3/4" screw) with my torque ratchet something unexpected happened when I applied the torque CCW. I could break loose the center screw. So I could only apply torque to he CW direction (saftey reason: adjusted to the nominal torque addressed in the 1960 service manual).

 

I think I need a chain wrench now to apply torque to the double grooved pulley, e.g. http://www.reedmfgco.com/en/products/wrenches/chain-wrenches-heavy-... or

http://www.rothenberger-usa.com/en/products/-/208-chain-pipe-wrench-heavy-duty-/

 

Happy Motoring!

 

Dieter

 

BTW: I have the imagination that the crankshaft moved a little bit - in one cylinder I could see a small band with a different color (more red) at the cylinder wall above the piston.



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wizard
Posted 2016-03-26 6:57 AM (#507958 - in reply to #469368)
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Yes Dieter, one VIN tag was picked for the actual car on the assembly line, could be one New Yorker before a 300F after a Saratoga etc...

Don't use those wrenches on the pulleys Dieter - you'll uin the pulley (best case) or destroy the harmonic damper (worst case)

Perhaps you could use a Crow bar through the drain access in the bottom of the bell housing. You'll need a thin one, eventually slightly bent sideways because the flywheel is to the Engine side in the opening.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2016-03-26 12:25 PM (#507979 - in reply to #469368)
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I was working again at the Letter. To my disappointment the crankshaft didn't move even a thousands of an inch. I removed the cover plate at the bellhouse and noticed a tag at the front of the drivers side cylinder bank while I was seeking for a serial number at the engine block. That doesn't look very promissing.

At my Beast the serial number is punched into the boss behind the water pump housing. The serial number of the engine of my former truck was punched into the front of the engine block (318 A engine).

 

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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-03-26 4:30 PM (#507993 - in reply to #469368)
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They didn't put the car serial number on the engines until after the start of 1968. That year they are on the top left rear of the engine next to the bellhousing. 1969 and up it's on the pan rail at the bottom of the engine.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2016-03-27 11:06 AM (#508028 - in reply to #469368)
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Hi Nick thanks for your replay.

 

Happy Motoring!

 

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2016-03-27 11:09 AM (#508029 - in reply to #469368)
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Today I looked for what is to do for the preparation of the transmission removal. Then I looked at the trunk lid again and found some evidence that the ornament didn't walk away itself Somebody apparently used a screw driver and all four mounting bolts are still in place. Plus there was some sealant or glue used to  fix the ornament in the trunk lid... personally I do not wonder when my ornament would appear at e-pain in a few years...

 

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2016-03-28 9:17 AM (#508117 - in reply to #469368)
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Today I removed the propeller shaft. The u-joint looks okay, it's just a little bit sticky but no lash noticeable. First I removed the propeller shaft from the emergency brake and afterwards at the yoke at the differential. When I removed the drive shaft I vaguely remember that first I removed it at the yoke of the differential and afterwards at the emergency brake. No wonder the propeller shaft fell to my nose when removing it from the emergency brake first.

Now it's a real pain to remove the cap nut to remove the speedometer cable. That's the next step to proceed to remove the Plymouth transmission.

 

Happy Motoring!

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2016-03-31 2:52 PM (#508435 - in reply to #469368)
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Yesterday I got a parcel from England, containg No 12 x 0.75 stainless steel machine screws (10 pieces). Three of them I used to mount the cleaned (ultra sonic bath) and lubed deck lid latch. Now I could close the deck lid like on a normal car and I do not need the clamping set anymore. To open I use a metric #4 blade screw driver. That fits perfect into the slot for the opener mechanism of the latch.

Today I removed the non stock expansion container for the radiator. It seems somebody tried to cure the loss of coolant fluid (cylinder head gasket leak) with an external container...

 

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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-03-31 4:09 PM (#508439 - in reply to #469368)
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I need to replace my trunk latch, the spring that holds it open when you open the lid broke. I did replace the lock cylinder so I don't have to use a screwdriver anymore.
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Posted 2016-04-01 3:31 PM (#508538 - in reply to #469368)
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Hi Nick

Compared to your 300F I need a trunk lock. There was none in the parts stock I got from the seller. As for the trunk lock latch I would contact Big M. As far as I know it's a generic part used on many Mopar cars during that time period.

 

Happy Motoring!

 

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Posted 2016-04-03 7:35 AM (#508658 - in reply to #469368)
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Yesterday night I took pictures of the rear panel because there is a discussion at Jaris thread to help. At the picture collection are two pictures with the seam (top end and bottom end). Thanks to the pictures of Nick I found two pieces for the C pillar. As well documented with pictures.

I found a tin can mounted below the stock washer water canister. It looks like a reservoir for the vacuum. Anybody has a similar tin can mounted below the canister?

 

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Posted 2016-04-03 10:14 AM (#508660 - in reply to #469368)
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The coffee tin is standard Equipment Dieter. It's a vacuum resovair tank for wiper washers and heater actuators
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Posted 2016-04-03 10:43 AM (#508664 - in reply to #469368)
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Thanks Wizard. So I'm gonna to keep it.

 

Happy Motoring!

 

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Posted 2016-04-04 6:14 PM (#508760 - in reply to #508660)
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wizard - 2016-04-03 7:14 AM

The coffee tin is standard Equipment Dieter. It's a vacuum resovair tank for wiper washers and heater actuators


I'm missing this can on my 300F. Is it the same in '61-62? I know I can get a generic one.





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Posted 2016-04-04 7:11 PM (#508767 - in reply to #508760)
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That system was only used in 1960 on Chrysler and DeSoto. In 61 I believe they went back to the Jiffy Jet system. This is the Trico Coordinated washer system, which was also used on Corvette and Cadillac in that era. As to the vacuum can, maybe John Fowlie has some ( BIG-M ).


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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-04-05 12:53 AM (#508794 - in reply to #469368)
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They may have had a smaller can for the heater controls in '61-62. The '68-69 Chargers used a similar can for the hidden headlights. It was mounted under the battery. In '70 they went to an electric motor. I may have the can from my old 300F.
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Posted 2016-04-23 4:36 PM (#510072 - in reply to #469368)
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When I visited my Letter the first time at the yard of the shipping company in Switzerland I discovered that the trunk lid ornament was not on the trunk lid anymore, I informed a friend. His proposal was to use a plain deck lid like from a Windsor, Saratoga or New Yorker. His point was that the trunk lid is in a discutable state as well (almost beyond repair) and some 300F left the factory without the toilet seat. I resisted until today because my plan was to bring my Letter back to the state it left the factory.

If I would use a plain deck lid anybody could get out (with the broadcast sheet) that my Letter isn't original anymore. As a consequence I'm not related to the broadcast sheet anymore so I could choose any color for the body in a range from gay rose to charcoal metallic and from viper green to blue, red, black or dark brown for the seat covers and door panels.

Or let the original (and repaired) trunk lid with no ornament forever...
Happy restoring!

Dieter

 

BTW: my opinion: any body color except rose and black. Black is an absolutely no go for me.



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Posted 2016-04-24 5:04 AM (#510101 - in reply to #469368)
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Yesterday I removed all (except the license plate illumination) lights at the body of my Letter. There are clear evidence that my Letter once was repainted with a brighter white than the original eggshell like original color. What color I would choose I'll decide later on. As I wrote above if I'll change the trunk lid with a plain one then I could choose another color as well. My favorite is stardust blue metallic like I saw on a 300F convertible (picture from Sweden). That convertible looks very sharp with stardust blue metallic.

 

Next steps are removing the bumpers, the resting chrome trime (passenger side only), the dashboard, the transmission, the engine, the side windows, the wiring harness and - when my Letter is on the floor again - the windshield and rear window.

 

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Posted 2016-04-24 11:14 AM (#510105 - in reply to #469368)
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If you're going to go with a non-standard color have you considered doing two-tone? I really like this red car and thought it would be cool to see a 300F in two-tone like this. Maybe the blue you're thinking of with a darker blue roof. The contrast really makes the fins stand out even more.




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Posted 2016-04-24 2:07 PM (#510107 - in reply to #469368)
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Thanks a lot for your proposal. This car looks really nice, especially with the wire wheels and the two tone color. I like red as well. But I assume I'll keep my Letter Alaskan White as it was when it left the factory. I can live with it even though it's not my favorite color.

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?type=paint&paint=7003&ditzler=8218&syear=1960&smanuf=Chrysler&smodel=&sname=Alaskan%20White&rows=50

Furthermore I took some pictures of the grille after I removed it. It looks sad, the frame.

 

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Posted 2016-04-24 10:15 PM (#510130 - in reply to #469368)
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Can you use a New Yorker grill frame to replace that?
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Posted 2016-04-24 10:40 PM (#510134 - in reply to #510130)
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I am fairly sure you could use a New Yorker grille frame. Holes would need to be drilled for the bar mounts.
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Posted 2016-04-25 1:33 AM (#510145 - in reply to #469368)
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Yes, the outer grille frame is the same, if you look on the Picture of the inside, you can see that the bolt hole was drilled, not casted.
It would be wise to mount a reinforcement washer in the 4 mounting positions for cross.
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Posted 2016-04-25 2:13 PM (#510182 - in reply to #469368)
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Big thank you for your comments and proposals. I hope I could find a nice NY grille frame. In the meantime I took two more pictures to show details of the frame and the grille from the back. What I don't know is if the vertical rails of the grille should be straight or slightly bent like on mine.

 

I'll appreciate your answers very much. Thank you.

 

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Posted 2016-04-25 3:24 PM (#510188 - in reply to #469368)
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It looks a little sloppy on the bolts Dieter, actually the spare part manual shows two different frames;

PC-3 1863 785
PC-300 1963 235

Could it be that the frame already is a NY one? At least it seems like the bolts from the side should have had something more, perhaps a slated washer.

Nick, can you check on your car and confirm?
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Posted 2016-04-25 4:25 PM (#510193 - in reply to #510188)
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It looks a little sloppy on the bolts Dieter, actually the spare part manual shows two different frames;

PC-3 1863 785
PC-300 1963 235

Could it be that the frame already is a NY one? At least it seems like the bolts from the side should have had something more, perhaps a slated washer.

Nick, can you check on your car and confirm?


I'll take a look at mine and see what it has there. It will be a couple days as my car is still at my friend's shop.
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Posted 2016-04-25 10:59 PM (#510226 - in reply to #508760)
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wizard - 2016-04-03 7:14 AM

The coffee tin is standard Equipment Dieter. It's a vacuum resovair tank for wiper washers and heater actuators


I'm missing this can on my 300F. Is it the same in '61-62? I know I can get a generic one.



I talked to someone who has multiple 1960 Chrysler and they only had the can on one of them. I looked at my car and don't see any evidence that one was there before.
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Posted 2016-04-26 1:31 AM (#510239 - in reply to #469368)
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If the cars had the Trico coordinated wiper washer, then there must be a resovair tank. If the car had a Jiffy bag with Electric pump, then there's no need for a resovair tank.

Obviously, Power brakes Always needs a resovair tank, but that was mounted in the left front fender or under the battery tray
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Posted 2016-04-26 2:10 AM (#510241 - in reply to #510239)
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wizard - 2016-04-25 10:31 PM

If the cars had the Trico coordinated wiper washer, then there must be a resovair tank. If the car had a Jiffy bag with Electric pump, then there's no need for a resovair tank.

Obviously, Power brakes Always needs a resovair tank, but that was mounted in the left front fender or under the battery tray


These were all 1960 cars with the vacuum washer like mine.
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Posted 2016-04-26 2:16 AM (#510242 - in reply to #469368)
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Dieter, my F has no toilet seta from the factory, but on the build sheet it's clearly written "special order deck lid". I think there is a pic on my F page here on the forum. I would restore the car as is. You have to call Dan Petty for 300 parts, or hear someone in the 300 club. Also Jeff Carter has some old stuff avaible, but he is not easy to reach
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Posted 2016-04-26 2:42 AM (#510245 - in reply to #510241)
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wizard - 2016-04-25 10:31 PM

If the cars had the Trico coordinated wiper washer, then there must be a resovair tank. If the car had a Jiffy bag with Electric pump, then there's no need for a resovair tank.

Obviously, Power brakes Always needs a resovair tank, but that was mounted in the left front fender or under the battery tray


These were all 1960 cars with the vacuum washer like mine.


Thats very strange Nick - where is the vaccum "feed" hose on the Trico connected to then? Power brake resovair or manifold?
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Posted 2016-04-26 10:32 AM (#510265 - in reply to #510245)
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NicksGarage - 2016-04-26 8:10 AM

wizard - 2016-04-25 10:31 PM

If the cars had the Trico coordinated wiper washer, then there must be a resovair tank. If the car had a Jiffy bag with Electric pump, then there's no need for a resovair tank.

Obviously, Power brakes Always needs a resovair tank, but that was mounted in the left front fender or under the battery tray


These were all 1960 cars with the vacuum washer like mine.


Thats very strange Nick - where is the vaccum "feed" hose on the Trico connected to then? Power brake resovair or manifold?


That's part of my problem, all the vacuum lines were disconnected and some were plugged with twigs. I'll take a picture of what's there. I hooked them back up based on the sizes.

I don't see the vacuum reservoir in the parts book but it might not be listed with the rest of the washer stuff. The vacuum tank for the brakes is listed in the brake section. They do list the washer hoses and the lengths.

3/16" OD 127"
9/32" OD 40"
13/32" OD 76"
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Posted 2016-04-26 11:27 PM (#510313 - in reply to #469368)
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I looked at my spare grille and it's like Dieter's where the bolts go through the side. I'll look at the one in my car tomorrow.




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Posted 2016-04-27 1:24 AM (#510325 - in reply to #469368)
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Well, that IS a sloppy installation - now we can almost be sure that they used the New Yorker frame and drilled holes in it
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Posted 2016-04-27 1:10 PM (#510368 - in reply to #469368)
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Thanks a lot for all of your comments. Personally I was wondering as well why Chrysler didn't use specialised washers to get a parallel surface to the hex head of the screw. The two different parts numbers for the frame could indicate just with (300F) or with no screw holes (NY) in the frame.

 

Happy Restoring!

 

Dieter



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Posted 2016-04-27 1:16 PM (#510370 - in reply to #510242)
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antonellomopar - 2016-04-25 8:16 AM Dieter, my F has no toilet seta from the factory, but on the build sheet it's clearly written "special order deck lid". I think there is a pic on my F page here on the forum. I would restore the car as is. You have to call Dan Petty for 300 parts, or hear someone in the 300 club. Also Jeff Carter has some old stuff avaible, but he is not easy to reach

 

Hi Antonello
Thanks a lot for your suggestions.

The "toilet seat" is a surname of peoples in the States. In my broadcast sheet fragment there is the box under TRIM "Flitesweep Deck Lid". But there is no number in the check box like e.g. "radio/speeker" which has a 3 (423).

 

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Posted 2016-04-27 2:22 PM (#510373 - in reply to #510368)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2016-04-27 10:10 AM

Thanks a lot for all of your comments. Personally I was wondering as well why Chrysler didn't use specialised washers to get a parallel surface to the hex head of the screw. The two different parts numbers for the frame could indicate just with (300F) or with no screw holes (NY) in the frame.

 

Happy Restoring!

 

Dieter



Maybe there was a spacer in there. I'll be out working on my car later today and I'll take a look. It wouldn't be that hard to make an angled spacer to go in there to use a New Yorker grille shell.
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Posted 2016-04-27 2:45 PM (#510375 - in reply to #469368)
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If there is no number in the box, it means this option was not ordered. On the F the toilet seat trunk lid was standard, so it didn't show on the broadcast sheet. It would appear it's deletion, as on my car.
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Posted 2016-04-27 2:49 PM (#510376 - in reply to #469368)
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Posted 2016-04-27 4:17 PM (#510383 - in reply to #510375)
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antonellomopar - 2016-04-27 8:45 PM

If there is no number in the box, it means this option was not ordered. On the F the toilet seat trunk lid was standard, so it didn't show on the broadcast sheet. It would appear it's deletion, as on my car.


Yep Antonello, that's correct.
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Posted 2016-04-28 10:11 AM (#510406 - in reply to #469368)
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Here is the spacer on my new 300F. Has one on each side. Looks to be made out of pot metal like the grille.




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Posted 2016-04-28 11:15 AM (#510414 - in reply to #469368)
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That's surely is better - that way the frame don't break or warps...

Thanks' Nick
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Posted 2016-04-28 12:29 PM (#510420 - in reply to #510414)
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wizard - 2016-04-28 8:15 AM

That's surely is better - that way the frame don't break or warps...

Thanks' Nick


Yes, and easy to replicate with some aluminum rod. I wonder how often they break and fall out? My old car was a pile of rust everything outside was pretty rotten.
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Posted 2016-04-30 6:47 AM (#510526 - in reply to #510406)
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NicksGarage - 2016-04-27 4:11 PM Here is the spacer on my new 300F. Has one on each side. Looks to be made out of pot metal like the grille.

 

It looks wonderful. I don't know if these spacers were from Chrysler. I didn't find them in the parts catalog.

 

In the meantime I disassembled the grille. It's possible to miggy-weld the slot at the bottom of the frame. But then I would build an assisting frame to bend the original frame back to it's original shape. It's because front end of my Letter looks like it apparently was hitted once at the front, rh side.

From JcParts it looks like I gonna get an ornament. More later on.

 

Happy Restoring!

 

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Posted 2016-04-30 10:38 AM (#510537 - in reply to #469368)
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Glad JC Auto was able to help you with the trunk lid ornament. Every time I called someone for parts I asked about it for you.

Unfortunately the parts book doesn't always show every part for the 300F since it was a late intro. I wonder if that spacer was a running change. Surprising that your car and my old one didn't have them. Maybe I'll post a question on the 300 mailing list to do a survey.
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Posted 2016-04-30 3:34 PM (#510554 - in reply to #469368)
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I assume there was a change during the livecylce of the 300F production. I'm sure my Letter was an early bird at the production line. So it could be that the staff had to improvise some solutions.

Today I was working at my Letter again for some hours. I tried to loosen the emergency cable at the handle mechanism. But the nut is frozen as well so I cleaned the thread with a steel wire brush and applied penetrating oil. When I looked upwards at the windshield I discovered a crack in the outer glass of the windshield compound. This crack is quite new and was not present few weeks ago. But at least I could destroy the windshield now to save the windshield weatherstrip. At that weatherstrip I discovered a lip inside at the A pillar near the corners routed down to the corners. I think no reproduction weatherstrip would carry this lip.

I removed the front license plate and noticed that the year 63 is stamped in where the stickers were mounted at the rear license plate. At the rear license plate is a sticker of 1973 and at the other upper corner 1974. At least the rear sticker were applied when Mr. Fred Schafer was the owner of my Letter.

 

I also applied penetrating oil to the push button mechanism. Now the push buttons are working with ease and don't stick anymore.



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Posted 2016-04-30 4:57 PM (#510559 - in reply to #469368)
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California made everyone change their license plates in 1963-64. That was the last year that the state made us change plates. They change during 1970 to the blue plate with yellow characters. The year sticker was supposed to be put on the rear only on the side with the 63 stamp but people did put them in the wrong place at times. Commercial trucks have them on the front plates now but don't know if they did that then. There is no 1963 sticker since it was stamped into the plate.

The state is offering the black plates again and that is what I have on my car. They would have had the correct yellow/black plates if they had gotten enough pre-orders but they didn't. Same with the later blue plates.

I posted the grille question on the 300 mailing list and so far one person came back and said they have the spacers.

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Posted 2016-05-01 8:24 AM (#510590 - in reply to #469368)
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Thanks a lot for your explanation Nick.

 

Today I worked a  little at my Letter. I tried to remove the chromed frame around the license plate at the body. Unfortunatley the RH side is sticking because the vertical metal sheet is higher at the RH side than at the LH side of the opening (license plate and filler neck). I removed most of the RH chrome moulding.

To remove the chrome trim around the opening I assume first I have to remove the rear bumper...

Then I checked the lilfters. Two of 16 lifters were sized due to rust. I applied Diesel to try to free them. Today I noticed that one of the sized lifters is free now (:-). So I think it's just a matter of time until all lifters are free.

Happy Restoring!

 

Dieter

 

BTW: I peeled off the broken layer of an unprofessional repair of a parking accident, last picture shows the state after the removal of the layer.



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