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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-04-25 8:39 AM (#597320 - in reply to #469368)
Subject: RE: another 1960 Chrysler appeared



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This morning I met my Letter in the paint booth of the body&paint company. All over marker paint applied.

On several places there revealed rusting through holes, but I got evidence that my Letter was absolutely rustfree prior to apply the primer coat (20 kg, 44 lbs). All dents were pulled out prior to the sand blasting. The body is now straight.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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Beltran
Posted 2020-04-25 1:44 PM (#597327 - in reply to #469368)
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So what are we looking at here Dieter? I see gloss white inside and primer outside? Is this in between sprays of the gloss white? Those rear corners look great from this view. It seems like they put lots of hours into getting that corrected.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-04-26 2:14 AM (#597341 - in reply to #597327)
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Beltran - 2020-04-24 7:44 PM So what are we looking at here Dieter? I see gloss white inside and primer outside? Is this in between sprays of the gloss white? Those rear corners look great from this view. It seems like they put lots of hours into getting that corrected.

Thanks Mark

The drivers side corner is almost done. A small difference on the inner side of the fins will be corrected. The passenger side opening for the tail light is perfect. The drivers side opening has a small flat area to correct at the inside to the trunk opening.

To reveal... except of the undercarriage (already sand blasted and coated with charcoal grey color) the whole body outside and inside was sand blasted. Within a very, very short time between sand blasting (one apprentice of the body&paint shop assisted to vac clean the whole body from the sand), and applying the primer, the primer was applied (inside and outside of course). Even the inside of the roof and the underside of the parcel shell were sand blasted and coated with new primer.

Because the professional sand blaster used a very fine sand to sand blast, the result with primer is glossy.

I made a collection of 18 pictures where very small rusting through spots revealed. In my opinion it's too much to display here. From the boss of the body&paint shop I'll get a broad collection of pictures (plus a small movie) taken during the sand blasting. This is the evidence the whole process was done very carefully. Next work at the sand blasting company is to sand blast the trunk lid and small parts of the rear bumper mountings.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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sermey
Posted 2020-04-26 3:03 PM (#597363 - in reply to #597320)
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This rear view is pompous, Dieter. Could be a Convertible!  - SERGE -

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-04-28 2:12 PM (#597469 - in reply to #597363)
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sermey - 2020-04-25 9:03 PM

This rear view is pompous, Dieter. Could be a Convertible!  - SERGE -

Thanks Serge

It's a hardtop coupe. I'm happy with the steel roof. The convertible has different hinges for the trunk lid and reinforcements between the sheet metal between the front end of the trunk opening and the attachement of the end of the soft top.

Kind regards

Dieter



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22mafeja
Posted 2020-04-29 2:51 AM (#597493 - in reply to #469368)
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Well Dieter , now it is starting to look very promising. Hope your nightmare stages of the resto is over..
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-01 7:07 AM (#597576 - in reply to #597493)
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22mafeja - 2020-04-28 8:51 AM Well Dieter , now it is starting to look very promising. Hope your nightmare stages of the resto is over..

Hi Ralf

It's not over, just getting worse. Because I'm all on my own to finance this adventure. From the environment here I live most people just giving me the advice to quit my hobby instead of to be solidarity in finacial ways. The solidarity is a one way from me to all others.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-02 2:31 PM (#597649 - in reply to #469368)
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I decided to close the screw holes for the mouting of the remote push button for the seek function of the radio. As far as I remember, this push button was not connected to the wiring harness. I assisted the boss of the paint&body shop to mount a roof spoiler on hid Lancer Evo under build up again (after getting a full body restoration with a new color). When he has finished his own project he'll start on my Letter. Furthermor I brought a really big USB-stick to him. I'm getting a full documentation on pictures...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-09 8:51 AM (#597985 - in reply to #469368)
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I got a vast collection of pictures from the body shop and the sand blasting. Only a few I'm displaying here.

One questing rose about the parcel shelf. In my opinion it should be flat table. But here I want to make it sure.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-09 1:43 PM (#597996 - in reply to #469368)
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Update: I googled through my broad collection of pictures and got out, that the parcel shelf was flat (like a table on the upper side) until it was at the farmer smith shop. It will turn to flat soon.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-10 3:43 AM (#598032 - in reply to #469368)
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some more pictures





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-16 9:41 AM (#598354 - in reply to #469368)
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Today a short visit at the body&paint shop. The surface preparation process has begun at the firewall of the body. Two apprentices are working on Saturday and overtime to work from the front to the back. The outer shell the boss will do himself. Preparation of the deck lid (getting out small dents) has started as well. Soon the deck lid and the rear bumper mountings will go to the sand blaster.

The parcel shell is flat again.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: no new pictures today



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-22 8:20 AM (#598619 - in reply to #469368)
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This day I went to the body&paint shop again. Since the pandemic shut down has released to a certain degree, the shop is flooded again with courant normale (work on contemporary cars). I could take some picutures...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-23 1:27 PM (#598681 - in reply to #597576)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2020-04-30 1:07 PM

22mafeja - 2020-04-28 8:51 AM Well Dieter , now it is starting to look very promising. Hope your nightmare stages of the resto is over..

Hi Ralf

It's not over, just getting worse. Because I'm all on my own to finance this adventure. From the environment here I live most people just giving me the advice to quit my hobby instead of to be solidarity in finacial ways. The solidarity is a one way from me to all others.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

It's not exact what I wrote...

I have help from two muslim, living in Switzerland, and the two apprentices who are working overtime. Not from my family, my relatives, not from people who are claiming to be my friend, not from members here nor any who claims to be a Christ, an Atheist or not defined.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-05-30 2:34 PM (#598996 - in reply to #469368)
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I'm getting another half year delay on the body. The shut down of Corona is releasing now, due to a very low ciffre of new cases. So the body&paint shop got flooded with work. One apprentice is in the hospital (accute appendicitis). The best on this scenario is - I got more time to save money. For the engine I'll keep the agreed time stamp for the delivery of the turn key ready engine /w power print out and test sheet. I still have the engine assembly stand.

For sure I'll find guys locally to mount the engine/trans combo into my Letter when it's ready.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: right now I'm on a good way to finance the adventure.

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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-05-30 8:23 PM (#599014 - in reply to #469368)
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darn dude I do all my own work an I might catch you! I'm running fuel lines and brake lines. About to do my wiring, but my bodywork is mostly done.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-06-30 11:48 AM (#600342 - in reply to #469368)
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Because of no work with my dump truck yesterday and today, I went to the body&paint shop. All the parts (there are a lot) from the front end are down in the shop again (stored on the first floor above). The shop owner prepared the trunk lid to dig out even the slightest imperfection (dent) prior to bring it the the sand blaster as well. He repaired a big dent in the shield below the radiator yoke and the apprentices are working on the battery tray, the vertical bar and more.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-07-04 7:31 AM (#600486 - in reply to #469368)
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some new pictures...

The pittings on the inner fender will be cured as well...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





(IMG_7532 front end parts overview.JPG)



(IMG_7533 rad yoke and splash shield.JPG)



(IMG_7534 splash shield had a big dent.JPG)



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-07-28 1:22 PM (#601426 - in reply to #469368)
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The inner parts are covered with a layer of primer again. Originally from the sand blaster company the parts came with a layer thickness of 200 micron. At the body & paint shop they shaved off at least 100 micron to get a normal layer thickness. The result will be a very fine surface to get a pleasure when fondling the surface that will last for a very, very long time.

Today I went to the engine restoration shop. The point the engine builder brought up is still to discuss... a) me I'm going to install the engine, but the Letter has to go to the engine builder, because he's turning the ignition key, or b) key ready engine. Either way... we'll see what's the output of the restored engine (back in the days up to about 1970 brutto engine power was measured, nowadays netto power (/w alternator, water pump, air filters and exhaust system)).

I heard the whole story from the engine builder.... both down payments I did back in 2018 for the engine are NOT lost.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-08-15 11:13 AM (#602084 - in reply to #469368)
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The trunk lid and some small parts are back from the sand blaster and immediately covered with primer... Actually the boss of the body&paint shop is working on a 2019 BMW X3 M40d, very low odometer readings, where a person destroyed the hood, front fender, front door, rear door, rear quarter panel plus a rim at the drivers side. The bimmer body shop was working with no success....

Thinking at the engine.... because the engine builder resists to mention the final price of the rebuilt engine I do not see a coorperation anymore. I know two prices from the Chrysler 300 Club International (forum, where a member was complaining about the USD 12000.- price tag (key ready engine) while the builder offered USD 6000.-) and from Sweden.





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-09-12 7:57 AM (#603122 - in reply to #469368)
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Some little bit more progress at my Letter. I was discussing the jumping cracker noise on the passenger side rear floor section with the painter and body shop owner. Originall he didn't want to hurt the primer surface. But when I said, it's noticeable even with the sound/temperatue deadenng mat and the carpet installed, he agreed to use the plotter to get out the tension in that floor section.

During that investigation I looked under the Letter again and noticed the lock shmith shop just corrected the shape of the reinforcement bar instead of installing a new, reproduced one like announced.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-09-19 7:44 AM (#603323 - in reply to #469368)
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Some more progress at my Letter..

The surface of the roof is in work, also the C-pillars. The work on the weatherstrip surface and perimeter around the trunk opening are under work as well.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-09-27 4:16 AM (#603626 - in reply to #469368)
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The trunk opening perimeter (weatherstrip channel) is in work now. The whole passenger floor area will be on work with abrasive pads to get a surface where the metal bondo will be rest on for a long time. As far as there is visible on pictures there were many pin head sized rusting trough holes visible after sand blasting and applying high quality primer. According to the body and paint shop owner, the body of my Letter would last as it will be for at least 60 years.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-10-10 7:27 AM (#604274 - in reply to #469368)
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The trunk surrounding is raw finished. The work on he lower rear window body lip (where the rear window weatherstrip sits) started. What I noticed... the drivers side rear fender sits at the reinforcement now like on the passenger side. The torture was, that the Letter got two accidents at the drivers side rear. After the first accident apparently the drivers side rear fender has been replaced (not very precise).

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

 





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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-10-10 10:36 AM (#604277 - in reply to #469368)
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that is a pain in the ass....
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-10-11 3:03 AM (#604308 - in reply to #604277)
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mikes2nd - 2020-10-09 4:36 PM that is a pain in the ass....

For sure, yes

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-10-17 7:45 AM (#604554 - in reply to #469368)
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The apprecntice (the older one) started at the front weatherstrip channel of the trunk opening. First of all the first layer and partially the second layer applied to dry out over weekend.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-10-27 2:45 PM (#604971 - in reply to #469368)
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This afternoon I visited the body&paint shop again. At the front door the sign "only enter with wearing the protection mask ". So I wore one. There is some progress at the body...

Bad news from the boss of the shop... both apprentices are now in quarantine - so he's working all alone now for some time. I hope and wish to the joungsters that they will be tested negative or at least do not suffer badly and will get a full recovery fast with no late disability.

Happy Restoring

Dieter





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(IMG_7987 drivers side wing and c pillar.JPG)



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-10-31 9:01 AM (#605111 - in reply to #469368)
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Good luck for the two apprentices. They got both a Negative test result. In the mean time in the shop, last time I discovered a BMW M3 -V8 (E92) with a front damage from a hit on to the car in the front of that.

Now the front end has been disassembled. The parts laying on the front of my Letter will cost between 8k and 10k CHF. Until that car is finished... the total costs will be close to 20k CHF - ways too much for a guy that has really no money... (enough off topic)

Next week the apprentices should start working again in the shop. I hope next Saturday I could provide some progress.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-02 4:36 AM (#605203 - in reply to #469368)
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Yesterday evening I called my Boss to ask for work for today. His answer was "Dear Dieter, you could do what you want." So I took the oportunity to visit the engine builders shop - of course with a nose/mouth-mask.

At the table I noticed the piston/connection-set of 8 pistons. Ross forged pistons, 0.060 oversized, slightly higher compression ratio. This set came out of a rebuilt 413 engine with a heavy crack in the engine block after the first drive on the road. That engine is slightly younger than mine, with a weaker engine block and the later style crankshaft. Because that engine was for sale many years ago I assume the engine builder could bargain the seller. The engine should be ready early/mid January 2021. Now I know the costs frame for the engine as well.

Happy Restoring

Dieter



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-03 1:32 PM (#605278 - in reply to #469368)
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The older apprentice is on duty again now. He gets some hints from the boss. The side walls the boss does it himself.

The drivers side gets slightly more filler, because the drivers side rear fender once has been replaced and not mounted as precise as from the factory...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



Edited by di_ch_NY56 2020-11-03 1:35 PM




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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-07 8:42 AM (#605387 - in reply to #469368)
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Apparently some very weak areas went away during sand blasting. Following pictures are displaying evidence.

How should the transition of the C pillar to the rear fenders look like original? How is the transition sealed? To restore the inner lower ends of the C pillar, weld in additional steel sheets is almost impossible. I'll appreciate your hints very much. Thank you.

The rotted away transition from the rain channel to the A pillar is like peanuts compared to the C pillars...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





(IMG_8012 C pillar front sight missing metal passenger side.JPG)



(IMG_8013 C pillar front sight missing metal drivres side.JPG)



(IMG_8014 C pillar front sight with a straight reference passenger side.JPG)



(IMG_8015 C pillar front sight with a straight reference drivers side.JPG)



(IMG_8016 A pillar to roof transition passenger side rotted away front view.JPG)



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(IMG_8019 A pillar to roof transition passenger side rotted away rear view.JPG)



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22mafeja
Posted 2020-11-07 3:55 PM (#605391 - in reply to #605387)
Subject: RE: another 1960 Chrysler appeared


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Hello Dieter , I get really upset when I see there is put bondo on the c pillar area which really needs a professional bodywork guy first. The right guy just starts to do the job and ends when it is done ,
you shouldn`t have to tell him how! Those corners are filled with some bitumen compound or something from the factory but any polyuretane compound is fine. I don`t see any damage on the a pillars..
Are you sure your car is at the right shop, I think it is getting forward very slowly..hope you pay every two weeks or so...hope I have the wrong feeling...
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-08 2:37 AM (#605407 - in reply to #469368)
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On the passenger side the rear fender bondo thickness is very minor around the C pillar. Just to fill up small imperfections. The drivers side is another story. Still visible at the vertical piece of the drivers side rear fender. This fender once was replaced without prior structural correction at the rear wall. This fender was not mounted as precise as it was from the factory. The C pillars at the roof are almost free from bondo.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-14 10:08 AM (#605640 - in reply to #469368)
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The open areas of the working area are protected now with primer. I discussed the further procedure at the rear end of the body. The drivers side rear lip of the trunk opening needs some more work, but can only be performed when the trunk lid is mounted. Still evidence of the more than weak work of the farmers smith shop. In the meantime I notice every imperfection on car and truck bodys.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



Edited by di_ch_NY56 2020-11-14 10:10 AM




(IMG_8035 passenger side rear fender view.JPG)



(IMG_8036 rear end view of the trunk.JPG)



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-21 7:49 AM (#605861 - in reply to #469368)
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some more progress...

Sunny clear... ugly welding from the farmer smith shop needs a little bit more bondo...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



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(IMG_8055 passenger side rear quarter panel low section.JPG)



(IMG_8056 passenger side rear wheel well and rocker panel.JPG)



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-21 1:49 PM (#605890 - in reply to #469368)
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Interesting detail about the carpet when I disassembled my Letter...

After I removed the 300 F heel pad, the common heel pad in the carpet appeared. The carpet goes over the propeller shaft tunnel as in any other 1960 Chrysler cars. The only difference are about four or six square holes in the carpet (as well as the isolation mat) where the fully length middle console with two arm rests meets the floor to screw it down.

The old carpet I kept to use it as a template. But I can stick with a regular 1960 New Yorker carpet in color black.

Because I would like to stick with the flocked and pressed textile isolation mat (not with Dynamat isolation mats as some others were or are installing), I have to seek for new mats locally. Thickness between 10 mills and 1/2 inch.

Happy Restoring

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-11-27 8:43 AM (#606092 - in reply to #469368)
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This morning I visited the Body&Paint-Shop once again. to my surprise the boss was working on my Letter this early morning. The older apprentice has to seek a  new way. He didn't do what the boss wanted and got nasty many times until the boss said - there is the door. The younger apprentice (the younger one with more hearth blood in his work) is on a job training outside the company. So I assisted the boss in the paint booth to pack in the BMW 5 to get the horizontal surface of the trunk lid painted with absolutely no spray dust somewhere on the body. He explainded the the whole outside surface will be staightened. Then after the filler layer (with the spay gun as I understud) first the inside of the passenger compartment will be painted. After that the body shell from the roof down including the firewall. Today first time I heard the amount aiming to. It's less than I expected, sand blasting included. But I do not communicate of how much.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW the filler will be sanded down again, to get out the smallest imperfections. At the picture near the end of the fin a new layer was appliled. That will be sanded down. I imagine, if anybody would check with a paint thickness meter, he will measure nowhere more than a few tenth of a millimeter.





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Posted 2020-11-28 10:39 AM (#606129 - in reply to #469368)
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This afternoon for few hours I worked for parts at my Letter. I cleaned the addhesive area of the dashboard again with the wire brush. Then I assembled the three parts (dashboard, lid and black insert). The red circle in the relating picture rises a question: what size of screw is there (flat countersunk i assume)?

I picked the short fuel line, that is in the subframe. I cleaned it, even the holder and the screw. The fuel line is absolutely free - to my surprise in the steel fuel lines there was still fuel in it during the disassemblage.

I appreciate your answer highly. Big thank you in advance.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: the dashboard goes to the body&paint shop after the Letter is finished there. I assume it'll get a sandblast as well and for sure a painting again in the same colors.



Edited by di_ch_NY56 2020-11-28 10:43 AM




(IMG_8071 dashboard instrument recession.JPG)



(IMG_8072 dashboard top view.JPG)



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Posted 2020-11-29 9:33 AM (#606153 - in reply to #606129)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2020-11-27 4:39 PM

This afternoon for few hours I worked for parts at my Letter. I cleaned the addhesive area of the dashboard again with the wire brush. Then I assembled the three parts (dashboard, lid and black insert). The red circle in the relating picture rises a question: what size of screw is there (flat countersunk i assume)?

I picked the short fuel line, that is in the subframe. I cleaned it, even the holder and the screw. The fuel line is absolutely free - to my surprise in the steel fuel lines there was still fuel in it during the disassemblage.

I appreciate your answer highly. Big thank you in advance.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: the dashboard goes to the body&paint shop after the Letter is finished there. I assume it'll get a sandblast as well and for sure a painting again in the same colors.

 

The size of the screw I got out. Thanks a lot.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-02 9:21 AM (#606264 - in reply to #469368)
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I started with applying once more Gummi-Pflegestift at the windshield and rear window rubber. On both weatherstrips the side pointing to the passenger compartment is clean and looks like new. The side to the outside needs more cleaning, most probably with water and soap. At the rear window rubber I started with removing the additional sealer. There is only sealer used at the body side, not at the window side. Removing the cement is a very, very time consuming job.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-05 7:49 AM (#606398 - in reply to #469368)
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Both B posts of the side doors show a clear difference between the passenger side (original rear fender) and the drivers side. For everybody who believed I'm telling BS about the drivers side rear fender...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





(IMG_8108 B post top passenger door.JPG)



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22mafeja
Posted 2020-12-05 3:56 PM (#606419 - in reply to #606398)
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The rh quarter panel is as from the factory...the lh is not...it has been mig welded imo. It has either been replaced or adjusted.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-07 3:48 AM (#606486 - in reply to #606419)
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22mafeja - 2020-12-04 9:56 PM The rh quarter panel is as from the factory...the lh is not...it has been mig welded imo. It has either been replaced or adjusted.

Hi Ralf

Thank you very much for your confirmation. It's what I'm trying to tell since a long time. For sure the LH rear fender once (long ago) has been replaced without correcting the structure damage as commaned in the factory service manual. It's the very first car I'm restoring. I had big pressure to dissassemble it very quick as soon as it was in the barn (summer hot like hell, winter freezing cold). If ever I would restore another car first I would check what would fit. From the pictures prior to purchase and the first appearance at  me, the drivers side stainless steel molding I assume was never mounted again since the replacement of the drivers side rear fender. The 300 F ornament on the drivers side looks pretty like new. There were double holes in the fender for the ornament carrier that gave a hint of what happened. The molding bows (three dimensional) the the rear vertical stainless steel moldings to conjunct the frame around the filler tube of the fuel tank recession apparently were replaced (the bows are identical (except they are mirrored for RH and LH application).

Kind regards

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-07 3:55 AM (#606487 - in reply to #469368)
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The last few free days (weather condition and Covid-19 slow down of building investments) I did "nurse" and clean the rear window and the windshield weatherstrip. Good luck I got the hint to purchase "Gummipflege".

On both weatherstrips the side pointing to the passenger compartment are looking like new again. On the outside there is loads of accumulated dust and dirt. Below a "new" used looking surface appears, excpt on some top area, where the rubber started to disintegrate (like cancer pop ups).

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: Please do not present a bottle of wine as a present - I do not drink wine.





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-12 6:53 AM (#606635 - in reply to #469368)
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On the rear window weatherstrip there are three sectors where the rubber was not mounted with care to the lip of the body opening for the rear window. These three sectors the rubber doesn't spring back, even though the rubber is soft like new again.

Hints?

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: Hint except carfully mounting.. Thanks



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Posted 2020-12-13 5:37 AM (#606669 - in reply to #469368)
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It's a trial. Will see if it works to fold back the inner lip and open the body channel.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-26 9:52 AM (#607136 - in reply to #469368)
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Because on Dec. 21st I had an accident while working in my garden, only small works performed for my Letter.

I cleanded the big connectors and the trunk light/dome light wiring connectors. Following day I cleaned the big connectors (body and directional signal swich) on the bigger wiring harness. I repaired the trunk light socket (the contacts were flying away while removing the bulb) with a new s29 socket, from which I took the contacts. The trunk light works again (checked with voltage and bulb). The back up light sockets will be replaced while completely rusted.

Today I cleaned the buttons of the transmission and the heater system. For sure, there are nicer bezels than mine. To bring it up to concours level several weenkends of work will follow (after removing the chrome surface).

Happy Restoring!

Ddieter





(IMG_8178 rear wiring harness.JPG)



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-28 9:47 AM (#607204 - in reply to #469368)
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This early afternoon I cleaned the bezel around the trans push buttons. The procedure how to get out all corrosion craters I know (chemically removing the chrome, one copper layer, then mill out all little craters, fill it with solder tin, shave and polishe the bezel, one more copper layer and finally the chrome layer).

But I assume first (when the body is back) installing the wiring harness and preliminary the dash board to install the ignition switch and the transmission gear selector. I'll cover the floor with a thick wool blanket to protect it.

from this morning on, the first part of the (cleaned, coated with a thin coat of grease) fuel line (inside the subrame) is installed and closed at the output end.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2020-12-30 9:21 AM (#607258 - in reply to #469368)
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The fuse holder is cleaned and the mounting straps painted. The contacts I cleanded mechanically. The box I cleaned with a slightly humid paper towel to prevent creeping current. The pivot point at the firewall is cleaned and got the first coat of 1k rust converting primer. I guess I'll paint it gloss black.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: the stack of parts waiting to be installed gets bigger and bigger.

BTW2: all fuses getting in very easy now, the transition resistance over two contacts is below 0.1 Ohms.



Edited by di_ch_NY56 2020-12-30 9:25 AM




(IMG_8216 fuse holder cleaned and holding straps painted.JPG)



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