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hemidenis
Posted 2015-02-19 10:43 PM (#470508)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrysler-300-Series-300G-/301533773017
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Posted 2015-02-20 3:59 PM (#470543 - in reply to #470508)
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And... .yet another one turns up out of the woodwork!
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ttotired
Posted 2015-02-20 5:17 PM (#470551 - in reply to #470508)
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It looks pretty much gone

The floor rust, though fixable, is extensive (not good on a unibody car), even the engine stuff looks like its been sitting in a swamp

To me, this is worth the sum of the parts, but parts that are most likely not to good

I have a number in my head, but I think it will exceed that just because of the badge on its side

Is the thing circled actually a part of the car?

It looks like an air injection or something from the early 70s smog era engines?





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1960fury
Posted 2015-02-20 6:10 PM (#470554 - in reply to #470551)
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ttotired - 2015-02-20 5:17 PM

It looks pretty much gone

The floor rust, though fixable, is extensive (not good on a unibody car),


the floors do very little for stability. its the hump, rockers and roof. you can cut all the floors out of a 60 mopar unibody car and you are not going to see more body flex. my 61 desoto was allot worse than this, rocker rust too, no noticeable body flex.
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finsruskw
Posted 2015-02-20 9:53 PM (#470562 - in reply to #470554)
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No, that's not for that Chrysler or any Chrysler of that vintage that I know of.
About the only thing worth decent $$ there in that picture are the exhaust manifolds and maybe the P/S pump, A/C comp and starter.
Not counting the rams carbs and air cleaners.

I did pull up the ad and look at the rest of the pictures. It appears this is a new find for the 300 Club roster. Amazing, after all these years these things still pop up from time to time.

I sure hope some one can do something with it. There were only 1280 of these built, 14 of which were for export.
At least it isn't white!!

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Sportsman
Posted 2015-02-21 7:38 PM (#470620 - in reply to #470508)
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That is exactly what that set-up is, an A.I.R. system, possibly GM from the dark days of the mid-70s. The front section of the system looks exactly like the one on the 500 in my '76 Cadillac. A square peg for round holes in this puzzle. This is at least the 4th 300G "barn find" I have seen turn up in the last week, not counting a non-letter 300 with a 3-speed stick that was nearby.
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-03-01 6:27 AM (#471276 - in reply to #470508)
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Well acutally it went for the sum of its parts. Hub caps, astradome speedo, intake and exhaust, power windows,7-putton radio... those only could be worth of 6,5 K cleaned. Then there is lots of trim, bucket seats, console even dashbad looked good. Hopefully it was not bought for parts and went to Sweden
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-03-01 6:38 AM (#471278 - in reply to #470554)
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the floors do very little for stability. its the hump, rockers and roof. you can cut all the floors out of a 60 mopar unibody car and you are not going to see more body flex. my 61 desoto was allot worse than this, rocker rust too, no noticeable body flex.


Agree. but in this case floor has to be taken from long wheelbase 60-61 Mopar wich means New Yorker, if you want change whole floor as one unit.

Here is pic of my 300 G in rotisserie. I recommend everybody to use it in total resoration. it so easy and fast to work and you get everything done with high quality.



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finsruskw
Posted 2015-03-01 10:44 AM (#471294 - in reply to #470508)
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Something, 58-9-60 IIRC had an air suspension set up. I just remembered a cly head I have that the parts book ID'd as being for a car w/air suspension.
That may be what that pump is from, probably has extra holes in it for mounting it.

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hemidenis
Posted 2015-03-01 12:24 PM (#471307 - in reply to #470508)
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Good luck restoring the car....With 300G hardtops selling at 60K range, it is no way in the world you can get this car restored for that kind of money, luckily it is always somebody dreaming far enough to believe that 10K can do it Theses dreamers are saving cars from the crusher, but car like this go over 2 or 3 owners before get restored.

















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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-03-01 5:06 PM (#471329 - in reply to #470508)
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Denis, yes there are ways and money is not only option. This car has lots of donors to sacrafice. I quess no one is dreming to do it for 10 or 20K.
Anyway there is no huge profit coming out of this G you're right about it, but many avarage John or Swen do not have 60K in a pocket,
but they may have 6,5 or 20K and they earn more every month.
Also they want a build their own cars as a hobby and take challenges, improve their skills as a car restorer and get the respect of other car guys.
Nor the total costs is important, this is hobby, not business. People even restore 4D sedans if they want to.
Here in Skandinavia those auto enthusiasts who restore their own cars are highly appriciated not those who have a thick wallet and buy their cars from Barret&Jackson.
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ttotired
Posted 2015-03-01 6:37 PM (#471342 - in reply to #470508)
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Same here in Aus

Its nice to have a professionally restored car and polish it every weekend, but to have one that you have spent many hundreds of hours fixing yourself and working hard to pay for is what its all about (to me)

Its much more fun to talk to a person that restored their car themselves about their car than it is to talk to a cheque book hot rodder that might know a few facts and figures (normally costs), but doesnt know how this bit or that bit fitted in or how this bit or that bit goes together

On the other hand though

Not everyone has the skills and/or aptitude to be able to weld out rust or build an engine ect, but what they can do is work their back sides off and save like heck to afford to pay for one of these things thats been built or can be built for them

Not sure that one really outweighs the other, but I know personally, that I will enjoy (cherish) a car that I have bled on more than one I payed for

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hemidenis
Posted 2015-03-01 9:43 PM (#471353 - in reply to #470508)
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You guys are barking up the wrong tree here, I don't know any guy who is restoring those less desirable four door sedans overseas, who is spending way more than the car is worth. Who in their right mind, money wise, will spend around 7K restoring the most expensive engine around?, which is the 392 Hemi, exporting every piece of it including a crankshaft, connecting rods and so forth? Well as I said I don't know that guy, I'm the guy. Out of pure love for the car, with out thinking of money, and did all the job myself.




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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-03-02 5:02 AM (#471387 - in reply to #471353)
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hemidenis - 2015-03-01 9:43 PM

You guys are barking up the wrong tree here, I don't know any guy who is restoring those less desirable four door sedans overseas, who is spending way more than the car is worth.


Well I do know. when there is no 300 letters cars around. Guys here build BelAirs,Fairlanes, Ramblers even Dodge Darts and Aspens. Sure they do not use tens of thousands for them in money becouse parts they use are worth of soap, but they use same amount of time, skills and passion for the Rambler as some other guy uses to Hemi Cuda.
Then we also have car culture in Skandinavia wich is hard to explain to outsiders. Car does'nt need (or must not) look like original or restored. It is enough that it runs, steers, brakes and passes inspection and its all for fun. Paint is usually black matt or surface rust, 4 door cars are converted to 2d or convertible (with out a top ofcouse). Kind of rat rod culture but it was born decades before it. People say that this people ruin their cars - I think they save them from crusher. But again, they also invest lot of time and effort to their junks, a way more than those are worth.
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Posted 2015-03-02 7:57 AM (#471392 - in reply to #470508)
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I think that Jari is right on the spot with his explanation of the car hobbyists in Scadinavia. Many times the work it self is the hobby and the result could have many different levels.
Also as Jari wrote, a lot of our colleagues in the hobby just don't have the amount of cash to spend on a car at one time - if they would, then perhaps a house or an appartment would be on the whishing list first of all. To renovate a basket case by themselfes will give satisfaction to the hobby and also leave some dough for the costs of life. In the car hooby there exsists all from the worst imaginable beer barges to cars of a standard the factories never reached (just see Jaris work with the door gaps, confirmed by the maestro Jan).

Then, I "know" Denis as well and he really goes through a lot for to renovate the cars of his dreams.

Love is another key word; if you really wanted and waited for just the right car - then you go through a lot for to live the Dream.

Let's keep up the good work - it saved me from sport
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-03-03 4:23 AM (#471465 - in reply to #470508)
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Now when im thinking this closer, actually our carages are our mancaves. When i visit my car hobbyist pals I visit their garages not their houses. Just realized I do know how their living rooms are but i know exactly their garages where we drink beers and watch games if not working with cars. If you do not have a own garage you have joined with other club members maybe and rented a 5 or 10 cars garage together and split the costs. We got loong dark winter and garage season starts in october and lasts still next spring, late april maybe. Thats a secret I quess, you gotta have projects for winters you cant just hang in there, you live from project to another I always look forward the spring and first carshows and car meets to see what new guys has finished durnig the winter.
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-03-03 4:26 AM (#471466 - in reply to #470508)
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Denis, your project is looking really good!
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Posted 2015-03-03 6:24 AM (#471471 - in reply to #470508)
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You Boys are sick, SICK!

The mates/sheds lifestyle seems to have an almost universal following, we do the same here in Australia.

Maybe it is our generation, (and probably the 2 or 3 preceding generations), but I have to say it is surprising that so many different country's and cultures have a group of men who follow this road.

I guess there are variations, like the loners who put their special cars in a shed and lock everyone else out!

For me it is even weirder, as I was not influenced by any of my role models to love cars, it just came naturally!

Steve.
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hemidenis
Posted 2015-03-11 10:01 PM (#472266 - in reply to #470508)
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Txs guys!



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