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Powerflite
Posted 2015-03-02 10:47 AM (#471403)
Subject: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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I noticed that Steele rubber has a windshield gasket for the '56 Plymouth now. But I see 3 different parts for the sedan. The 70-2300-50 is for cars without any molding so that one is obvious, but does anyone know what application the 70-1880-50 vs. the 70-1864-50 are used for? I gave them a call, but they weren't very helpful. I know I could remove all my trim to figure it out, but I wondered if anyone here knows first.
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DepsilonD
Posted 2015-03-02 1:50 PM (#471416 - in reply to #471403)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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Can't help you on this one Powerflite, but I do need to know the answer myself.

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GaryS
Posted 2015-03-02 5:12 PM (#471425 - in reply to #471403)
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I can't help either. I ordered 70-3038-81 for my 2-door hardtop, and it looks right when compared to the old one, but I don't know what the sedan differences might be. You would think there would be one for trim, and one for bare gasket. Too bad Gary Goers doesn't take calls, as I'm sure he knows.
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hoodinki
Posted 2015-03-02 5:52 PM (#471429 - in reply to #471403)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket


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The Steele Rubber windshield gaskets are being sold by them on Amazon.

The convertible and hardtop windshields are one inch shorter in height than the post cars, e.g., the sedans and wagons.

The Steele 70-1880-50 replaces Mopar 1645943 and fitment is for 55-56 Plymouth/Dodge wagons, sedans, and 2-door club coupe (with post). $162.10

The Steele 70-1864-50 replaces Mopar 1645941 and fitment is for 55-56 Plymouth/Dodge wagons, sedans, and 2-door club coupe (with post). $166.90
Comes with correct depth slot for reveal molding.

The Steele 70-3038-81 fits ONLY the rear window of the 55-56 Plymouth 2-door hardtop. Mopar 1592520

The Steele 70-2300-50 fits the 55-56 Dodge/Plymouth sedans/wagons WITHOUT the reveal molding and is unusual. (Most had the moldings.)

The Steele 40-0486-50 fits 55-56 Plymouth/Dodge 2-door hardtops and convertibles, and 56 Fury, and replaces Mopar 1579972. $154.80

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DepsilonD
Posted 2015-03-02 6:45 PM (#471436 - in reply to #471403)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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Thank you hoodinki! I figured you would have the answer.
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Powerflite
Posted 2015-03-02 10:30 PM (#471450 - in reply to #471429)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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I am still confused. So the 1880 has the wrong depth slot for the reveal molding? Then what is it good for?
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hoodinki
Posted 2015-03-02 11:43 PM (#471452 - in reply to #471403)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket


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Compare the drawing for (Steele Rubber Products 70-1880-50.jpg) to the one for (Steele Rubber Products 70-1864-50.jpg). Notice the lips for the moldings are in different sectors of the windshield? (the lips for the moldings are at 2 o'clock in the gasket profiles.)
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Powerflite
Posted 2016-03-21 9:07 PM (#507538 - in reply to #471452)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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So I have measured my old gasket and removed the trim on the inside so I could see what I have. My gasket is 13" on the sides as measured from the inside, roughly 58" along the top, and 73" along the bottom. That eliminates 1880. It has the wrong proportions. I also noticed on my car that the rubber is flat along the bottom on the inside and bulged on the sides and top. It doesn't seem that the bulge is useful for anything on the inside, but that is the way it is. I also have trim that locks into the rubber around the full perimeter on the outside, not just on the sides & top. And... Steele Rubber has now posted a technical description of what the 2300 gasket looks like beyond just saying that it was for no molding inserts. And guess what, it has molding locks all around it just like I need and the inside matches the look of the inside of the gasket too. So the 2300 gasket that previously looked to be completely wrong, now looks perfectly right. I guess I will purchase that one.

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Powerflite
Posted 2016-03-21 9:10 PM (#507540 - in reply to #507538)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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Also, what is strange is that the hardtop windshield is 1" shorter, but the 0486 hardtop gasket is shown as 4" taller? But I think the discrepancy is that they are measuring that one all the way around the corner to that line that they have drawn on the bottom side of the gasket. Also, the 1880 sedan gasket has the same proportions, in fact, is almost completely identical to the 0486 hardtop gasket. This is really confusing.

Edited by Powerflite 2016-03-21 9:24 PM
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DepsilonD
Posted 2016-03-24 5:11 PM (#507839 - in reply to #471403)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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Nathan . . . it is super confusing . . . . and I will say that the gasket that I picked up from Steel just fit OK (2 door hardtop, don't recall the #). I also replaced the original the windshield with a new one from Pilkington Classics, so some of my fitment issues could of been from that. But neither the windshield (too much slack) or the trim, not enough slack fit very well. It will work for now, but I will probably give it another try at a latter time.
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Powerflite
Posted 2016-03-30 4:29 PM (#508330 - in reply to #507839)
Subject: Re: '56 Ply Windshield Gasket



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Going to give it another try from another source? Do you know of anyone else selling these that are fully molded?

I called them and related what I read about the dimensions of the 2300 gasket, and they told me that the drawing & dimensions don't belong to that gasket. I told them that the 1800 dimensions are the same as the hardtop, and he told me that one was wrong as well. The tech support guy told me that the 2300 has molding connections on the bottom only - not on the sides or top, the 1800 is made for an optional wide molding along the top of the windshield, and the 1864 is for the standard setup - regardless of what the website says. This makes me think I should wait for them to fix their website, but I have already waited a year from the last time I talked to them so I don't have my hopes up. It looks like I will have to trust him and take a chance on trial and error to get it figured out.
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DepsilonD
Posted 2016-03-30 4:34 PM (#508331 - in reply to #471403)
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Nope, no other source Nathan, but I didn't want to tear out the one they sent me to go back and forth with them on fitment (and risk the windshield getting busted). I am hoping it will be corrected by the time I eventually paint the Dodge and I will give the gasket another go. My other issues is that I was unsure whether the inner lip fitment was due to the gasket or if the replacement windshield was thinner than the original.

-Dave
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