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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146     Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| The vault as seen in photos appears to be single poured with sloping sides at the bottom (like a bathtub but not as severe). The lid as I have read is actually in three parts. This could be a problem if they were simply butted together end to end and not sealed or overlapped, I simply do not know. However, I read that the lids were sealed to the lower vault using thick tar on the lip of the vault or a tar like substance. If this stayed intact, then that is good news. Now I also saw in a video that they were spraying concrete even with the lid open. that is called (I believe Gunite? spraying) The lids had large metal rings in them that were used to lower them into place. Then all three lids were sprayed over with a thick layer of (Gunite?) Concrete. It must have survived as the crew responsible for digging up the Plymouth have already unearthed the top of the sprayed Gunite on the three lids and they had to chisle or jackhammer down several inches to find the rings for lifting the lids of which they did find them. Once this was done they resealed the Gunite covering and covered the earth back over the vault. This was done to preserve it until 3 days before the 15th of June, when they will actually restart to excavate down to the lids again and lift them off to remove the car on the 15th of june. They will take their time (three days to get it to the point where they can bring the car up on the 15th at the exact moment planned. Now as for the condition of the car. There are several factors to consider including the contents of the car. Many questions woudl have to be answered to be able to know what affect these things will have had on the car and the vault. The car was placed on a steel skid, however I do know the axles had jacks placed underneath them. I also think they had somethign between the steel skid and the car. The car was sealed in a COSMOLINE like substance if this is true and that is what it says, then the parts covered in cosmoline and not exposed, should be liek new. There is also some evidence that a huge plastic bag was manufactured to bury the car in and the air was sucked out of the bag. If this is true and there is some evidence of it, then barring total submergance and a tear in the bag. the car shoudl be pristine. However, was the fluids left in the car? if so they could have long ago damaged the engine or leaked out and ate thru the protective covering. I do know that photos show the car wrapped and tied in a covering. In car had a full tank of gas...varnish now? Also a large 10 gallon tank containing 10gals of gas and some oil in cans or jars? My guess is if no water got in and the vault is sealed the car is pristine. My bet is that if there is no submergance and the bag is still intact around the car.. it is in perfect condition. I'm betting it is PRISTINE. I hope documentary video is being made from start to finish as this is History!! I mean even video of the test digging done by the excavating crew. Someone should insist that this is atleast being filmed. MY BET IS PRISTINE!!   | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| Hi Azimuth, I agree with you. People were not that stupid in the 50's, they were able to make some good quality things. I believe some even better than today! (just look at the cars!! I'm sure a car from 2007 is quite worth- and useless in 2057 with all this cheap plastic and poor electronic circuits...) Of course they were able to make a concrete vault that lasts over 50 years without leaking water. Otherwise all cellars of buildings built before 1957 would be filled with water or all these buildings would collapse!  No way. These days people took more care in what they were doing, that's my guess. And they made fantastic cars!!!!!!!!  Mathieu (The Netherlands) | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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