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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-13 9:09 PM (#580837 - in reply to #580641)
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I changed the oil today. Having the flexible braided lines on the filter housing paid off when I was able to pour out a half quart of more of old oil that would have otherwise remained behind. I had put 40 miles on it between October and today then put over 20 miles on it today. I'm trying to burn off most of the old gas that's in the tank from last September so I can give it an infusion of new fuel.
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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-16 7:43 PM (#580990 - in reply to #580837)
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Today, I installed an NOS piece of hood trim I bought from user Powerflite.




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Powerflite
Posted 2019-04-16 7:53 PM (#580991 - in reply to #526294)
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That looks great on there. I'm glad you are putting it to good use.
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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-17 12:31 PM (#581021 - in reply to #580990)
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Today, I took it in and had new tires installed. There's not much selection in 75 series anymore. I read that if a tire doesn't have a DOT date code, it's older than 1990. My tires had no date codes.


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56D500boy
Posted 2019-04-17 12:49 PM (#581022 - in reply to #581021)
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71charger_fan - 2019-04-17 9:31 AM

Today, I took it in and had new tires installed. There's not much selection in 75 series anymore.


I'm running 235/75/15s. Look similar to yours. What brand did you use?

What is your disc brake conversion?

I didn't realize the difference between 55 and 56 Grills:

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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-17 12:58 PM (#581023 - in reply to #526294)
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They're Hankook. The only tire the place I used had in 215/75-15. Cost me $382 out the door, but there's supposed to be a $70 rebate. Disc brake conversion is from Scarebird. Cadillac hoses, Probe rotors, S-10 calipers.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-04-17 3:36 PM (#581027 - in reply to #581023)
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71charger_fan - 2019-04-17 9:58 AM

They're Hankook. The only tire the place I used had in 215/75-15. Cost me $382 out the door, but there's supposed to be a $70 rebate.

Disc brake conversion is from Scarebird. Cadillac hoses, Probe rotors, S-10 calipers.


Thanks Terrence for both answers. I've been finding lately that I *am* getting some rubbing of my 235/75/15s on my 56 Dodge on the inside of the front tires (frame and tie rods ends) and the outside of the rear tires (on the rear wheel well lip - even I trimmed a bunch of metal out of there before the tires were installed back in the fall of 2016). So 215/75/15 would be a good alternative for me.

I asked about the disc brakes on behalf of George B. who does visit the forum and is interested in a brake conversion for his 56 Dodge with 11" drums.

I will pass the info along.


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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-17 7:40 PM (#581045 - in reply to #526294)
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'56 knuckles should be different than '55. The disk brake conversion process will be the same, but the caliper mounting bracket, rotor, and caliper might be different. A lot of the specifics of my conversion are back on pages 2 and 3 of this thread.

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56D500boy
Posted 2019-04-17 9:12 PM (#581058 - in reply to #581045)
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71charger_fan - 2019-04-17 4:40 PM

'56 knuckles should be different than '55. The disk brake conversion process will be the same, but the caliper mounting bracket, rotor, and caliper might be different. A lot of the specifics of my conversion are back on pages 2 and 3 of this thread.


Thanks for the reminder about your earlier work. I went back and reviewed the photos and the text. I captured the brake related stuff and created a WORD doc if you want a copy for your files.

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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-17 9:44 PM (#581060 - in reply to #526294)
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Too bad, I could have sent you a Word doc as I wrote up the conversion for the Chrysler Product Owners Club of DC newsletter.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-04-17 11:05 PM (#581064 - in reply to #581060)
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71charger_fan - 2019-04-17 6:44 PM

Too bad, I could have sent you a Word doc as I wrote up the conversion for the Chrysler Product Owners Club of DC newsletter.


Never too late for a better document (than what I pieced together). I've pm'd you here at the forum with my email address.

Going back to page 3 of this thread, which Gabriel shocks did you use for the rear? These ones:





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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-18 11:24 AM (#581091 - in reply to #526294)
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The rear shocks are the same application as later A-body rears. I think they were 81469.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-04-18 3:06 PM (#581105 - in reply to #581091)
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71charger_fan - 2019-04-18 8:24 AM

The rear shocks are the same application as later A-body rears. I think they were 81469.


Thanks Terrence. I chased Gabriel 81469s at Rock Auto and then went back in and pretended my car was a 68 Dodge Dart 340 (which would be okay to have ) and got this result:

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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-04-27 8:51 PM (#581426 - in reply to #581091)
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Today, I took it out for a ride and it seemed to be suffering from the ignition breaking up and fuel starvation. I pulled the fuel filter and was quite shocked by how much rust came out of it. After putting on a new filter, I pulled a couple of plugs. On both, the electrodes had been hit by the valves and the gaps had closed up to about .020 (should be .060 with HEI). I looked down in the cylinder and saw a nice shiny circle inscribed on the valve (at least the valves are rotating) by the plug electrode. So, I've ordered a set of indexing washers. That should fix that problem.
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Posted 2019-04-30 7:39 PM (#581586 - in reply to #581426)
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The electrodes after being hammered almost closed by the valves.



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56D500boy
Posted 2019-05-01 1:37 AM (#581597 - in reply to #581586)
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71charger_fan - 2019-04-30 4:39 PM
The electrodes after being hammered almost closed by the valves.


So I would say, either your cam is too high a lift or your plugs extend too far into the head, i.e. they are too hot and you need "colder" plugs.



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71charger_fan
Posted 2019-05-01 8:26 AM (#581608 - in reply to #581586)
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Yesterday, I finally got up the nerve to tackle replacing the cracked driver door glass. It wasn't too bad of a job. The worst part was, after getting the unbroken glass on to the regulator, I had trouble getting it to sit square in the door. I finally realized that a regulator roller had popped out of a small length of channel attached to the inner door skin. Once I popped that back in, it went fine. Even getting the vent window assembly out wasn't difficult. Now, I have to get new window channel.

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normsclassicradio
Posted 2019-05-01 11:44 AM (#581622 - in reply to #581586)
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That style Champion plug ends in Y or YC. It is the extended reach version. You may need to use the standard reach version. Same heat range, but the tip is flush with the shell.
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Posted 2019-05-01 11:48 AM (#581624 - in reply to #526294)
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This is a flathead engine correct? The champion listing for this is a RJ12C (592). Are those a RJ12YC? They extend too far into the chamber.
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Posted 2019-05-01 1:23 PM (#581628 - in reply to #526294)
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These are RJ18YC6 plugs. It's what I was sold as the correct plug to work with the HEI. It's painfully obvious the tip length is not compatible with my flathead. I'm going to try indexing washers first.
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Posted 2019-05-01 2:00 PM (#581633 - in reply to #526294)
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Those are heat range 18, 3 steps hotter than stock. Y= extended reach, C=copper core, 6= .060 gap for HEI.
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Posted 2019-05-01 7:10 PM (#581640 - in reply to #581633)
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I'm hoping these will solve the problem.



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Posted 2019-05-01 7:14 PM (#581641 - in reply to #526294)
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Yes, if you can index the side electrode to face away from the valve these should help.
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Posted 2019-05-03 9:14 AM (#581716 - in reply to #526294)
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Yesterday, I regapped the plugs and put the .050 washers under the plugs. I reached out to Langdon's for a non-extended-tip plug recommendation and they suggested RJ18C6. A plug that, as far as I can tell, doesn't exist. I plugged that number into an online spark plug cross reference and it suggested ACDelco R46SZ, Autolite 847, Accel 198. I'll have to get a look at those plugs and see if any would work.

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Posted 2019-05-03 10:28 AM (#581719 - in reply to #526294)
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Looking in the NAPA catalog, the only one of these without the extended reach is the AC R46SZ.
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Posted 2019-05-03 6:42 PM (#581726 - in reply to #526294)
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I just ordered 6 of the R46SZ plugs.
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Posted 2019-05-03 7:18 PM (#581728 - in reply to #581023)
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71charger_fan - 2019-04-17 9:58 AM

They're Hankook. The only tire the place I used had in 215/75-15. Cost me $382 out the door, but there's supposed to be a $70 rebate.


Apparently those tires have been discontinued.

That said my local tire shop found some locally (in a wholesale warehouse). CDN$700 for four out the door (mounted, balanced, taxes, environmental levies, etc. in). US$382 is about CDN$512.

Hmm....

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Posted 2019-05-03 9:10 PM (#581733 - in reply to #526294)
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Try 215/70-15. it's a more common size and may be less expensive. Probably a closer match to the original diameter of the 6.70-15 they originally came with.
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Posted 2019-05-04 1:42 AM (#581741 - in reply to #581733)
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71charger_fan - 2019-05-03 6:10 PM

Try 215/70-15. it's a more common size and may be less expensive. Probably a closer match to the original diameter of the 6.70-15 they originally came with.


6.70-15 maybe on your Savoy, not my 56 Dodge D500. 7.60-15 at least.

(in a previous thread, I determined that my stock wheels were 5.5" wide which implied either 7.60 or 8.00 wide tires):





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Posted 2019-05-07 10:44 AM (#581894 - in reply to #581726)
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Eventually, I'll swap the champions out for these.




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Posted 2019-05-07 11:39 AM (#581898 - in reply to #526294)
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Of course those don't look like the photos on the NAPA site. I hope they are enough shorter to make a difference..
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Posted 2019-05-07 11:39 AM (#581899 - in reply to #526294)
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Of course those don't look like the photos on the NAPA site. I hope they are enough shorter to make a difference..
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Posted 2019-05-07 11:48 AM (#581900 - in reply to #526294)
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I have a feeling I'm probably just going to resign myself to using indexing washers to buy the clearance I need. Not a big deal. Langdon's told me they think my head was shaved at some point.
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Posted 2019-05-07 5:31 PM (#581907 - in reply to #526294)
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Don't worry, it'll grow back.
Just kidding of course.

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Posted 2019-05-07 7:44 PM (#581911 - in reply to #526294)
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While I found it impossible to get an exact measurement, it looks to me that the AC plugs protrude about .045 less than the Champions.
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Posted 2019-05-16 9:51 AM (#582187 - in reply to #526294)
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I was having a devil of a time setting the timing. Eventually, I realized the 0 I was seeing was part of a 10. So, I finally took some sandpaper to the pulley and found the "DC" marks hiding under years of rust and crud. I hit it with some brake cleaner then some white model paint and wiped off the excess with my finger. That made it easier.
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