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Powerflite
Posted 2017-02-24 10:21 AM (#534626 - in reply to #529650)
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Thanks everyone. Brad, I think I have my fill of Californian rust so importing the pure Canadian form will have to wait for another time.

Bill, I never considered that as an oil filter access panel, more as just another fender mount because they use the same thing on the left side. But I guess it could be used that way.
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-02-26 12:50 AM (#534710 - in reply to #534626)
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On a whim, I decided to paint the roof since the original paint is all but gone and it is getting rusty up there. So I spent the day removing the trim and doing the repair work to the rear section. It was pretty rusty here because of a bad bondo job that allowed water to get underneath it. So I cut the section out, cleaned it all out, sprayed it down with a coat of epoxy primer and welded a patch into it. I learned the hard way when working on my Barracuda that whenever you do any grinding, cutting or welding, to always protect your glass with a damp cloth so that it doesn't get pitted from the hot sparks and molten balls. I got it all welded in, and half-way done welding up the crappy factory seam when I ran out of Argon gas. So I had to stop for the day. I am happy with the way it turned out. It shouldn't need much filler once I get the welds cut down.

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Posted 2017-02-27 11:33 AM (#534803 - in reply to #529650)
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Nice job on that patch, Nathan!!
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-03-05 6:55 PM (#535221 - in reply to #534803)
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Thanks John I am happy to be making more progress on it. I cleaned it all up and came out quite well. It required a little more hammer and dolly work afterward than I thought it would. Probably because of the previous dent that was there. Working so close to the drip rail requires a lot of patience in doing the clean up work too.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-03-05 7:05 PM (#535222 - in reply to #535221)
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I discovered some new work after I removed the drip rail and sanded it down. Two more holes to patch up. Fortunately, these are relatively easy to deal with. I just had to undo the screws holding the stainless trim to the panel to pry it away from there and stick the copper plate between it to protect it. Then use the copper welding spoon to hold against the backside, and weld them up. That welding spoon was the best $10 I ever spent at HarborFrieight. Be sure to carefully grind smooth the backside well to be able to get the trim back on afterward.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-03-05 7:24 PM (#535225 - in reply to #535222)
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I also had time left over to sand down the entire roof. The old paint was severely cracked and was a real pain to remove. But I used a flapper wheel on an electric grinder and that seemed to work very well at cutting through it. Some places still have the undercoat on, but that is easier to remove and I will us a D/A sander on that to bring it down to bare metal. The orange tape worked pretty well at protecting the trim from the sander. In the future though, I think I would use black electrical tape instead. It would hold up better if you accidentally swipe it. Unfortunately, I found yet another pocket of rust that was completely hidden underneath the paint on the other side. I also discovered a small dent in the roof that needs to be addressed. Oh well, in the words of the great American poet, Larry the cable guy; I just need to "Git 'er done".

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Powerflite
Posted 2017-03-20 3:18 AM (#536281 - in reply to #535225)
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I got the metal repair on the roof done, painted it in primer, let it dry, and started wet sanding. I applied another coat of primer to fill small imperfections and will sand that once it dries. In the meantime, I welded in the extra holes on the right inner fender and cleaned it up pretty well. I was about to flatten this large dent in it until I realized that it was put there by the factory. Strange looking thing to be put there on purpose. Maybe it is there to provide extra clearance for the brake hose? There is another strange dent on the rear of the panel that doesn't look like it belongs there so I will check into it. I also still need to go over the small remaining dents from the large one that I took out in the center of the panel.

I decided to paint the inner fender mounting panels a gray color just to break up the monotony of an all-black engine compartment.



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ToMopar
Posted 2017-03-20 3:58 AM (#536282 - in reply to #529650)
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Nathan,

my right inner fender has the same "dent"
I have a 57 Fireflite,- so it must be the same part



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-03-20 2:57 PM (#536311 - in reply to #536282)
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Thanks Tom. Do you know if this dent is from the factor too? I suspect that it isn't, but I don't want to take out something that is supposed to be there.



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ToMopar
Posted 2017-03-21 7:29 AM (#536359 - in reply to #529650)
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Hi Nathan

I wonder for the "antenna inspection hole",- yours is much bigger than mine. But I do not have this "dent" on firewall side.



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Posted 2017-03-21 7:46 AM (#536361 - in reply to #529650)
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Nathan! I see you also have something to bite into...
Good Luck!
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-03-21 12:08 PM (#536371 - in reply to #536361)
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Thanks Magnus & Tom Looks like I need to work on that dent. It is beyond my imagination how it could have got there. I assume that the larger access hole was for the optional power antenna module. I am surprised that the DeSoto doesn't have it; but I just checked my '58 DeSoto, and it doesn't have the large access panel either. Strange. Was the power antenna an option for a DeSoto?

One of the square holes is there to mount your fender brace. My panel has the nut for it still in place. But I wonder what the other hole was used for. Maybe to mount something for the antenna? It looks like they didn't bother to put the nut in place there on my panel.

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Posted 2017-03-28 1:12 AM (#536792 - in reply to #529650)
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The DeSoto had the power antenna option, but it was installed on the rear deck instead, for some reason...
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-04-22 1:09 PM (#538603 - in reply to #536792)
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Restored the original plates on the car.



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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2017-04-22 9:10 PM (#538634 - in reply to #529650)
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This restoration seems to be going great, I can't believe you're out on the driveway working on your car that's almost unheard of up here in the Great White North but not entirely impossible " You Just Can't Do Much In Six Days" Of Summer Here"
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-04-23 11:41 AM (#538677 - in reply to #538634)
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It's definitely not ideal. I really wish I had the space to build a bigger garage to work on these. Because of the visibility on my front driveway, I cant just completely disassemble the car, I have to make it always look like a drive-able car. So I jack up the rear to level it out, always keep the front fenders on and remove them only temporarily. My cookie cutter garage isn't big enough to even fit this car in once they put the washer and dryer & water heater in there. And it gets crowded with all the tools, motor rebuild & equipment. But I will wheel it in with the back end sticking out to paint the firewall, when I am ready for that. Here, the weather is quite nice most of the time, but the sun is quite hot & really beats down on you. I'm getting too old to be out in the direct sun so much, so I will be paying to get a permanent or semi-permanent car-port installed - *if* the county will give me the permit to do it. If not, I will have to use some temporary structure to keep the sun off of me.



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Posted 2017-04-23 1:04 PM (#538683 - in reply to #529650)
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I hear you "the people in the hood" I own the residential lot next me also and that's were a have a couple cars hid away in plain site I bought black car covers for them "Out of site out of mind" No one really can tell if they're are drivable or not and the covers disguise them well.
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Posted 2017-04-23 4:01 PM (#538694 - in reply to #538677)
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Powerflite - 2017-04-23 10:41 AM

It's definitely not ideal. I really wish I had the space to build a bigger garage to work on these. Because of the visibility on my front driveway, I cant just completely disassemble the car, I have to make it always look like a drive-able car. So I jack up the rear to level it out, always keep the front fenders on and remove them only temporarily. My cookie cutter garage isn't big enough to even fit this car in once they put the washer and dryer & water heater in there. And it gets crowded with all the tools, motor rebuild & equipment. But I will wheel it in with the back end sticking out to paint the firewall, when I am ready for that. Here, the weather is quite nice most of the time, but the sun is quite hot & really beats down on you. I'm getting too old to be out in the direct sun so much, so I will be paying to get a permanent or semi-permanent car-port installed - *if* the county will give me the permit to do it. If not, I will have to use some temporary structure to keep the sun off of me.

I took the wheeled base off of an office chair, threw an old wheel and tire on top (for counterweight) and then stuck a patio umbrella down the center hole. As long as the ground is reasonably flat and level, it makes an easily movable shade tree. It doesn't have the same coverage as a carport but it's cheap and doesn't need a permit. It's also quicker to put away than other temporary shade structures.
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Posted 2017-04-30 11:55 AM (#539156 - in reply to #538694)
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Sounds like a nice mobile solution. I am just hoping for something a little more permanent.

I was working in the garage yesterday when I heard a loud !BANG! I thought something had blown on my air compressor, but looked around and found this pathetic tire blown out. There was hardly even any weight on it. It is completely blown but doesn't look very flat because the car has no drivetrain in it. It just got some direct sunlight from the low evening sun and that is all it took to do this. Makes me reconsider trusting my life to Goodyear products. "Integrity", yeah right.

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Posted 2017-04-30 12:06 PM (#539159 - in reply to #529650)
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that's a retread isn't it? and probably 20 years old.
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Posted 2017-04-30 12:18 PM (#539160 - in reply to #539159)
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No it isn't a retread, and it is the newest tire on the car. In fact, it is the newest tire on any of my non-drivers. It was made in 2002. Under the blown tread, I can stick my finger through the rubber. There is nothing else there. Junk. They should have labeled it Badyear. I sure hope they have got their act together since then...

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Posted 2017-04-30 4:19 PM (#539163 - in reply to #538603)
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Powerflite - 2017-04-23 10:09 AM

Restored the original plates on the car. :)


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Did you silk screen them ???
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Posted 2017-04-30 4:37 PM (#539165 - in reply to #529650)
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I guess you can a bad tire from any manufacturer but one 15 years old is really not one to complain about. The tire manufacturers recommend replacing tires after 7 or 8 years even if not driven much due to deterioration. Yeah there are tires that run longer without problems but why take a chance when the cost is less than a loved one's life?
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Posted 2017-04-30 5:25 PM (#539168 - in reply to #539165)
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Doc, no, I paid someone else to do it. Happy to upload some of the work to other people I can trust.

Viper Guy, what you say is of course true, but it is also true that I don't want to trust my loved one's life to a sub-par tire, even if it is within the recommended use duration. The fact that it self-destructed so easily makes it difficult for me to trust the brand at all.
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Posted 2017-04-30 9:09 PM (#539174 - in reply to #529650)
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your complaining about a 2002 tire from California popping? seriously?
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-05-01 1:22 AM (#539191 - in reply to #539174)
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I'm seriously saying this tire is utter crap. Not that I care much, just that I won't buy them. That is all.
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Posted 2017-05-01 1:37 AM (#539192 - in reply to #539156)
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I've had the same thing happen with a tire except I was under the car when it blew. I first thought the car dropped and I was dead.

The car had sat for about 8 years without moving. The tire was old and was weather checked but always held air. I put the car up on jack stands for a couple hours to work on the driveshaft when that tire suddenly blew out. My uneducated guess it that after holding a static position for so long that it couldn't handle pressure (or lack of) being changed. I'm sure an engineer could explain it better. It taught me not to trust old tires or tires that had sat in one position for extended periods.



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Posted 2017-05-01 11:07 AM (#539216 - in reply to #529650)
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Newer radials all tend to do that once they expire. 20 year old nasty , bald, bias ply tires I'd trust far more than radials that are seven or more years old.

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Posted 2017-05-01 8:50 PM (#539254 - in reply to #529650)
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I've had the same Firestone radial WWWs on my Cadillac for 15 years...and they still look like new. But it only goes about 2000 miles a year, and almost never sits outside...except for car shows...

But now that I have said that, one will blow this year......

Inner fenders look good. What kind of paint did you use on them?
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Posted 2017-05-02 11:38 AM (#539286 - in reply to #539216)
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big m - 2017-05-01 8:07 AM
Newer radials all tend to do that once they expire. 20 year old nasty , bald, bias ply tires I'd trust far more than radials that are seven or more years old.
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Very true John. The bias plys seem to last a lot longer.

Inner fenders look good. What kind of paint did you use on them?


You must be referring to Tom's fender. His look great. Mine are still in the first coat of primer, but I did manage to get most of the dents out of it pretty well. I keep finding more of them though every time I look at it again.



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Posted 2017-05-03 12:43 AM (#539345 - in reply to #539286)
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Powerflite - 2017-05-02 11:38 AM

You must be referring to Tom's fender. His look great. Mine are still in the first coat of primer, but I did manage to get most of the dents out of it pretty well. I keep finding more of them though
every time I look at it again.


I always thought "those " dents occurred at the factory. I assumed that they were a result of ongoing changes, you know, like shimming one side or altering something WITHOUT changing the original stamping die. If an alteration or shim to an existing die could "fix" an alignment problem the assembly line engineers would go for it! Any resultant distortion would hardly be noticed on the assembled car.

For that reason I never dollied them out! I learned a long time ago that if the original panel alignment of a given car was poor, then, me, as a restorer would have a very hard time to improve on it!!

I always had to try! I usually got it but it wasn't easy!

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Posted 2017-05-03 2:54 AM (#539346 - in reply to #529650)
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@ Nathan, the dent job looks good.

@ Greg, I agree, - you never know what they have done at the assembly line. Difficult to say if Nathans dents are original
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Posted 2017-05-03 10:21 AM (#539368 - in reply to #539346)
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That's weird, there was only one picture of my core support yesterday. Now there are two. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Mopar parts have been multiplying in my garage for quite a few years now!

Thanks Tom. It was harder to get it right than I thought it would be. Probably went over it 4 times before it looked & felt good in primer. Greg, You may be right about that particular dent shown in RtInner Fender picture, because I can't fathom how that would occur other than someone wedging the inner fender to a new location. But there were so many dents in this thing, including many that were inexcusable, that there had to be a couple of abusive previous owners involved. One of them (I already mostly fixed it before I removed the fender from the car) pushed the mid-section in by more than 3 inches. You don't get a dent like that from the factory. I got a serious workout fixing that one just whacking at it as hard as I could for 20mins until I was able to finally push it back into place. I had my son use a long 2x4 as a dolly on the other side because nothing else was long enough to work with it.

The front valance was no exception to this. It has a pretty major dent along it too. It's really hard to show a filthy dent in a picture, so I cleaned it off a little so it is a little more visible. It has a deep crease along it with a sharp dent at the end. I could fix it with a lot of work, but since I have a much better one from the '57 Windsor parts car, I will just use that one. I would rather it be painted in gloss, but I may just leave it as is with a matte finish since it looks to be pretty well done.



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Posted 2017-05-09 10:12 PM (#539804 - in reply to #529650)
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Piece by piece..... This one was relatively easy. It only had 2 small dents in the sides and top.



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Posted 2017-05-09 10:16 PM (#539805 - in reply to #529650)
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I got a nice workout this morning wet sanding the roof with 400 grit. To think that people pay for a membership to workout at a gym, when I would pay them to get a good workout on my driveway! Looks like I have a shallow high spot in the center. I will take a spoon and slap it down a bit before re-primering it. And then.....more wet sanding!

By the way, the black spot at the bottom right of the picture is black paint that I applied to test the compatability with the primer. The red oxide primer isn't compatible with the top coat so I will use this gray primer over the top of it to prevent any compatability issues. But that black paint is a lot harder to sand than the primer. I will have to get out my DA sander to work on that now.

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FIN ME
Posted 2017-05-10 8:58 AM (#539815 - in reply to #529650)
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Nice work, Powerflite.

You seem to have the hands of a welding surgeon!

Impressive job!:


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Posted 2017-05-10 10:18 AM (#539817 - in reply to #529650)
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Thanks for the flattery Rosy. Welding there wasn't actually the hard part. Cleaning up those welds was a lot harder and took a lot of patience.
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Posted 2017-05-10 10:23 AM (#539818 - in reply to #536282)
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ToMopar - 2017-03-20 3:58 AM

Nathan,

my right inner fender has the same "dent"
I have a 57 Fireflite,- so it must be the same part


My '57 Firesweep also had a dent of the right inner fender, which appeared to have been there through at least one repaint. We didn't notice the dent until the primer was applied, due to the wear and tear that existed on the surface of the inner fenders. I replaced it with an undented inner fender that I got from Big M.

These dented inner right fenders seem to have been contagious!

The engine and such all fit back in without any issues, and without having to re-dent the inner fenders.

Ah, the mysteries of our finned beasts...



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FIN ME
Posted 2017-05-10 10:48 AM (#539819 - in reply to #539817)
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Powerflite - 2017-05-10 10:18 AM

Thanks for the flattery Rosy. Welding there wasn't actually the hard part. Cleaning up those welds was a lot harder and took a lot of patience.


Patience and talent, you modest devil!

I'm impressed by this sort of attention to detail as I did try my hand at welding, polishing, and general body work/paint-prep years ago when I owned an old '67 Newport (argh...those concave surfaces! ) Difficult, but I sure did have fun, and the results were pretty good, I must admit...thankfully. (Wish I still had that car.)

I think you're right about the patience though. Pride in a job well done, especially when it concerns a labour of love, demands a lot of patience.

But it's so satisfying when the job is done, don't you think? I think (know) my shop thought that I was a bubble-off-plumb when I spent days Dremel-ing the donor car's rusted drip rails out from the delicate stainless drip rail trim that I just "had to have" installed on my '57 DeSoto. These drip rails had been pulled off of the donor car, albeit it carefully, but the rusted drip rails remained embedded into the backside channels of the stainless trim. The sparks from my Dremel-ing job did set my top on fire a couple of times a la "Blazing Blouses", but it was so worth it IMHO. I think that the shop was a tad surprised when I dragged the intact drip rails back for installation. Mind you, I think that the guy that possessed the cajones to use a polishing wheel on these drip rails was the real hero! Yikes, what a job.

Anyway, it's interesting reading about your car's progress and your dedication to what can seem at times to be an endless process!








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Posted 2017-05-10 11:45 AM (#539826 - in reply to #529650)
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yeah I would say take the dent out its not factory
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Posted 2017-05-10 5:30 PM (#539842 - in reply to #539819)
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Rosy, your blazing blouses story gave me a good laugh. I have set the frayed bottoms of my pants & shirt sleeves on fire a couple of times and ground away part of my shoe with the wire wheel. I don't think that most people are familiar with the notion that many '50's Mopar parts are pretty darn scarce. Good for you for saving that drip rail molding.

But you are right, that this job does seem endless at times. A never-ending array of more parts to clean and restore. And the more it becomes disassembled, the higher the danger that I may end up losing parts, which is even worse. But even putting together my '58 Dodge that I didn't even paint was very satisfying to be able to drive a neat old Dodge down the road after sitting for 30+ years. The reward is definitely worth the trouble, no matter what level of restore you can afford to put into it.
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Posted 2017-05-16 11:01 AM (#540143 - in reply to #529650)
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I received a new power window switch from Ebay yesterday. I was grateful to be able to purchase this since my original switch was missing. Fortunately, I did find the bezel for it though. I had to bend the tabs of the bezel slightly because it was putting too much stress on the plastic housing of the switch and was preventing it from working properly. It looks like this metal clip on the center ground pin is preventing the white plastic wire connector from seating up against the switch. Should I chamfer that hole out so that it will seat better? That area is particularly weak and I don't wish to weaken it further, but it needs to make good contact regardless.

I only have 2 of the steel clips that hold the bezel to the door panel Does anyone know where I can get more of them?

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Posted 2017-05-18 6:17 PM (#540356 - in reply to #529650)
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Often those inner fender dents are the result of a 'mechanic' using a pry bar or hammer to provide more clearance when he's plying his trade under the hood.
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Posted 2017-05-30 11:05 AM (#541197 - in reply to #540356)
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A lot of them are very likely caused by that Greg. I think many of them also occurred when the motor was not so gracefully removed. Over the 3-day weekend, I got all the engine bay panels ready and waiting for the final wet sanding and paint. I am going to attempt to paint them all at the same time when I paint the firewall since they are all the same color. But the firewall still needs quite a bit of work before it can be painted. I also cleaned up the frame and got that painted up. I didn't paint all of the control arms, but I will do those as they come off when the front end gets rebuilt. I think the frame looks a lot better in a semi-gloss than a full gloss so that's what I used. Now I need to hurry up and get those fenders back on before anyone notices.

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Posted 2017-06-04 6:54 PM (#541520 - in reply to #529650)
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Just for fun, I painted the side stripes white yesterday. I picked up a replacement lower door trim piece from a NY wagon which is longer. But, I need to figure out how to cut it down shorter to use as a replacement for this door.

Now I am working on sanding the firewall to get it ready for paint. I had to remove the paint completely in a couple of spots because the factory had spilled liquid sealer down the entire firewall. Looked too messy to leave it like that and it was too difficult to remove without destroying the underlying paint. Also sanded out a couple of large paint drips...

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Posted 2017-06-11 2:16 AM (#541924 - in reply to #529650)
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This rust hole in the cowl didn't look easy to fix, but it wasn't too bad. The panels aren't painted in between so they rust pretty readily between there. I pried the edge of the panel up all along it and used a small screw driver to scrape out any rust divots in there. I also chiseled out any rust lumps as well. After removing the cowl drip shield, I could get a copper spoon up in behind it and get the hole welded up. After I get the weld cleaned up to my satisfaction, I will spray a rust converter all inside there and paint in between there as well. Then use a hammer to snug it back down to the bottom panel, where it is supposed to be. This should prevent any small amount of rust that might remain between there from cankering and getting worse.

I decided to remove the cowl tag when one edge of it started to crumble after hitting it with a wire brush. I was able to get a grip on one of the one-way screws with a pair of vice grips, but the other one required welding to it first. Then it broke and I had to weld a blob onto the remainder to get it out. I was surprised to find 2 extra holes underneath it, put there by the factory. Why are they there?? These would leak water directly into the ****pit! I didn't like that so I welded them up shut.



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Posted 2017-06-15 11:31 AM (#542182 - in reply to #529650)
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Cleaned up the cowl vent drip shield. It was painted black by the factory and the original paint was still on the underside, but it had no primer under it and the topside was either non-existent or worn off. Hopefully the red oxide primer and new paint will keep it in good shape for many years.



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Posted 2017-06-19 10:24 AM (#542452 - in reply to #529650)
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I didn't get a lot of time to work on the car this weekend, but I did manage to get the holes filled in and cleaned up. This area still needs more work though. I am going to strip the paint entirely from the top side because of the non-uniformity and repair work that I need to do here.



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Posted 2017-06-19 11:43 AM (#542457 - in reply to #529650)
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Any progress is good progress.

Looking good, Nathan!

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Posted 2017-06-20 2:39 PM (#542520 - in reply to #542457)
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I agree John I seem to make more progress in the cool morning hours before going to work than I do in the entire day in this terrible heat!
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