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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-09 12:01 AM (#539736)
Subject: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Location: Wild Wonderful		While checking out the Forward Look facebook page, I ran across this guy saying that he wanted to unload
this 1958 DeSoto 2 dr Ht. I remembered seeing this car a year before, when they first got it. They took apart
the front end, and removed the engine, to get it rebuilt. They also found a broken torsion bar. After that,
they just lost interest in it. So that is where I came in. So I drove eight and a half hours, one way, to pick it up.
I did not mind the trip one bit. It was nice to see that car in my rear view mirror all the way home.



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mogge65
Posted 2017-05-09 12:31 AM (#539738 - in reply to #539736)
Subject: RE: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-05-09 5:12 AM (#539750 - in reply to #539736)
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Posted 2017-05-09 10:08 AM (#539761 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-09 12:40 PM (#539767 - in reply to #539761)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Yes. And I think this was one of the first ones for spring.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-09 12:42 PM (#539768 - in reply to #539767)
Subject: RE: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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ToMopar
Posted 2017-05-09 12:43 PM (#539769 - in reply to #539736)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-09 1:46 PM (#539777 - in reply to #539769)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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SCH = 097
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BDY = 432
ST = 2
PNT = XWW
TRM = 631
TR = 3
PB = 2
AH = 5
UC = 1
B = 4

Can you see it?



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-05-09 1:46 PM (#539778 - in reply to #539736)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Location: So. Cal		Really nice project. Those '58 spring specials really are special. I hope the rockers are in better shape than your old one. But at least you should be able to get this one done a lot quicker.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-09 5:59 PM (#539794 - in reply to #539778)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-12 2:29 PM (#539922 - in reply to #539778)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Here is a factory mistake for ya. If you look real close, you can see there is an L-360 under the serial number.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-14 12:27 AM (#539984 - in reply to #539922)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Location: Wild Wonderful		This was on top of the firewall, on the drivers side.
What does DW stand for?

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Powerflite
Posted 2017-05-14 9:53 AM (#539992 - in reply to #539736)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Location: So. Cal		Looks like it maybe a Los Angeles built car - oh nevermind, I just realized that the DeSoto tags were a little different.

Since you were lucky enough to figure out what the tag says, you can get a new one made up from AG Backeast, among other places.

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-14 10:16 AM (#539993 - in reply to #539984)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		The inspectors mark, original trunk mat, original carpets and seat upholstery, original door panels. This is all new to me,
because I usually buy cars that have been rebuilt, recovered or just destroyed. The car is very interesting with all the
different things that I have found. I love this Heather Blue, it has a purple-ly tint to it.
The passenger side floors are the worst, partly because there was a mouseketeer living in the glovebox, and they used
that side of the car as their toilet.
The trunk is nice. Someone bolted in a heavy duty plate on the inside, to hold up the gas tank supports. Nicely done.



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Posted 2017-05-14 10:18 AM (#539994 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-14 10:39 AM (#539996 - in reply to #539994)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		The trunk floor. Notice the plate for the gas tank supports.



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Posted 2017-05-14 5:33 PM (#540022 - in reply to #539996)
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Posted 2017-05-14 5:44 PM (#540023 - in reply to #539736)
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Posted 2017-05-14 7:48 PM (#540025 - in reply to #539736)
Subject: RE: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Please put your DeSoto back to the blue colour.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-14 10:59 PM (#540037 - in reply to #540022)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I gave my friendly Mouseketeers in the glove box an eviction notice.

I think that I will bevel the edges on that plate in the trunk, to make it more presentable.

And Yes, I will paint this car back to what it was, Heather Blue (or something close to it) with a white top.

This is my newest sign. Not a reproduction, but the real thing, from a real dealership. I think it cool.



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-05-15 2:10 AM (#540046 - in reply to #540037)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Yes, that is Heather Blue. I saw it posted somewhere that someone
called it Haze Blue, but Heather Blue is much deeper and intense.

My DeSoto also has that inspector's stamp.

That data tag looks like the one that was on my Adventurer. About
as crunchy and useless as a saltine cracker ! Mine just crumbled into
unrecognizable flakes.

Hard to believe you have found TWO Spring Special coupes, and both
Firedomes at that ! What are the chances ? !!!
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-15 9:14 AM (#540055 - in reply to #540046)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		The Data plate was so bad that I put some spray paint on it, to hold it together, before I removed it.
The Inspectors stamp is very nice. I need to preserve that.
Here is the inspectors signature. I have seen numbers and/or letters on this panel, but this is the
first time I have seen someone put five circles on it.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-15 4:14 PM (#540084 - in reply to #540046)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Doctor DeSoto - 2017-05-15 2:10 AM

Yes, that is Heather Blue. I saw it posted somewhere that someone
called it Haze Blue, but Heather Blue is much deeper and intense.

My DeSoto also has that inspector's stamp.

That data tag looks like the one that was on my Adventurer. About
as crunchy and useless as a saltine cracker ! Mine just crumbled into
unrecognizable flakes.

Hard to believe you have found TWO Spring Special coupes, and both
Firedomes at that ! What are the chances ? !!!



Yes, I remember our conversation about Heather and Haze, and weather or not it was a spring color.
I should have patted myself on the back, 'cause that's about the only time I was right about something.

This Spring Special just, kinda fell in my lap. I just happen to see a picture of it on Facebook, and the guy
said that he wanted to "unload it". I sent him a message, and he said make me an offer. We went back and
forth a couple of times, then finally agreed on a price. His wife said that was much better than the guy in
NH that only offered $800. I guess that I am the only fool out there, 'cause I paid MUCH more than that.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-16 9:38 AM (#540137 - in reply to #540084)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-20 10:12 PM (#540478 - in reply to #540137)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-05-21 8:38 PM (#540549 - in reply to #540478)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-21 9:06 PM (#540553 - in reply to #540549)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I actually like the tri-tone paint jobs, like the mid 50s.
And I think if the top is white, it will bring out the white wall tires more.
But yes, I see what you are saying.
To tell you the truth, I will be using a true (three stage) Pearl White that has a lot of silver in it.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-22 11:23 PM (#540670 - in reply to #540553)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-22 11:24 PM (#540671 - in reply to #540670)
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soiouz
Posted 2017-05-23 8:14 AM (#540693 - in reply to #540037)
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58DeSoDodge59 - 2017-05-14 10:59 PM

I gave my friendly Mouseketeers in the glove box an eviction notice.

I think that I will bevel the edges on that plate in the trunk, to make it more presentable.

And Yes, I will paint this car back to what it was, Heather Blue (or something close to it) with a white top.

This is my newest sign. Not a reproduction, but the real thing, from a real dealership. I think it cool.



That is a wonderful sign! Probably from Canada, as the Dodge-DeSoto dealership association was typically Canadian (Dodge-DeSoto-Dodge Trucks and Chrysler-Plymouth-Fargo trucks).
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-23 11:02 AM (#540710 - in reply to #540693)
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58DeSoDodge59 - 2017-05-14 10:59 PM

I gave my friendly Mouseketeers in the glove box an eviction notice.

I think that I will bevel the edges on that plate in the trunk, to make it more presentable.

And Yes, I will paint this car back to what it was, Heather Blue (or something close to it) with a white top.

This is my newest sign. Not a reproduction, but the real thing, from a real dealership. I think it cool.



That is a wonderful sign! Probably from Canada, as the Dodge-DeSoto dealership association was typically Canadian (Dodge-DeSoto-Dodge Trucks and Chrysler-Plymouth-Fargo trucks).



I was wondering why those signs are so rare. You hardly ever see them here in the states.
Do you see more of them up there?
I love that sign. It was only natural for me to get that particular style sign, because I
have a 59 DODGE and a 58 DESOTO, no Plymouths nor Chryslers. With the exception of
a 49 Chrysler Royal that my Grandfather gave to me. I was only thinking Forward Look.

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Posted 2017-05-23 11:21 AM (#540713 - in reply to #540710)
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soiouz - 2017-05-23 8:14 AM

58DeSoDodge59 - 2017-05-14 10:59 PM

I gave my friendly Mouseketeers in the glove box an eviction notice.

I think that I will bevel the edges on that plate in the trunk, to make it more presentable.

And Yes, I will paint this car back to what it was, Heather Blue (or something close to it) with a white top.

This is my newest sign. Not a reproduction, but the real thing, from a real dealership. I think it cool.



That is a wonderful sign! Probably from Canada, as the Dodge-DeSoto dealership association was typically Canadian (Dodge-DeSoto-Dodge Trucks and Chrysler-Plymouth-Fargo trucks).



I was wondering why those signs are so rare. You hardly ever see them here in the states.
Do you see more of them up there?
I love that sign. It was only natural for me to get that particular style sign, because I
have a 59 DODGE and a 58 DESOTO, no Plymouths nor Chryslers. With the exception of
a 49 Chrysler Royal that my Grandfather gave to me. I was only thinking Forward Look.



They are rare here too, but I do see them from time to time, often at crazy high prices. Last one I saw was at a swap meet last summer and the guy wanted around 3500$.

I know of another one nailed to a barn in rural Quebec, but the guy does not want to sell, as it was a gift from one of his late friends and I respect that.




I you can afford it, this one is super nice too... but that price!!! Wow!

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-art-collectibles/banff-canmore/dodge-desoto-...



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-23 11:27 AM (#540714 - in reply to #540713)
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58DeSoDodge59 - 2017-05-23 11:02 AM

soiouz - 2017-05-23 8:14 AM

58DeSoDodge59 - 2017-05-14 10:59 PM

I gave my friendly Mouseketeers in the glove box an eviction notice.

I think that I will bevel the edges on that plate in the trunk, to make it more presentable.

And Yes, I will paint this car back to what it was, Heather Blue (or something close to it) with a white top.

This is my newest sign. Not a reproduction, but the real thing, from a real dealership. I think it cool.



That is a wonderful sign! Probably from Canada, as the Dodge-DeSoto dealership association was typically Canadian (Dodge-DeSoto-Dodge Trucks and Chrysler-Plymouth-Fargo trucks).



I was wondering why those signs are so rare. You hardly ever see them here in the states.
Do you see more of them up there?
I love that sign. It was only natural for me to get that particular style sign, because I
have a 59 DODGE and a 58 DESOTO, no Plymouths nor Chryslers. With the exception of
a 49 Chrysler Royal that my Grandfather gave to me. I was only thinking Forward Look.



They are rare here too, but I do see them from time to time, often at crazy high prices. Last one I saw was at a swap meet last summer and the guy wanted around 3500$.

I know of another one nailed to a barn in rural Quebec, but the guy does not want to sell, as it was a gift from one of his late friends and I respect that.


Yeah, those 42 and 48 inch ones are big bucks. Mine is only 30 inches. It's all I can afford.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-23 11:33 AM (#540715 - in reply to #540714)
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Posted 2017-05-23 11:51 AM (#540716 - in reply to #540715)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I touched up the lower part of this panel, with Royal Blue. It's pretty close to Heather Blue, but not close enough.
It needs some metallic and a little more purple.



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Posted 2017-05-23 12:14 PM (#540720 - in reply to #540716)
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Posted 2017-05-23 2:41 PM (#540742 - in reply to #540716)
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I touched up the lower part of this panel, with Royal Blue. It's pretty close to Heather Blue, but not close enough.
It needs some metallic and a little more purple.


I agree. Not quite close enough. The purple hue really makes it unique.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-24 7:25 PM (#540834 - in reply to #540742)
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Posted 2017-05-30 12:52 AM (#541177 - in reply to #540834)
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Posted 2017-05-30 7:09 AM (#541185 - in reply to #539736)
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Posted 2017-05-31 5:38 PM (#541287 - in reply to #540046)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2017-05-15 2:10 AM

Yes, that is Heather Blue. I saw it posted somewhere that someone
called it Haze Blue, but Heather Blue is much deeper and intense.

My DeSoto also has that inspector's stamp.

That data tag looks like the one that was on my Adventurer. About
as crunchy and useless as a saltine cracker ! Mine just crumbled into
unrecognizable flakes.

Hard to believe you have found TWO Spring Special coupes, and both
Firedomes at that ! What are the chances ? !!!


Doc, does your inspector's stamp look exactly like mine? I am curious, because mine does not look like a
perfect circle, and I was wondering if they were made that way or is it just because they were moving fast
and just slapped it on there.? Double tapped, or hit crooked, whatever.?

Has anyone ever seen one of these stampers?





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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-05-31 5:48 PM (#541288 - in reply to #541185)
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showing off! :)



Just wishing all/or one of them were driveable. ' can't wait.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-06-01 3:17 PM (#541348 - in reply to #541288)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-06-01 3:33 PM (#541350 - in reply to #541287)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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58DeSoDodge59 - 2017-06-01 2:38 PM

Doc, does your inspector's stamp look exactly like mine? I am curious, because mine does not look like a
perfect circle, and I was wondering if they were made that way or is it just because they were moving fast
and just slapped it on there.? Double tapped, or hit crooked, whatever.?

Has anyone ever seen one of these stampers?



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I will have a look and report back. As I recall, it was identical (maybe
the number was different ???)

The stamps were hand-carved from potatoes. My Kindergarten class
made some like this 50 years ago.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-08-02 10:40 PM (#545411 - in reply to #541350)
Subject: Re: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Location: Wild Wonderful		Well after two months I finally got the car in the garage. I had to cut down 28 dead trees in my back yard.
They got some kind of bug in them, so all my Ash trees died. Now I have 28 stumps to deal with.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-08-02 10:54 PM (#545419 - in reply to #539736)
Subject: RE: Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman



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Location: So. Cal		That's a lot of firewood! It would be great if you had a wood burning stove to heat up the garage during the winter. Looks good in there.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-08-02 11:24 PM (#545429 - in reply to #545419)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I gave all the wood away. I have a pellet stove in the garage. Still burning the scrap.

This car was in such good, original, condition that I was only going to do the minimum to it.
But it stinks so bad with rat pee. It is in the carpet, seats, glove box, headliner and even in
the firewall insulation. I have to replace it all.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-08-02 11:52 PM (#545435 - in reply to #545429)
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-08-03 12:01 AM (#545437 - in reply to #539736)
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emerald ash borer beetle, they killed all the ash trees in ohio... from China. Nothing can stop them.

You shouldn't move ash borer wood that's infested beyond your local quarantine area. More than likely your already wiped out.

I wonder if its okay to replant ash trees after an area is wiped out?

http://emeraldashborer.info/
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-08-03 9:19 AM (#545473 - in reply to #545437)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Wow. Look at the paint job on that bug. Emerald Ash Borer



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