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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-08-10 9:32 AM (#545944)
Subject: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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What is going on over in India? There has been a lot of Chrysler signs for sale over there.
Are they reproductions?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-08-10 11:08 AM (#545950 - in reply to #545944)
Subject: RE: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2017-08-11 9:18 AM (#545997 - in reply to #545950)
Subject: RE: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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What gets me is that, when you ask them about it, they will, flat out, lie to you.
Do they not have any morals?

Here is what I came across. Two signs, two different sellers (probably from the same house). But
check out the wear marks and the chips. All of them match up.



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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-08-11 9:57 AM (#546001 - in reply to #545944)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?


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Dodge, DeSoto, Plymouth, and Fargo branded vehicles used to be sold in India. While the identical wear marks on these pieces are ample evidence they are reproductions, I'd guess that somewhere in India is one that looks exactly like them that's the original from which they made the copies.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-08-11 11:09 AM (#546004 - in reply to #546001)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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71charger_fan - 2017-08-11 9:57 AM
Dodge, DeSoto, Plymouth, and Fargo branded vehicles used to be sold in India. While the identical wear marks on these pieces are ample evidence they are reproductions, I'd guess that somewhere in India is one that looks exactly like them that's the original from which they made the copies.


I have not been to India but I have been to Sri Lanka where I saw many DODGE vehicles, typically older buses.

You guys need to lighten up and give these guys a break for trying to make a living. There are many more important things to bitch and complain about than nicely done "fake" signs.

Sheesh.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-08-11 12:05 PM (#546011 - in reply to #546004)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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I am a sign guy. Been saving them for longer than I have been
doing old cars.

Fakes (or "reproductions") have a few down sides and a few up
sides, depending on how you look at life.

Lot's of people b!tch like hell that fakes are frauds. Makes sense,
IF you only see signs as money, and someine is selling them for big
dollars under the premise they are old, original signs. But isn't the
REAL problem here that old original signs have attracted the wrong
crowd (the money crowd) and are forcing everyone else out of the
game ??? That's how I see it.

When any subject becomes more about money than about the cool
and "soul" of it's history and integrity, it opens Pandora's Box for
all the fraud and shenanigans that humans are known to do. It is
the cancer of all things ... the corrupt nature of humans and the
medium of dollars.

On the flip side, nicely done signs can create the same ambiance
as old originals, and generally for vastly less money. A secondary
plus is the "shadow" these "fakes" cast across the market of the
over-monied sign snooties and the way it creates "problems" for
the guys who made problems for everyone else in the first place.

Poorly done signs are just tacky and contrived, but a great way
to make identification of people with no historical sense easy to
spot.
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LostDeere59
Posted 2017-08-11 2:12 PM (#546017 - in reply to #546011)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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I agree with Doc Desoto

While I would LOVE to have some really cool old signs around my garage space, as we all know there's just too many "money" guys buying them up - for whatever reasons they have. I can't fault them for that - it's their money, and their hobby (or business).

Unfortunately that leaves me (and guys like me) with few options. I could spend a billion dollars on a real sign, and not have money for other things, OR I can buy a repop from someplace and be perfectly happy with the look, and comfortable with the knowledge it's not a real one. For me it's close enough.

Do I vet my vendors, and make sure they're doing business the "right" way? Hell no - I buy what I like for a price I think is fair. I don't care about who/where/how . . . just that what I pay for is good for me. Of course if a vendor is trying to get authentic money for a fake I'm not interested - because it's out of my budget anyhow.

And I agree with Doc's sentiment that if the "money" guys hadn't driven the prices out of sight, no one would bother to fake the item in the first place.


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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-08-12 1:09 AM (#546048 - in reply to #546017)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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Going a little different direction with the sign discussion, ....
For the longest time I was taken with the tide and liked the
same "popular" signage that everyone else went for ... the
usual gas signs, car signs, Coca-Cola, etc.

Anymore, I like the odd ones for common items. Just last
week I picked one up that reads Sweet-Orr Trousers, ... "the
best". I have another cool one for shoes. The kind of stuff
often seen in old 1910-era photos of street scenes. They go
well with the early lighting and Victorian stained glass.
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mwarsh1
Posted 2017-08-12 7:35 PM (#546083 - in reply to #545944)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?


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signs like old nos car parts have increased, you could have bought a 1959 desoto convertible in 1980 for 500 since here was no demand. you could have a bought a nos chrysler plymouth sign for 100 dollars its like anything else supply and demand.
guys are paying 100k for cars taht they wanted in high school and only cost 3000 new.

porcelain signs are cheaper for how rare they are. the diamond business is the total opposite supply forever but since its controlled by debeers they limit the supply.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-06-30 2:16 PM (#565833 - in reply to #546083)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?



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I just did a search for Porcelain Signs, on Epay. Most of the signs are from India. I think that they have
cornered the market on reproduction porcelain signs. These are newly made signs that have been chipped
and aged. These are not original used signs from the 1930s, 40s or 50s. Please stop lying about that.
These are nicely made signs, if you like that aged look, but please don't try to pass them off as originals.
It looks like these people will make just about any sign from the past.
I am surprised that the prices have not come down, now that all of these signs are out there.
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Mike McCandless
Posted 2018-06-30 9:26 PM (#565840 - in reply to #545944)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?


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Fake signs are a real problem. On ebay for sure, but even at shows. I've added a lot of signs over the past few months and without the help of an expert, I would have gotten myself into trouble. Buyer beware.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-07-01 1:21 AM (#565844 - in reply to #545944)
Subject: Re: Is there fake Chrysler signs in India?


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I'm sure there is plenty of americans in on this racket and man China needs to get in on it

But I mean they say they are from India, I assume its fake then :0
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