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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-08-04 3:07 PM (#601690 - in reply to #560824)
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Does anyone here have photos of Crocket Bros DeSoto/Plymouth-in Fresno California? I can’t find much online
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Posted 2020-08-04 3:42 PM (#601692 - in reply to #601690)
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Does anyone here have photos of Crocket Bros DeSoto/Plymouth-in Fresno California? I can’t find much online


Like this? At 1501 Broadway, Fresno?

https://desoto.org/dealers/

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Posted 2020-08-04 3:59 PM (#601693 - in reply to #601692)
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Hi,yep. That’s really the only photo I was able to find online of the place. I was hoping maybe someone had some pictures of the lot or showroom when the 57’s and 58’s were out.
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RDP
Posted 2020-08-09 8:38 AM (#601819 - in reply to #560824)
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Guys , this is my dealership list (in the attachment). Over 2,000 individual numbers, you can sort it alphabetically or by numbers.
Pay attention the note in the upper right corner. Also on the right you will find region numbers.
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Posted 2020-08-09 10:11 AM (#601821 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks for the list! Some info you can add to it: Withnell Dodge, 2650 Commercial SE. Salem, OR. They are still in business and sold my '60 New Yorker. On my build card, the dealer number is listed as 56440 and that's what I used to dig up a list of active Chrysler dealerships (probably compiled after 2008 when many went under) here. https://www.autonews.com/assets/pdf/Chryslerdealersremain.pdf
This list may give you more information that you can use to fill out anything missing in your list.


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56D500boy
Posted 2020-08-09 11:10 AM (#601825 - in reply to #601821)
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Thanks for posting your spreadsheet Robert and the pdf link Nathan. Good info both.

Trouble is neither of those have a dealer 53818 in/around Denver where Tim Dupont's 56 D500-1 was delivered.

The search continues

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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-08-10 12:50 AM (#601854 - in reply to #601819)
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Guys , this is my dealership list (in the attachment). Over 2,000 individual numbers, you can sort it alphabetically or by numbers.
Pay attention the note in the upper right corner. Also on the right you will find region numbers.
Have fun.


My 300F came from Roy Burnett Motors in Portland, you have it listed as Roy Barnett but Burnett is the correct spelling. The region code is 72. They switched from Pontiac/Oakland to DeSoto in 1929.

I have written up the history of the dealership on my site at - https://300f.com/8403150442_burnett.htm

My '60 New Yorker Town & Country was sold new at Max Barrish Inc. at 4th and LaBrea in Los Angeles.

A friend's '60 New Yorker Town & Country was sold new at Main Street Motor Sales, Crookston, MN, Region 53, dealer code 53480

He also has a '60 300F and was a promotional car so not sold at a dealer. Region 15, Dealer code 82040. I know of another 300F promotional car that has the same codes.

I can probably come up with more.
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Posted 2020-08-10 10:18 AM (#601861 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks all.
Nick, I corrected Burnett and added to the list of the others. It will be available in some time.
Any infos is appreciated.

When using the table, you may notice that several numbers need confirmation.



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Posted 2020-08-25 1:46 AM (#602515 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-08-30 2:42 AM (#602723 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-09-19 5:47 AM (#603315 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-09-19 5:48 AM (#603316 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-09-19 5:49 AM (#603317 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-09-19 5:50 AM (#603318 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-09-19 5:51 AM (#603319 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-09-19 5:52 AM (#603320 - in reply to #560824)
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-09-19 11:34 AM (#603328 - in reply to #603320)
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The sign is gone and they have new neighbours but the building is still there (2019) at 1714 4th St San Rafael CA and it is still "Jack L. Hunt"

Then (1956?)



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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-09-19 11:36 AM (#603329 - in reply to #603315)
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Jack L. Hunt, 1714 Fourth St., San Rafael, CA


Looks like they went all out painting those billboards on the side of the building. I also like the photos of them installing the sign.
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Posted 2020-09-22 2:13 PM (#603476 - in reply to #603328)
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Found these today while looking for something else:





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Posted 2020-09-22 2:45 PM (#603479 - in reply to #603476)
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Found these today while looking for something else:



I'll take one of each of the Imperial, Town & Country and 300F! Check out the classified ad from 5/1/1960. Although the car in the picture appears to have a white interior.



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Posted 2020-09-22 3:56 PM (#603481 - in reply to #560824)
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More Dimmette...




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RDP
Posted 2020-09-23 10:26 AM (#603520 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks guys, but most of these pics are posted on previous pages - Henderson, Hamilton, Dimmette, Garden State.
I try to show photos from the FL era, but all are welcome.

Downtown it's actually a car museum, the building was built for Sadler Chrysler-Plymouth.

https://www.tomstrongman.com/ClassicCars/JimRaysik/Index.htm
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Posted 2020-10-10 3:09 PM (#604294 - in reply to #560824)
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Jacobs Motor Co., Plank Road, Altoona, PA



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Posted 2020-10-11 10:06 AM (#604315 - in reply to #560824)
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I have some old photos I will try to attach. I saw this forum when searching the internet and thought I would share what I have if I can get them posted.
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Posted 2020-10-11 12:30 PM (#604320 - in reply to #560824)
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Awesome Gtuf, we'll look forward to them. They need to be under 250KB and in .JPG format, not .JPEG.
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Posted 2020-10-23 1:23 PM (#604822 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-11-09 7:50 AM (#605437 - in reply to #560824)
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Jay Motors,

Jim Clark Motors, Lawrence, KS.





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Posted 2020-12-02 1:21 PM (#606278 - in reply to #560824)
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Jim Rose, 115 Petaluma Blvd. South, Petaluma, CA

Van Benschoten, 165 Smith St., Poughkeepsie, NY

Johnny Baxter Plymouth, Omaha, NB



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Posted 2020-12-02 4:41 PM (#606288 - in reply to #560824)
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This is one of my favourite threads Robert! Thanks' for all your research and work for to share this interesting findings!
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Posted 2020-12-04 2:08 AM (#606344 - in reply to #604294)
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Jacobs Motor Co., Plank Road, Altoona, PA


That's a 1934 Imperial with the 1935 style hood that Chrysler offered to owners who wanted to upgrade the looks of their 1934 cars.
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Posted 2020-12-22 1:02 PM (#606976 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2021-01-09 8:10 AM (#607536 - in reply to #560824)
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Jingst Motor Sales, Keokuk, IA


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Posted 2021-01-09 8:12 AM (#607537 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2021-01-09 8:13 AM (#607538 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2021-01-17 4:50 AM (#607800 - in reply to #560824)
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I found a very interesting thread.
Many thanks Mr. PeugFra, great job! La ringrazio molto!

https://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar-forum/threads/old-dealer-codes....


Some time ago I was able to confirm one of the codes:



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Posted 2021-01-17 5:11 AM (#607801 - in reply to #560824)
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And another interesting page: https://pressbooks.ulib.csuohio.edu/evolution-of-local-dealerships/c...

a few quotes:

-" than in December 1955 when De Soto unveiled its latest effort. Dubbed “Quality Dealer Program,” this new repair program aimed at expanding its current customer-base, while increasing the profit ratios for its nearly 3,000 dealers" (only De Soto dealers)

- "in April 1957 when they signed a new agreement pertaining to both franchise renewals and new car sales quotas. It affected nearly 9,000 franchises." (all dealers)

-"Although the decade of the 1960s experienced a marked decline in the number of domestic automobile manufacturers that negative business trend had no effect on the Chrysler Corporation as its number of it domestic franchises reached 6,200."

so we're only looking for 7,000 codes to complete
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Posted 2021-01-17 12:56 PM (#607811 - in reply to #560824)
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The man squatting on the left in the last '56 Dodge photo is IMCA stock car racing champion Ernie Derr, from Keokuk, Iowa. When I worked at a Mopar dealership in Minot, ND, our Dodge store sponsored him every year at the North Dakota State Fair dirt track race. The Chrysler-Plymouth side sponsored another IMCA champion, Ramo Stott in his Plymouth. Really makes me feel old!

The photo is of our dealership's old building. They had moved to a new building a couple blocks away when I worked there. Something sort of unique about the old building is that the newer used cars were in a heated parking garage on the second level. That was where I bought my '53 Plymouth in the winter of 1958. With temps below zero, it was nice shopping inside!

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Posted 2021-01-22 1:57 AM (#608007 - in reply to #607811)
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Corwin-Churchill, Chrysler Plymouth, 414-418 North Pacific, Fargo, North Dakota.

The old building is gone (damaged by fire in November 2003- might have been arson) - but there there is still a Corwin Chrysler (-Dodge) in Fargo.

https://www.corwinchryslerdodge.com/

The last image has been reused by some current eBay Mopar Parts sellers (I've seen it before)


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Posted 2021-01-30 9:38 AM (#608354 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2021-02-13 9:25 AM (#608845 - in reply to #560824)
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J. A. Seitzinger, 450 S Lehigh Ave, Frackville, PA

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Posted 2021-03-06 10:38 AM (#609545 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2021-03-26 1:42 PM (#610393 - in reply to #560824)
Subject: Re: dealership pics and info - FL era



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Joscelyn Motors Corp., 9901 Washington Blvd., Culver City, CA



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Posted 2021-03-26 6:08 PM (#610396 - in reply to #560824)
Subject: RE: dealership pics and info - FL era


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Reply to 574068 and 574073

RDP and 56D500boy:

My 60 Adventurer build card shows region 72 (Portland, OR) and dealer number 92723. It was order number 001 on 9/22/59. I don't know anything about that dealer. Do either of you have information that might identify the dealer? My daughter and sister both live in Portland and I'll be going to visit on April 15th. It would be fun to see if the dealer is still there.  Thanks.  Great thread!

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Posted 2021-03-27 2:03 AM (#610410 - in reply to #560824)
Subject: Re: dealership pics and info - FL era



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Sorry Doug, I saw your question in the "Dealer codes" thread. Unfortunately, I do not know this dealer number.
It's probably a car bank or other corporate number.
I know about twenty 9xxxx numbers, almost all of them is corporate numbers. However, two of them are dealer numbers.


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59 SportSub - 2021-01-29 5:40 PM

Billohio - 2014-11-16 6:27 PM

Thought I would add what was found on my 300g.
81101- pool, chrysler central operations- Detroit. 341 mass. Ave. highland park


Very interesting. My '59 Firedome Sportsman 4 dr was sold at Ben Hurley in Seaford, Delaware.

Dealer #: 81101
Region: 15


Similar situation I think. Dealer picked up car from a sales bank, not by the factory order.
Therefore, the code of the sales bank or other corporate institution appears on the IBM card.
However, the sales invoice, warranty card is issued by the seller. So, the dealer name appears in conjunction with the corporate code.
Probably all 8xxxx and 9xxxx codes are corporate codes.
I have to correct it in my table.

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Douglas
Posted 2021-03-27 12:01 PM (#610422 - in reply to #560824)
Subject: RE: dealership pics and info - FL era


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RDP: is it possible then that my Adventurer never got to Portland, but went through some type of corporate ordering/transfer and ended up in Great Bend, Kansas (Marmie Motors) where it was sold to Mr. and Mrs. Reid (who I believe were the original owners) and where I bought it in 2012? Marmie Motors is still there but under a different name I believe. They have no records that go back that far.

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Posted 2021-03-27 12:31 PM (#610424 - in reply to #560824)
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72 Portland means an area not only a city.
Maybe your car was a show car or something like that later sold through Marmie Motors? It was certainly not ordered by Marmie Motors.
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Posted 2021-03-27 3:37 PM (#610433 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks very much for your help.
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Posted 2021-04-16 1:21 PM (#611149 - in reply to #560824)
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Kay Motors, St. Louis Park, MN



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Posted 2021-05-08 1:20 PM (#611832 - in reply to #560824)
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(1,2) Key Motors, 125 SE 5th, Evansville, IN
(3) Key Motors, Greensburg
(4) Key Motors, 1000 W. Jefferson, Dallas, TX



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Posted 2021-06-06 1:26 AM (#612485 - in reply to #560824)
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a pair of nice ashtrays from Kincheloe Motor Sales



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