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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-15 11:54 PM (#568507)
Subject: How Big Can I Fit on 60 New Yorker?


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Hey guys
Im looking at a set of wheels for my 1960 New Yorker.

Front 255/50-17 on a 8 " rim with 4.5" backspace
rear 275/50-17 on a 9 " rim with 5" backspace

Will these fit without any aggro, rubbing, or disconnecting anything to remove and replace.

Thanks for any help.
Cheers

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59 in Calif
Posted 2018-08-16 6:42 PM (#568536 - in reply to #568507)
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17" ??????? You can't possibly be serious. A 15" wheel with 235/75R-15 tires will look really nice with no interference issues. Jerry
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mstrug
Posted 2018-08-16 6:57 PM (#568541 - in reply to #568507)
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You might want to rent one of those tire sizing tools from a custom shop in you area.. Then you can figure out the absolute correct size without guessing and buying expensive shoes.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-08-16 10:14 PM (#568547 - in reply to #568541)
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-17 3:27 AM (#568551 - in reply to #568536)
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59 in Calif - 2018-08-17 9:42 AM

17" ??????? You can't possibly be serious. A 15" wheel with 235/75R-15 tires will look really nice with no interference issues. Jerry


Absolutely serious, why wouldnt I be?
Would 18's be better

Im running 235/75-14 now
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-17 3:28 AM (#568552 - in reply to #568547)
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Lancer Mike - 2018-08-17 1:14 PM

If you do a lift kit, the sky's the limit!

 



Its dropped 2"
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wizard
Posted 2018-08-17 5:46 AM (#568554 - in reply to #568507)
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To each his own, but with a drop of 2", fat low profile tires and oversized rims, the ride might be a dissapointment.

I hear lots of complaint about bad roadability on their GM cars with prarie schooner rims and low profile tires. Youngster like the looks and can tolerate the "exciting driving experience"

I presume that the torsion bars have been adjusted out of specs, so check the camber, it might be totally off with that kind of drop.

Save the original rims and white wall tires, you'll eventually like to mount them again…...
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-17 6:37 AM (#568556 - in reply to #568507)
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To each their own I guess, thanks for the wisdom

 

 

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Posted 2018-08-17 8:15 AM (#568559 - in reply to #568507)
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That's Herman, he normally goes straight ahead on the strip

The camber angles are perhaps too much for low profile tires.

Let's see if Herman kicks in with his experience of the low ride
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Posted 2018-08-17 11:47 AM (#568565 - in reply to #568507)
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According to that site, the rear tires you are choosing are nominally taller but not enough to make a difference. Tape measure the wheel tub and if there is clearance for the width. The fronts are shorter and only slightly wider. You should have no problems fitting those if there is width in the wheel tub. Honestly, I can't remember off the top of my head.
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2018-08-18 5:57 PM (#568608 - in reply to #568507)
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I can drive all day in and around town with speedbumps and all with the '60 NY and not hit anything underneath.
The rear tires will rub very slightly when taking a sharp corner a little too quickly.
A better front swaybar could prevent that but I'm aware of it and drive accordingly.




My '65 300 convertible has 275/50/17" on the rear-axle without any issues.
Proper wheel-offset is king.
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-19 3:24 AM (#568624 - in reply to #568608)
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BigBlockMopar - 2018-08-19 8:57 AM

I can drive all day in and around town with speedbumps and all with the '60 NY and not hit anything underneath.
The rear tires will rub very slightly when taking a sharp corner a little too quickly.
A better front swaybar could prevent that but I'm aware of it and drive accordingly.




My '65 300 convertible has 275/50/17" on the rear-axle without any issues.
Proper wheel-offset is king.


Very nice
Would love to see more pictures, looks great.

The 9" rims have a 5" backspace, the 8" rim has 4.5" backspace.
Would you consider this to be ok?

Stock 6.5" rims Ive got have 4.5" offset.

TIA for any help.
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2018-08-19 4:34 AM (#568626 - in reply to #568507)
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The backspacing sounds about right.
It's better to have slightly too much backspacing than too little. Too much backspacing can be solved with a thin machined spacer.

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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-19 5:04 AM (#568627 - in reply to #568626)
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BigBlockMopar - 2018-08-19 7:34 PM

The backspacing sounds about right.
It's better to have slightly too much backspacing than too little. Too much backspacing can be solved with a thin machined spacer.



Many thanks
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Posted 2018-08-20 2:45 PM (#568707 - in reply to #568507)
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Years ago...I ran 15" by 8" Aluminum wheels with 5" back spacing and L60 tires and had no problems on a 61 Chrysler Picture and part number for 300 G wheel,
Back spacing is 4"
Might not be relative today.

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1960fury
Posted 2018-08-20 3:16 PM (#568710 - in reply to #568624)
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1coolbanana - 2018-08-19 3:24 AM



Stock 6.5" rims Ive got have 4.5" offset.

TIA for any help.


Offset? Not possible. Stock offset for these cars is usually 0.5". With 4.5" offset you couldn't even mount the wheels.
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2018-08-20 4:38 PM (#568715 - in reply to #568507)
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There's also a big difference in "offset" and "backspacing".

I recall my '64 NewYorker Salon had 6.5" wide wheels on it.
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-20 5:03 PM (#568716 - in reply to #568710)
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1960fury - 2018-08-21 6:16 AM

1coolbanana - 2018-08-19 3:24 AM



Stock 6.5" rims Ive got have 4.5" offset.

TIA for any help.


Offset? Not possible. Stock offset for these cars is usually 0.5". With 4.5" offset you couldn't even mount the wheels.


My apologies, I meant back space


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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2018-08-22 2:24 PM (#568848 - in reply to #568507)
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The tires in the photo above of my '60 NY are just under 300mm wide., but I just found some older pics of the 325/15" Mickey Thompson tires I had tried on the car;
I fits, but barely.



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Posted 2018-08-22 2:25 PM (#568850 - in reply to #568507)
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Same 325mm wheels on my '62 NY wagon;




And on the '59 Dodge Coronet;




Can you tell I like to experiment with large tires?


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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-22 4:47 PM (#568859 - in reply to #568507)
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Thanks for the pictures!
Thats awesome :-)
What is the rim width and back space youve used?
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Posted 2018-08-22 5:02 PM (#568863 - in reply to #568507)
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Custom widened and backspaced wheel with 9" width. I seem to recall, at the time I made a calculation error and relied too much on the shop's experience doing the widening. As a result the backspacing of this pair of wheels was a little too much, and I had to run thin spacers to keep the tires from rubbing the leafsprings. Been a long time.

IMO Chrysler positioned their wheels halfway in the available wheel-well, so 'usually' the 'proper' backspacing is half the wheel-width, with a little extra added to that. About 1/4" I think.
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-08-22 5:22 PM (#568864 - in reply to #568507)
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The 9" rims Im looking at have a 5" backspace.
The 8's have 4.5" which appears to be what the original 6.5" rims are.

Sounds like it should be about right I hope but maybe the 8's are a bit big for the front?

Many thanks and I love the look of your cars :-)
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Posted 2018-08-22 7:43 PM (#568871 - in reply to #568507)
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I run 8" wide wheels on the front of my '58 Dodge. They are tight, but do work.

Zero offset is where the mounting point is equally spaced inside to outside. Zero offset is equivalent to 1/2 wheel width + 0.5" for backspace. So a perfectly centered 9" wheel would have a 5" backspace.... i.e. 4.5 + 0.5 = 5.
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Posted 2018-08-23 1:18 PM (#568905 - in reply to #568507)
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I usually run upto 235/60 tires up front on my cars.
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-09-08 1:57 AM (#569798 - in reply to #568507)
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275 on a 9" rim Cragars worked ok luckily.
Wanted 4.4 - 5.0 backspace but ended up with 3.75.

Just squeezed in nicely but would prefer bit more backspace.
Plenty clearance on the inside, barely a finger on the outside.

8's on the fron with 235



Edited by 1coolbanana 2018-09-08 2:01 AM
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2018-09-08 6:02 AM (#569804 - in reply to #568507)
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Shiny!

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Posted 2018-09-08 2:33 PM (#569816 - in reply to #568507)
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Great car CoolBanana, love the white over purple. The 1960 Chryslers and DeSotos are about the best looking 4 door sedans ever made. How long have you had this car? Is it pretty stock?
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1coolbanana
Posted 2018-09-09 5:33 AM (#569838 - in reply to #569816)
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jboymechanic - 2018-09-09 5:33 AM

Great car CoolBanana, love the white over purple. The 1960 Chryslers and DeSotos are about the best looking 4 door sedans ever made. How long have you had this car? Is it pretty stock?


Havent had it that long but I reckon Ive put about 1000 hours into it so far!

Its mostly stock apart from from dress up bits.
Lots more to do as more funds become availaable, actually, does it ever end?
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Posted 2018-09-09 8:51 AM (#569842 - in reply to #569816)
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jboymechanic - 2018-09-08 8:33 PM

Great car CoolBanana, love the white over purple. The 1960 Chryslers and DeSotos are about the best looking 4 door sedans ever made. How long have you had this car? Is it pretty stock?



In 1960, the roof, front window and rear window was the same for the 4 door sedan and the 4 door hardtop. This makes the sedan appears just as sleep as the 4 door hardtop.

The earlier "turtleback" sedans had higher windows/roof and looks somewhat out of propotion
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