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Powerflite
Posted 2019-08-25 6:13 PM (#586554 - in reply to #572778)
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Thanks Sid, I do my best with it. Sometimes it comes out great, and sometimes I have to start over and try again. Yesterday was a start over again kind of day. I spent quite a bit of time bending a new patch for the left side middle body mount, welded it into place and cleaned up the welds. The repair went into the rounded recess portion of the mount because that was rusted out. It also included most of the downward turn (more than the picture shows - after tapping it with a hammer, it all fell out.) so it wasn't easy to make a patch that fit - let alone look decent. After getting it done, I hated it. It looked like something a giant would have blown out his nose. So I got my son to help me drag the 4dr hardtop floor I parted out to extract the mount from it. It will need to be repaired on the end because it is rusted a little, but not nearly as bad as the one on the car. Repairing it this way is going to be difficult because I will need to lift the body at least another 5 inches to get enough room to do it. But I may just cut the floor up from above and install it that way since the floor needs repair in this area anyway. I'll decide when I get closer to it.



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Powerflite
Posted 2019-08-27 1:02 PM (#586645 - in reply to #572778)
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The replacement part shown on the floorpan above was rather disappointing. Once cleaned up it proved to be quite rusty around the round body mount. But the inner, round, mount-like section is quite good. The flat section of this floor brace is tall on the outside, short in between and tall on the inside again. So I just have to turn it around to match the proper contour of the outer body mount and splice them together to make something that matches the original. This is the easy part, but removing the old one from the car & replacing it is going to be quite fun.



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Powerflite
Posted 2019-08-30 1:36 PM (#586791 - in reply to #572778)
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I finished splicing the body mount together and repairing the rusted corner on it. Cleaning up the repair on the corner was the hardest part because of the tight contours in that area, but it wasn't bad with a tungsten-carbide burr on a die grinder. The distance from the outer vertical part to the body mount is 4.5", but it is easy to get the angle a little off, so I had to hold it up the other spare original to get it in the right position. I think this turned out really well, and I feel a lot better about it than the repair I did on the car. This is going to look a lot better.



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Posted 2019-08-30 2:30 PM (#586794 - in reply to #586791)
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Some really nice work, Nathan!
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-02-26 2:58 PM (#594863 - in reply to #572778)
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Thanks Danny. I decided to swap frames yet again on this car. I have this '57 New Yorker frame that is in better shape than the '57 Windsor frame I put under the car. And the frame number on the New Yorker frame matches the motor number of the 392 that I'm putting into the car. Better shape, New Yorker (instead of Windsor), & matching motor number convinced me that I was using the wrong frame. I really didn't want to go to all the trouble to clean this one up, but I forced myself to do it. I didn't disassemble the suspension first as I want it to track straight without having to get an alignment on it, but I cleaned it up the best I could. I left any undercoating on it that wouldn't come off easily as well. Next I'll paint it black, swap the disc brakes onto it and put it under the car.



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57burb
Posted 2020-02-26 3:29 PM (#594866 - in reply to #594863)
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You swap frames like I swap underwear, LOL! I may be mistaken, but I think the Hemi cars got a few heavy-duty reinforcements over the Windsor/Saratogas.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-02-26 6:13 PM (#594877 - in reply to #572778)
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If only I had the foresight, I would have waited until this one became available. As far as the differences, I haven't found anything physically different between them. They even use the same size sway bar & torsion bars, which I expected to be different between them. The 300 cars seem to be the only ones with stiffer bars.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-02-27 4:20 PM (#594916 - in reply to #572778)
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Cleaning out the dirt and pebbles out of the frame. I lifted it to get gravity working in my favor, but I think I will use the engine puller to lift it even higher. I would have preferred to hang it over the side of a cliff, but I don't have air or water resources there. I'm using air first to dry blow it out of there, and then I will use a large volume of water and run it through. I've already removed quite a bit of the stuff, but hopefully I can get it pretty clean inside there.

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Powerflite
Posted 2020-02-27 7:28 PM (#594921 - in reply to #572778)
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Got the nose pointed up a little higher this way. Got quite a bit of dirt out of it with the air and then let the water run until it was clear. I had to plug all the holes before the up-turn first with an assortment of corks so the water would flow all the way to the back. I think it is mostly clean now. Probably not enough to eat your dinner off it, but enough to prevent rust from building. I blew it all out after washing to help dry it off. The hot sun should do the rest.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-02-27 10:32 PM (#594933 - in reply to #572778)
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must be nice to have good fricking weather... im so jealous
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Posted 2020-02-27 11:11 PM (#594935 - in reply to #572778)
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I wish I was Nathan's neighbor.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-02-28 12:48 AM (#594941 - in reply to #572778)
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I wish I was too! My lot where I park most of my cars is next to his house. If I lived there, I could build a giant garage!
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22mafeja
Posted 2020-02-28 3:02 AM (#594942 - in reply to #594941)
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That`s a very good point Nathan..haha
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ToMopar
Posted 2020-02-28 3:18 AM (#594944 - in reply to #572778)
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Nathan, you are a crazy guy with good helpful ideas. I wish to be a neighbor too, so than we could build a giant garage together for the craziest guys

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Powerflite
Posted 2020-02-28 11:19 AM (#594948 - in reply to #572778)
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Right on Tom! I think some of my neighbors do think I am suffering from some mental disorder.

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Posted 2020-02-29 11:11 PM (#595012 - in reply to #572778)
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"Moparitis" is what your mental disorder is. I think we all have a bit of it and it is contagious.
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Posted 2020-03-01 10:10 AM (#595025 - in reply to #572778)
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Posted 2020-03-01 11:54 AM (#595027 - in reply to #572778)
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Yes, for sure! I finished swapping the frames last night. I started around 4:30PM after playing with my Fireflite most of the day. I probably should have waited for another day, but I wanted to do it while I had my willing victim ... I mean my son, available to help me. It gave me a lot more trouble than the last time. I have the right side lower quarter cut up now so it isn't as strong as it was before. I knew that, but wanted to get it done anyway. That caused it to bend my new inner panel a bit, but I clamped it together to give it as much strength as I could. Fortunately, it is just flat metal at that point so it's easy to fix the bend that I created. But I needed to get the front part of the body higher than I had it to roll the front section of the frame under there. While lifting it, the body went sliding sideways and I almost lost it. But the middle sawhorse caught it to prevent it from crashing to the pavement. That wasn't a fun moment, so I decided to leave it where it was and just remove the drums & backing plates to make the frame sit lower. Now the car sits a little sideways on my driveway as a result, but it isn't bad, so I'll just leave it like that.

I set the body a little higher on the frame than before so I could work on that last body mount easier. The one side of the old frame is missing a wheel because all my other spare 15" wheels still don't clear the disc brakes for some reason. They must be older versions, made before disc brakes came out, so I rolled the frame around with only 3 wheels. The fun didn't seem to want to end last night, but I'm happy it's done.



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22mafeja
Posted 2020-03-02 3:16 AM (#595062 - in reply to #572778)
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Very interesting to watch the lifting stages when body and frame are moved. I have also had many exciting moments on my backyard where I lift off bodies with my little farm tractor with
front loader. I won`t lift anything unless I am abslolutely alone. People always want to advice and in a critical moment that is unbearable...
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Posted 2020-03-18 4:53 PM (#595727 - in reply to #572778)
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A little farm tractor would make it easier, I think. I thought about using my engine hoist to lift it, but it gets in the way and I don't thing it's stable enough for this.

I swapped the discs and all 4 shocks between frames and got the front end back onto it and moved the Windsor frame to my other lot. Today is a solid day without rain so I wanted to tackle getting the last body mount fixed on this so I could set the body down. The previous mid body mount that I had fixed on the driver side didn't look great, but it isn't as bad as I had first thought really, so I am thinking of leaving it as it is since I don't have a lot of time to redo it just for cosmetic reasons. Also, this last one needs gobs of work. so I would spend my time better by fixing it instead. So I cut the temporary rocker patch panel back off the car in the rear section and am now working on taking things apart so I can straighten & repair the inner rocker that is badly bent and rusted before I fix the floor above it, and the body mount itself.



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Posted 2020-03-20 12:24 AM (#595776 - in reply to #572778)
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I finished the first part of the repair today by replacing the vertical part of the inner rocker. I was able to straighten the old one, but it needed to be replaced because of the rust that was on it as well. After I had cut the new replacement floor brace from Finland to fit on the car, I found that it was narrower than the original one so it would leave an annoying step in it at the splice point. Also, the head of it is quite a bit smaller than the original one so if you compare from side to side on the car, it would look weird. For those reasons, I decided to repair the original one instead. So I am working on that now.



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22mafeja
Posted 2020-03-20 1:20 AM (#595778 - in reply to #595776)
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That`s some heroic work Nathan. I have also found that it easily leaves a step between the end of the reinforcement braces although they are homemade.
There is always some additional cutting and welding before it is about ok.
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Posted 2020-03-21 12:10 AM (#595813 - in reply to #595778)
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Thanks Ralf. I spent a good part of the day repairing this floor brace. I had to make it out of 3 sections because I didn't have a repair section that was long enough to do the whole thing, and the middle section is more rusty than the others so you can tell. Oh well. I had to do quite a bit of repair to the head of it to get it in acceptable condition, and tried to make it look as untouched as possible. I think I mostly succeeded. Tomorrow I will work on the rest of the inner rocker and possibly try to mount this brace in place. I am thinking of leaving the floor repair for later, and do it from above instead of from below. Sounds easier.



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Posted 2020-03-21 1:08 AM (#595814 - in reply to #572778)
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im actually kind of envious I like doing that work

I swear i should just do metal repair...
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Posted 2020-03-21 3:50 AM (#595816 - in reply to #595813)
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Looks absolutely good enough. The end where the brace meets the rocker is a bitch to make from scratch! That area of cars is often repaired horribly .
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Posted 2020-03-23 6:37 PM (#595936 - in reply to #572778)
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Mike, you are welcome to drop by my place and do gobs of metalwork to your heart's content! Thanks Ralf for the encouragement. This stuff is slow & tedious & can be discouraging if it doesn't come out as expected. But I'm pretty happy with it. I got it welded up onto the body on Saturday. I still need to clean up the welds on it. It took me much longer than I anticipated to get it in the right position. It wasn't simple doing it upside down, and having to push it up into place due to sagging or bending of the original panels. The procedure that I ended up with was to: 1. bend up the floor panels that were in the way. 2. Weld it to the rest of the brace as straight as possible even though this was hanging down too low. 3. Then push it up into place with the jack to the proper position. It seemed to work out well. I'll take a picture once I get it cleaned up.

My son was nice enough to help me with cleaning up the firewall as I am planning to rebuild the bottom end of the motor and install it in here soon. So I want to get the firewall painted before that happens. Under the heater box was an old mouse's nest and enough soil to plant a healthy victory garden in it. As a result, it rusted out the vent door quite badly, as well as a very small section of the lip where the box mounts. I'll weld that section up to fix it with a piece from the New Yorker parts car, but it's door vent is the A/C type so it won't work here. Fortunately, I still had the door vent from the Windsor sedan that I parted out that should make a nice replacement.



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22mafeja
Posted 2020-03-24 2:35 AM (#595947 - in reply to #595936)
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Nathan , I need a vent door pedal rubber BADLY. I noticed the one on the picture. It doesn`t happen to be available, does it?
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Posted 2020-03-24 4:04 AM (#595949 - in reply to #572778)
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Nathan,- now it pays off that you have so many cars on your yard. Please keep us updated and don't give up. Sometimes is frustrating to work with a bundle of rust, but on the other day it goes in the good direction.
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Posted 2020-03-24 11:54 AM (#595964 - in reply to #572778)
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Ralf, the rubber stays on the body, not on the door and the rubber on my New Yorker is rotted out. The rubber on my New Yorker parts car is missing, and the Windsor body is no longer here, so I don't even have a good one for myself either. Your best bet is to get one from Quirey Quality Design Co. that took over from Gary Goers. https://quirey-quality-design-co.business.site/ Or you may be able to make something custom from some other seal.

Thanks Tom. Yes, I'm glad I saved most of the parts from the cars I parted. The body parts that I did get rid of from the Windsor I ended up needing later for some other car so I regretted getting rid of any of it (except for it's roof which was garbage).
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Posted 2020-03-25 12:09 AM (#595984 - in reply to #572778)
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I cleaned up the welds on the floor brace tonight. I will drill the hole into it after I set it down on the frame. That way it will be perfectly positioned where it needs to be. I will make it a little smaller than the factory hole though so that it can be widened to perfectly center it on the brace at some later date. This section of the car is a whole lot stronger than it was before and I could set the body down on the frame now, but I want to wait until I get the inner rocker fixed before I do that. The inner rocker will make that section truly solid once it is welded in place.



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Posted 2020-03-26 12:33 AM (#596039 - in reply to #572778)
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My son and I got the firewall mostly cleaned up and welded all the problem spots. The welds came out looking great and I just had to sand blast the remainder of the small sections that I can't get to with a wire wheel. But unfortunately, it started to sprinkle rain on me, and it's going to rain most of the night. So I waited for a break in the rain, dried it off well and primed / sealed it all except the areas that need blasting. I will sand blast the remaining sections tomorrow and seal them after. I will blend the primer in with the next coat of more sandable primer so that doing it in sections won't cause any lines to appear.



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Posted 2020-03-28 12:29 AM (#596142 - in reply to #572778)
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This is an impressive amount of work, and impressive work. Good luck finishing this.

Were did you find the disc brakes? That is one modification I would seriously consider making to the car I'm buying once things are underway.

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Posted 2020-03-28 12:11 PM (#596149 - in reply to #572778)
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Nathan, you need to buy or build a rittiserie to make your work easier.
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Posted 2020-03-28 1:26 PM (#596153 - in reply to #572778)
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The disc brakes are from Scarebird. I've used them a lot and really like how well they stop these large cars. I would love a rotisserie. It would make my life so much easier. I'm not the type of person to care if the underside of the car is clean enough to eat your dinner off of, but there is no doubt a rotisserie would make these things much easier. I just don't have the space to do that. You can see where I am working from. I have to put things back together at least to a large degree to prevent getting into trouble. It's amazing my neighborhood lets me get away with what I do. My garage just can't hold all the laundry, tools, parts & motor rebuilding as well as a car that is too long to fit into it. When I move, I can get a more serious garage. But I don't let any of this stop me from making progress. You live with what you got until you can change it.

This car is a power steering, manual brake car. I prefer the power brake setup for a hemi car so I am swapping the pedal assembly out. The old one also has a broken bolt in it so now I don't have to remove it. First I removed the floor plate & steering column to give me room. Sounds easy, but none of the bolts on that floor plate would take their proper size to remove them. But they did come out with vice grips. Then the pedal assembly came out as easy as can be expected.....which is not that easy. Adding a brake switch to the new one while the pedal assembly is out of the car is a lot easier than doing it under the dash! I am missing one of the plastic bushings at the booster lever. Anyone know where to get replacements?

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22mafeja
Posted 2020-03-29 2:44 AM (#596182 - in reply to #596153)
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Maybe a pneumatic tube would be possible to make bushings from. They use to be polyuretane which might be good enough.
Im not sure what the size should be , maybe od 1/2" . Just a thought.

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Posted 2020-03-29 12:26 PM (#596193 - in reply to #572778)
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A funny thing happened yesterday. I knocked out a rust hole in the bottom of the rocker and started smacking it to knock the dirt out of there. After a while, it got plugged with something plastic. I pulled it out, and it was my other bushing for the power brake pedal assembly!! Problem solved! I had stored that assembly in the car for quite a while and the bushing must have come off at some point and rolled down into the rocker. Most of the time when small parts take off into never never land, you never see them again, but this time it re-appeared right when I noticed it was gone.

I sandblasted all the inner areas that I couldn't reach with the wire wheel. I had to clean sand out of everything for a while afterward. I didn't clean the lower part of the firewall because I would need to replace the floor later on, but I realized that most of what I see would not end up being replaced. So I fixed a couple of rust issues that were higher up, and sealed that section too. The broken bolt was in the upper part of the firewall, not at the brake pedal assembly (of course) so I drilled and tapped that back out as well and removed the old rusted vent door. Then I sprayed the firewall with a coating of more sandable primer. I am debating if I will finish this now and paint the top coat on here or do that much later. I'm not sure that purchasing paint is worth the risk of getting infected, and I am not currently employed so I don't have a lot of money. So I may leave it like this and put the motor in there now. It means I would have to pull the motor to do it later, but that may not be too much extra work. I'm still debating it....

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Posted 2020-03-31 3:01 PM (#596296 - in reply to #572778)
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I finished fabricating and welding in what I called the inner rocker. It is really an extension of the outer rocker as it goes underneath the quarter panel. This really strengthened up this area. I will now drill a drain hole into it and bend the front edge of it like the factory did. As you can see, the quarter panel needs quite a bit of hammer & dolly work before I can weld it up and finish it. I don't have time for that right now, so I am going to re-attach the temporary cover to it and leave the rest for another time. Setting the body back on the frame is my priority right now.



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Posted 2020-04-04 12:18 AM (#596419 - in reply to #572778)
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I set the body back down on the frame for the first time since I've had it and mounted the rear bumper again. I had to round up a filler panel for it and straighten it because this car didn't include one. Looks weird now sitting at it's proper height. I kinda got used to seeing it jacked up. I also swapped in the power brake pedal assembly & mounted the steering box to the frame to for the first time. Feels good to finally be in control of the front wheels. In order to get the new brake pedal assembly lined up properly, I had to mount the brakes to it. So I went ahead and made up all the new lines for it while the motor is out and cleaned up the booster as well. I'm hoping the front line won't collide with the hemi valve cover too much. We'll see when I put the motor in there. Because all this has to come out again multiple times, I am not putting brake fluid into yet, but it's good to get it all fabricated now.



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Posted 2020-04-04 2:04 AM (#596420 - in reply to #596419)
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Looking good Nathan. Congrats.

Question: What did you paint the metal face of the power brake bellows with? It looks much better than what I did to mine.

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Posted 2020-04-04 2:28 AM (#596421 - in reply to #572778)
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Thanks Dave. It's a concoction of different paints. Starting with a silver base, gold is added before the silver is dry, the red is misted on 2 corners and light blue is misted on the other 2 corners. Then add mist of gold to blend it out. It fools your eyes into thinking it's a zinc plate. But only works from a distance. Looking closer, you can tell it is painted. The silver base helps to lighten up the gold color. It's too dark otherwise. The photo doesn't really capture it either. The bluish corners look a little lighter than the reddish corners, but that's about all you see on it.
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Posted 2020-04-04 9:46 AM (#596429 - in reply to #572778)
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whats the brake bushing look like? i think im missing mine now
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Posted 2020-04-04 10:44 AM (#596430 - in reply to #572778)
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There are two of them on either side of the pin at the end of the pedal, that rides on the long booster tangs. They are a white, almost clear plastic bushing like these. You can see one of them at the top of the pedal in my pedal picture above.



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Posted 2020-04-05 2:10 AM (#596450 - in reply to #596430)
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Powerflite - 2020-04-04 10:44 AM

There are two of them on either side of the pin at the end of the pedal, that rides on the long booster tangs. They are a white, almost clear plastic bushing like these. You can see one of them at the top of the pedal in my pedal picture above.


Those parts look ideal for 3-D printing, assuming an acceptable material can be found. I've played a little with 3-D printing and design, and I know they're developing new stuff every day for it. I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of nylon-based/nylon-like material was in the works.

For little odds and ends like that, I think additive manufacturing offers a lot of promise, and reduced costs in restoration over the long run.

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Posted 2020-04-08 3:13 PM (#596589 - in reply to #572778)
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Those bushings are so simple though, that I think they would be cheaper to make on a lathe than to do in 3D, and the quality would be better that way too.

I'm installing the engine from the '57 New Yorker parts car that matches the frame number for this car. I was able to get it to spin freely, and the bottom end of the motor would probably run fine without touching it, but since it is mostly apart and in my garage, I decided to replace the pistons with higher compression '58 versions. I'll also put in a new cam that is ground to '58 300D specs that I'll run with solid lifters. I'll replace the rings, cam, timing chain, lifters, bearings, do a valve job with new valve springs and gaskets too of course. Basically do a complete rebuild, except keep the stock bore since it has little wear on it. I'll just prep the surface with a ball hone before it goes back together. Hopefully, the crank is within spec so I don't have to grind it down either.

You can see the difference between the stock '58 piston on the left and the '57 version in the motor. The higher compression height is visible from the top of the piston.

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Posted 2020-04-08 7:26 PM (#596596 - in reply to #596421)
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Powerflite - 2020-04-03 11:28 PM
Thanks Dave. It's a concoction of different paints. Starting with a silver base, gold is added before the silver is dry, the red is misted on 2 corners and light blue is misted on the other 2 corners. Then add mist of gold to blend it out. It fools your eyes into thinking it's a zinc plate. But only works from a distance. Looking closer, you can tell it is painted. The silver base helps to lighten up the gold color. It's too dark otherwise. The photo doesn't really capture it either. The bluish corners look a little lighter than the reddish corners, but that's about all you see on it.


I was planning to fake the cadmium plating look using metallic gold, green and some orange but I had issues with the gold so I stopped. I might strip it all off (chemically) and start over with a silver base like you did.

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Posted 2020-04-08 8:29 PM (#596602 - in reply to #572778)
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I bet if you take what you have and dull it up with a *soft* scotchbrite pad, it would look pretty good.

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Posted 2020-04-08 11:25 PM (#596612 - in reply to #596602)
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Powerflite - 2020-04-08 5:29 PM

I bet if you take what you have and dull it up with a *soft* scotchbrite pad, it would look pretty good.


Soft as in "well used" ??? I'll give it go. Easier than the alternatives.

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Posted 2020-04-12 10:16 PM (#596745 - in reply to #572778)
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I went with the higher compression '58 pistons in my '57 354 poly as well. It was neat to see the height difference.
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Posted 2020-04-12 10:55 PM (#596748 - in reply to #596745)
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Do you have a picture of them that you can share? I would like to see them.
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Posted 2020-04-24 4:07 PM (#597294 - in reply to #572778)
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I guess it was a good thing that I decided to tear this engine apart. One of the piston's rings were jammed with gunk for some reason. All the others were fine, and this didn't cause any issue that I can see with the cylinder wall. I wonder if this would have freed itself up eventually or not. But it sure would have caused some massive blow-by in the meantime. Next, I'll spec out the crank & original cam to compare it to the 300D cam that I have for it.



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