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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-05 2:03 PM (#574708)
Subject: 1958 Chrysler Saratoga 2DR HT



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I'm planning to list on Ebay my '58 Saratoga pretty soon but I thought I list it here first as a first pass. It's a great car that I'm just not getting any use out of, nor have I had time to spend on it.

This is the Holes movie car we've discussed on this site in the past. It spent its life in CA until I bought it and brought it to the Houston, Texas area. In the time I have owned it it has always been garaged.

I have a Word document that gives more detail I can send anyone who is interested. I can also send more pics.

As with any car I sell, I will not hide any bad parts or misrepresent anything. I also am willing to assist in an overseas sale. I will not work with any sales agents or brokers or consignment houses, nor will I release the car or title until I have payment in full.

1958 Chrysler Saratoga Spring Special 126" WB
354 Hemi
3 sp auto
3.23 SG 8-3/4" diff
Factory AutoPilot - 1st year for any car, ever
Approx 157K miles from new
Complete mechnical rebuild within last 1000 miles
99% rust free with no rust repairs ever, perfect floor pans and no headlight area rust, never

I am asking $26K which I feel is a fair price and, of course, far less than I have in it.

Please PM if interested!





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StillOutThere
Posted 2018-12-05 7:00 PM (#574730 - in reply to #574708)
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It has the 4-bolt truck exhaust manif with it?? or on it??
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-05 7:04 PM (#574731 - in reply to #574708)
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Yes. They are the repros that Hot Heads was selling...I think they ran out. Now that I think about it, I had them coated by PolyDyn which is why they look like that.
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Posted 2018-12-05 7:19 PM (#574732 - in reply to #574731)
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GregCon - 2018-12-05 6:04 PM Yes. They are the repros that Hot Heads was selling...I think they ran out. Now that I think about it, I had them coated by PolyDyn which is why they look like that.

 

I will check with HOI HEADS to see if they are going to make another run of these 4 bolt Manifolds again. If they spent the money on Molds for these they might do another run of them. I will report back on what they say.

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mstrug
Posted 2018-12-05 7:33 PM (#574733 - in reply to #574708)
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2 sets of norms.... https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=hemi+%28Chrysler%2CDeSoto%2CDo...

cheaper: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=hemi+%28Chrysler%2CDeSoto%2CDo...

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StillOutThere
Posted 2018-12-05 7:33 PM (#574734 - in reply to #574708)
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Hot Heads didn't make them. John Forney had the molds made and cast. He is a machinist and did the final machine work on them. Then he had Hot Heads help him retail them out. Note they have no "bung" for the heat attachment line to go to the choke. Also, they will not clear the suspension and Power steering box of a torsion bar Chrysler. Chrysler cast new manifolds during 1957 with 4-bolt flanges that were "clearanced" to fit the new chassis.
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-06 1:08 PM (#574785 - in reply to #574708)
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Well...the choke part I couldn't care less about lol. As for clearance....I can assure you the car still has T-bars and power steering and most of all I am the absolute last person alive who runs stuff that doesn't clear. Because stuff that rubs is the first sign of shoddy workmanship. Do I have a 'secret'? Perhaps....
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jboymechanic
Posted 2018-12-06 1:24 PM (#574787 - in reply to #574708)
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Greg,

Beautiful car, which is no surprise, if I had the cash it would be mine! I don't want to highjack your thread, so I sent you a PM about some of your engine accessory setup. Good luck with your sale.
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-06 4:01 PM (#574792 - in reply to #574708)
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Thanks Jon!
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-06 4:07 PM (#574793 - in reply to #574708)
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Here is a pic of most of the brackets



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firedome
Posted 2018-12-06 4:23 PM (#574795 - in reply to #574708)
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Seems reasonable for what it is.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-12-06 5:40 PM (#574803 - in reply to #574708)
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Do you have any interior shots Greg? I am much more interested in it than my pocketbook allows me to be.
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-06 9:38 PM (#574818 - in reply to #574708)
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I know how that goes, lol.

Here are some interior shots. I have not done anything to the interior in the time I've owned it other than I had the speedo fully rebuilt. As you can see, the seat covers are non-stock. It looks like they left the originals underneath, I have no idea what they look like.



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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-06 9:43 PM (#574821 - in reply to #574708)
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-07 2:26 PM (#574859 - in reply to #574708)
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More photos. I will restate...the car has no floorpan rust whatsoever and never has had any, ever. There are two small rust areas (one in front of each rear wheel well) and no other rust anywhere on the car.




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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2018-12-07 4:26 PM (#574865 - in reply to #574708)
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Thanks for posting more photos...
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-07 8:43 PM (#574879 - in reply to #574865)
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No problem, hope you received my email too.

Other parts that go with the car...the original Spitfire (Poly) heads, air cleaner, PS pump, driveshaft, rear end, exhaust manifolds, plus other 58 Chrysler bits and pieces. I have a set of front fenders and hood from a parts car I will also include, and...a swivel seat that I bought from a Desoto.



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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-08 5:24 PM (#574896 - in reply to #574708)
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I realized the engine photo has the temporary air cleaner I had on it while I was paining the proper one. Here is a (dusty) photo of it with the air cleaner it has now.



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57burb
Posted 2018-12-09 6:14 PM (#574946 - in reply to #574785)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler Saratoga 2DR HT



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StillOutThere - 2018-12-05 6:33 PM

Also, they will not clear the suspension and Power steering box of a torsion bar Chrysler. Chrysler cast new manifolds during 1957 with 4-bolt flanges that were "clearanced" to fit the new chassis.

GregCon - 2018-12-06 12:08 PM

As for clearance....I can assure you the car still has T-bars and power steering and most of all I am the absolute last person alive who runs stuff that doesn't clear. Because stuff that rubs is the first sign of shoddy workmanship. Do I have a 'secret'? Perhaps....

Probably not an issue since you're running a low-deck 354 versus a tall-deck 392. Here is my '57 Chrysler with '57 392 and power steering running the 'clearanced' version of the 4-bolt manifolds. I put in a couple of shims to increase the clearance from what you see here, but it's still very tight. No rubbing.

Good luck with your sale, Greg. I called the previous owner right after you had bought it. Great car.



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StillOutThere
Posted 2018-12-09 8:09 PM (#574956 - in reply to #574708)
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A pair of the '57-58 4-bolt manifolds



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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-09 9:46 PM (#574961 - in reply to #574708)
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Lol that's my secret! The low deck. Well, imagine the car when you called on it with a lot more money and time spent on it, and that's it.
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billy
Posted 2018-12-13 11:38 AM (#575168 - in reply to #574708)
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Very nice ride...good luck with the sale...hey Greg...are those 14 or 15" tires on there? How wide is the whitewall? where did the wheels come from? Alot of questions i know, but i'm looking at replacing tires and wheels on my car...
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GregCon
Posted 2018-12-13 8:01 PM (#575198 - in reply to #574708)
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Thanks Billy. They are Diamondbacks which are essentially BF Goodrich tires that they add the whitewalls to. I think they are 3" but I can measure them tomorrow. The wheels are steel rims from Wheel Vintiques. I think they are 15x7 but possibly could be 8"...I've forgotten. The tires are 235/75's. I've been very happy with them.

I will add that if anyone from the FL family buys the car I will throw in a bunch of extra 58 (and a few 57) Chrysler parts. Taillight lenses, front fenders, bumpers, and even a full set of side glasses with nice chrome surrounds. These are all parts I bought 'just in case' I ever needed them; they are not from my car but I'll include them. I also have a very nice frame with rear end, from suspension, and steering gear that can be included at no charge if you want them.
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ToMopar
Posted 2018-12-14 5:48 AM (#575216 - in reply to #574708)
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Hi Greg,

I wonder if you give up your whole fwd-look hobby because you give all the parts with the vehicle......
even the frame .......
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