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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-26 10:02 AM (#575827)
Subject: Shocks for a 61


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Looking to buy a good shock for my 300. Not interested in Gabriels, Monroes or Kayabas. Was thinking about Bilsteins, Koni's etc. The Classic Koni's are twin tube and I am wanting monotube Any experience out there? Is it the same s-10 front shock like the 57-58's run? The car wallows around and yaws so badly in a crosswind I was thinking about putting a string on the hood. A lot of it is the 8.00-15 "looks like a bias ply" coker parade ground tires but the shocks are ancient so they are part of it. Looking to run the Diamond back WW 255/70/15 that's built off the radial T/A, That should stiffen things up a bit. I'm wanting this thing to drive like a 300 not a town car.
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Mopar1
Posted 2018-12-26 10:18 AM (#575830 - in reply to #575827)
Subject: Re: Shocks for a 61



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On my '60 Plym I used KYB KG4507 on the front & KG5511 on the back. Back is direct bolt on, front will need the mounting tubes on the bottom narrowed a bit.
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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-26 2:01 PM (#575840 - in reply to #575827)
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Any idea what the KG4507 is for? BTW thanks George.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-12-26 2:04 PM (#575841 - in reply to #575827)
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It's for the '65-'73 C-Body
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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-26 2:18 PM (#575845 - in reply to #575827)
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Was just on the ph. w/firm-feel when you texted in Nathan, looks like a set of Bilsteins might happen. Good info.
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mobileparts
Posted 2018-12-27 10:13 PM (#575901 - in reply to #575827)
Subject: Re: Shocks for a 61


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If you don't want to have to "modify / monkey" wrong shocks --
I have some real nice N.O.S. Moog (Yes -- that Moog -- they haven't made Shocks in many years)
And they are PERFECT for the 1957 - 1961 Fronts........


Always best to simply Call me -- Craig -- 516 - 485 - 1935......
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Mopar1
Posted 2018-12-28 8:58 AM (#575920 - in reply to #575901)
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mobileparts - 2018-12-27 9:13 PM

If you don't want to have to "modify / monkey" wrong shocks --
I have some real nice N.O.S. Moog (Yes -- that Moog -- they haven't made Shocks in many years)
And they are PERFECT for the 1957 - 1961 Fronts........


Always best to simply Call me -- Craig -- 516 - 485 - 1935......
yeah, why go high tech when you can have NOS( Nasty Old s**t)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2018-12-28 2:39 PM (#575931 - in reply to #575827)
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Bilsteins and Koni's are in a different league than the KYB's, Gabriel or Monroe "upgraded bicycle tire-pumps".
The higher priced shocks 'dampen' the suspension movements in a better and controlled way, while the cheaper ones just try to resist movement.

NOS shocks should be showcased museums or on trailer queens.

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1960fury
Posted 2018-12-28 3:21 PM (#575935 - in reply to #575931)
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BigBlockMopar - 2018-12-28 2:39 PM

Bilsteins and Koni's are in a different league than the KYB's, Gabriel or Monroe "upgraded bicycle tire-pumps".
The higher priced shocks 'dampen' the suspension movements in a better and controlled way, while the cheaper ones just try to resist movement.



Got a Bilstein part number for the 57-61 full size application? Or do they offer dual Bayonet ends in that size? And can they be used "upside" down (Reservoir assembly body side)?
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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-28 6:14 PM (#575947 - in reply to #575827)
Subject: Re: Shocks for a 61


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Ordered Bilsteins from FirmFeel today, Cross referenced them off the kayaba part#s George sent and referred to Nathans confirmation of what the front shock fits. FF tech guy took info called me back today and shocks are on their way. Herman I couldn't agree more, I ran KYB's on my 58 Plymouth and they were okay but this will be better as it should be. Sid when I get them I'll fill you in. Thanks fellas, Tires are next.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-12-28 6:25 PM (#575949 - in reply to #575827)
Subject: Re: Shocks for a 61



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I just read your original post. If you want to fix wander, the radial tire will help a lot. But additionally, you should increase your caster. You should be able to install offset bushings in the UCA to get a caster increase out of it.
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Handygun
Posted 2018-12-28 6:52 PM (#575952 - in reply to #575827)
Subject: Re: Shocks for a 61


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I really can't say it's wander, it's more like yaw which Im thinking has to be those tall skinny looks like a bias ply but its a radial tires. I've read the reviews on them and people seem to like them but maybe they are on a 3200 lb Bel-air not a 4400lb 300.The car just seems to overpower or drive over these tires. Feels like your driving on inner tubes I just did the front end on my RR this fall and installed a set of those Moog bushings your talking about. It would be wishful thinking to think this 300 will handle as well as the RR w/60's and a rear bar, small block no less. But any thing will be an improvement over the way it is now.
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Handygun
Posted 2019-01-13 7:37 AM (#576691 - in reply to #575827)
Subject: Re: Shocks for a 61


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Installed Bilsteins yesterday. Fronts were 55-R097, rear 55-R092 Sticker on the end of box www.RaceCarDynamics.com ph.619.588.4723. I got them from FirmFeel. 11 inches of snow on the ground so no test drive. Fr. shocks had to be narrowed on LCA from as delivered 1.5" to 1.25". The Bilstiens are larger dia than the Allstate shocks I took off, however after removing the lca bumper and tying off the shock it went in easily. Roomy car under here plenty of room for better rubber. Late addendum FF #BSFO c/r kyb KG4507---FF#BSRO c/r KYB KG5511. Bilstein cross references to KYB's

Edited by Handygun 2019-01-13 10:41 AM
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1960fury
Posted 2019-01-13 10:45 AM (#576698 - in reply to #575827)
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Thanks for the info Steve.
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2019-01-13 11:06 AM (#576702 - in reply to #575827)
Subject: Re: Shocks for a 61



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Just noticing this topic again. Thanks for updating.
Looking back at pics of the pair of Bilsteins I had on the rear of my '73 Dodge Dart some years ago, i'm seeing the partnumber for the rear shocks is the same: 55-R092

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