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macedon
Posted 2019-03-12 8:46 AM (#579229)
Subject: Dave's 58 Imperial 4 dr hdtp



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Bought a 58 Imperial. It's a base model 4 dr hdtp. However it's probably one the more highly optioned ones ever built.
Pwr seat, Pwr windows, Deluxe dual A/C, Auto-Pilot, Clock, Rear Shelf Speaker, Left remote mirror, optional hood ornament, Electro-touch radio w/pwr antenna, shaded backlight. That's all on the data tag. Also code 406... not sure what that is.

Runs and drives (yard drives, no brakes). Rough but not a lot of rust. I'll post some pictures when I get it cleaned up some. It's filthy.
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57burb
Posted 2019-03-12 9:05 AM (#579231 - in reply to #579229)
Subject: RE: Dave's 58 Imperial 4 dr hdtp



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Hey Dave, congrats! Sounds like a cool car. Let's see some pics!

406 = Accessory Package A (vanity mirror + day/night dash mounted rearview mirror + license plate frame)
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Posted 2019-03-14 9:27 PM (#579338 - in reply to #579229)
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macedon
Posted 2019-06-27 6:51 PM (#584143 - in reply to #579229)
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Haven't done a whole lot since getting it. Got some brakes. Replaced the busted passenger window. Now this surprised me... a lot. Just for grins I decided to see about the A/C. So I hooked up a vacuum and evacuated for about an hour. Shut off the pump and it held solid. Added a couple of cans of 134a and it actually works. I have no idea when it last did. Blows cold from the back and front. Amazing. What will be truly amazing is if it still does tomorrow. I won't be surprised if it leaks like a sieve.
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macedon
Posted 2019-06-28 3:48 PM (#584193 - in reply to #579229)
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Yeah this will keep me busy for a bit. So far every thing I've tried works except the emergency brake and the dimmer switch. 392 starts right up every time and runs smooth and quiet. I need to do a compression test still. I haven't driven it on the road so I don't know if the Auto-Pilot does in fact work.



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Posted 2019-06-29 12:58 AM (#584205 - in reply to #579229)
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Looks like a really solid car from the pictures you've posted. Congrats on a decent score. 

I'm surprised that the A/C held a charge of R-134a refrigerant and managed to actually work (for awhile). That was definitely an R-12 set-up and has the wrong o-rings and stuff to keep a 134a charge in.Still, it is encouraging to know the A/C can be made to work.

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Phil_the_frenchie
Posted 2019-06-29 3:38 AM (#584206 - in reply to #579229)
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On my 57 when i restored it i put also R134 ( 15 years ago ?) but i removed the mineral oil compressor and put the correct oil (synthetic). The A/C blows cold but after one or two years a leak appeared at the sight glass and since i haven't replaced it. if I put back into operation today i 'll charge the system with Duracool, that's what i did in the '70 Ford, that works great (and with original oil).
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KcImperial
Posted 2019-06-29 10:17 AM (#584209 - in reply to #579229)
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That is a uniquely optioned Base model! Electric door locks and rear defogger are the only options I see missing.
On your dimmer switch, check your bulbs first. I've had them burned out more often than the switch.
Looks like a very solid body too, you did good getting this one. I can't wait to see more updates!
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macedon
Posted 2019-06-29 12:42 PM (#584215 - in reply to #579229)
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Yeah the body is very solid. There is some rust on the drivers floor not bad... 2 inch hole. Other than that really nice. I've got all the trim including the option hood ornament.

My sedan parts car has the pwr door locks... have to check and see if it has the rear defogger. Maybe I use them to give the 4dr hdtp an upgrade.



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Phil_the_frenchie
Posted 2019-06-29 2:07 PM (#584218 - in reply to #579229)
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If you have dual A/C you can't have the rear defoger
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macedon
Posted 2019-06-29 4:03 PM (#584228 - in reply to #584218)
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Why is that? Compatibility issue or clearance? It looks like one could fit there. It does however look like there is no clearance for the rear speaker in the center hole. The side speaker holes are used for the A/C diffusers.

Different issue. Does anyone know of a source for the woven mat that goes on the package shelf?
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KcImperial
Posted 2019-06-29 4:20 PM (#584229 - in reply to #584218)
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Phil is right. Rear defogger would go in the same place as the large intake vent on dual A/C so it's an either or option same as the instant heat and A/C.
I got the defogger confused with rear center speaker which is possible with dual A/C



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macedon
Posted 2019-06-29 4:38 PM (#584230 - in reply to #584229)
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Ok, I guess I'm confused or just not getting it. I always thought this was the slot for the rear defogger. I see woven part of your's is like mine... touch it and it's dust



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KcImperial
Posted 2019-06-29 4:48 PM (#584231 - in reply to #579229)
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That is the slot for rear defogger. The interference would be top side trim of each. Plus, it would be counter-productive to have both as the rear a/c could defog the window if needed.
Yes, my woven mat is dust and that's on a car that's been garaged almost entirely since new. I never looked for a replacement source.
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Imp58Alpes
Posted 2019-06-30 7:56 AM (#584247 - in reply to #579229)
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And don't lose that parking brake release knob and light, that's 1 year only, and specific to the cars that came with Autopilot.
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macedon
Posted 2019-06-30 10:15 AM (#584250 - in reply to #584247)
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Thanks. I'll definitely keep track of them during the restoration.



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macedon
Posted 2019-07-09 7:49 PM (#584636 - in reply to #584250)
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Floors, rockers and trunk solid with the exception of the drivers floor. A little work to do there but minor. Whew.



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KcImperial
Posted 2019-07-09 10:46 PM (#584639 - in reply to #579229)
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Nice metal! You still have that 1in black filler strip between the trunk extension and the quarter panel too
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