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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-09-29 9:46 PM (#588138)
Subject: Leaf springs?


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While I had my car out today, I noticed that the right rear side of the car is sitting about a half inch lower than the left. Thoughts? I replaced rear shocks in 2012, so I’m doubting that is the culprit. Leaf springs have always been squeaky. Any thoughts on cause or solution?
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1959Dodge
Posted 2019-09-30 10:53 AM (#588166 - in reply to #588138)
Subject: Re: Leaf springs?



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My 59 Dodge convertible had the same problem ever since I bought it.
The seller had install monroe airs hocks, and as long as they were pumped up to about 100 psi
the car had a "fairly level stance"

Finally, about a month ago I took care of the problem.
I replace the main springs with new ones and had the smaller shackles rearced.
The car has a nice level stance now.

I found a place close to me (In Southern Calif) that was able to supply the new springs
and rearc the smaller shackles.

I think it cost me about $600 plus labor.

Gary.
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57chizler
Posted 2019-09-30 1:38 PM (#588176 - in reply to #588166)
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1959Dodge - 2019-09-30 7:53 AM

had the smaller shackles rearced.


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1959Dodge
Posted 2019-10-01 12:38 AM (#588217 - in reply to #588176)
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according to the shop that did the repair, the main spring, I think the longest one,
they had to be replaced on each side to make the car have an "even stance".
then you have the smaller (shorter) leaf springs I call them shackles,
anyway I was told those could be re arced (rebent and heated).
The car now has a nice even stance even without the air shocks
but I left them in, anyway.

You can buy totally new springs from Detroit Springs, as I recall
but that would have cost about $700 for the springs as I recalls plus a couple hundred shipping
plus the time to make them, hence I went with a "Local company"

Gary
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57chizler
Posted 2019-10-01 5:26 PM (#588263 - in reply to #588217)
Subject: Re: Leaf springs?



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1959Dodge - 2019-09-30 9:38 PM

the smaller (shorter) leaf springs I call them shackles,


This is a shackle in normal terms.



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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-01 7:06 PM (#588271 - in reply to #588138)
Subject: Re: Leaf springs?


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So is it my springs? If so, who is the best source for these in the US?
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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-02 10:20 AM (#588303 - in reply to #588138)
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Still wondering. I looked at the EATON site and they don’t look too bad. Wondering if I’d like to raise the rear a bit. Then again, new springs would likely do that considerably.
Still looking for any other options for springs if anyone knows of any.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2019-10-02 10:35 AM (#588305 - in reply to #588138)
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No one has mentioned ESPO http://www.springsnthings.com/ who might just be the best company to talk to at the best price. Very knowledgable and helpful on the phone.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-10-02 8:52 PM (#588328 - in reply to #588138)
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how much do they charge?
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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-02 9:21 PM (#588330 - in reply to #588138)
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Below is the quote for my 60 Windsor:

“The rear leaf springs are $340/pair for 5-leaf standard duty or $360/pair for 6-leaf heavy duty. They are matched pairs and come with the front bushings pressed in. The rear shackles with bushings are $46/pair; ubolts $20/set of 4 and front eye bolts $6/pair. Shipping depends on which springs you're interested in but would be $83.76 or less. Usually takes 7-10 days to ship. “
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saratoga ny
Posted 2019-10-02 9:49 PM (#588331 - in reply to #588303)
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I bought my leaf springs from St. Louis Spring PH. 314-533-2132 stlouisspring@gmail.com Found them on the internet. 1960 Chrysler Saratoga. Cost me around $650 with ship. Both springs all assembled with bushings, lowered one inch, with new u-bolts. Super nice guy to deal with.
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Cmangeot
Posted 2019-10-09 8:41 AM (#588610 - in reply to #588138)
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As I have been trying to free my stuck bumper end bolts, I decided to take a look at the leaf springs to see if I could find any visual reason for the slight sag on the passenger rear. I couldnt really see anything out of place, but I did notice that from the rear axle back there is about an eighth inch gap between the top spring and the others on both sides while under normal weight load. Is this the normal state or is this indicative of age/wear?
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