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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-08-18 10:55 AM (#602223 - in reply to #602213)
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Dave L. - 2020-08-17 11:49 PM

Thanks, this is very interesting. As you and I have discussed Nick, my project car is a 1960 Windsor T&C wagon, converted by Richard Brothers, and sold through their unique relationship to Chrysler and it's dealers, into a combination ambulance/ hearse. Chrysler Historical provided me with documentation that Goodyear was trying to interest Richard Brothers in their CaptiveAir tires. I have 1960 Richard Brothers publicity photos that show white sidewall CapriveAir tires on their display vehicles. I also have 999 on the build sheet for my tires. Note I believe because it is a SWB Windsor it would have had 6" wide wheels, not the 6.5". So if I am understanding you correctly, perhaps my "999" was for a blackwall CaptiveAir option. No evidence of a jack.


I have a feeling on yours that you probably got the larger 9.00x14 whitewall Captive Air tires. That would explain the 999 code like on the window sticker above. I think I remember that all your promotional photos from Richard Brothers showed whitewalls. Since they put the same 9.00x14 tires on both 6" and 6.5" wheels, I don't know which ones you would have gotten. Do you have original wheels for your car?

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Dave L.
Posted 2020-08-18 7:47 PM (#602246 - in reply to #602223)
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Thanks for the additional feedback, Nick. Nah, the previous owner installed C-Body road wheels t move it around. Correct, the Richard Brothers publicity photos I have all show the narrow whitewalls.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-08-20 1:43 AM (#602302 - in reply to #588872)
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Today I replaced the rear fuel line in the wagon. The original was pretty crusty and got damaged when the car was unloaded by the shipper. There was no tank in the car so the line was flopping around back there and hooked on the truck. I lucked out and found someone parting out a '64 Dodge 880 wagon and got the fuel and brake lines as well as the gas tank and other parts. Fortunately the '64 is the same as the '60 underneath. I still need to replace or fabricate the line going through the subframe as I didn't think to get that one. When trying to take the hose off of it where it connects to the rear line, it broke off.




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Posted 2020-08-20 6:56 PM (#602338 - in reply to #602302)
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Is the guy with the 880 wagon close to you? I'm always looking for stuff for my 64 880 sedan.
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Posted 2020-08-20 8:01 PM (#602342 - in reply to #602338)
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normsclassicradio - 2020-08-20 3:56 PM

Is the guy with the 880 wagon close to you? I'm always looking for stuff for my 64 880 sedan. ;)


He's in the Sacramento area but the car is gone by now. There wasn't much to it as it was a "race car" and stripped of most parts.







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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-08-24 1:43 AM (#602453 - in reply to #588872)
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Today I got the fuel line out of the subframe. The end that connected to the rear line was rotted off. Of course it fell down inside the subframe so it took me a while to fish the end out so I could pull it out. Need to make a new one. When they tried to get the car running they removed the mechanical fuel pump and blocked it off. They mounted an electric fuel pump to the inner fender and two fuel filters to the carburetor. I got a rebuilt original-style Carter pump and need to make a new line from the pump to the carb so I can get the fuel filter back to the correct location. All I have is an old cheap flaring tool. Need to get a better one.




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Posted 2020-08-24 3:57 AM (#602458 - in reply to #588872)
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If you don't mind doing the flare on the bench, I highly recommend purchasing this one. You will need to mount it in a vise, but it works effortlessly, even for large tubes or even stainless.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-08-24 10:38 AM (#602469 - in reply to #602458)
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Powerflite - 2020-08-24 12:57 AM

If you don't mind doing the flare on the bench, I highly recommend purchasing this one. You will need to mount it in a vise, but it works effortlessly, even for large tubes or even stainless.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/kti-70081


I looked at that one and a hydraulic one. The advantage of the hydraulic one is it's easier to use under the car. When I thought I was going to have to do the lines in the car I was leaning that way. A friend works in a tractor shop and he has access to this stuff.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-09-07 5:39 PM (#602996 - in reply to #588872)
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Put the new exhaust in the car this weekend. Still needs a bit of fiddling to get things lined up right. Also got all the fuel lines done and fuel pump installed. Had to make a new one to go through the subframe as well as the one going from the pump to the carburetor. Got the gas tank ready to install but the welded in nut for the tank strap to the body broke loose. Have to fix that. Once I get that done and put the new spark plugs I'll be ready to try and fire this thing up.




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Posted 2020-09-07 11:35 PM (#603004 - in reply to #588872)
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Exhaust looks nice. Is the "fiddling" bending/welding, or purely assembly? When you get it all done and running, I'd love to hear feedback on the sound as well as to see a photo of the tailpipes in the rear. Been think of replacing my exhaust with the proper dual setup as original as somewhere over the years mine was converted to single. Were you able to use the original hangers/locations?

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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-09-08 12:58 AM (#603005 - in reply to #603004)
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Ev's62Chrysler - 2020-09-07 8:35 PM

Exhaust looks nice. Is the "fiddling" bending/welding, or purely assembly? When you get it all done and running, I'd love to hear feedback on the sound as well as to see a photo of the tailpipes in the rear. Been think of replacing my exhaust with the proper dual setup as original as somewhere over the years mine was converted to single. Were you able to use the original hangers/locations?

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Robert, I got the exhaust kit from Waldrons. It's all the stock size which is pretty small. 2" exhaust pipes with 1 7/8" tail pipes. I had to get new muffler hangers as mine were rotten beyond use. I found 1967 B-body ones that were for 1 7/8" pipes and replaced the rubber to make them work. On the forward hangers I had to install new hooks for the pipes but used the original straps. The tail pipe hangers are the originals that I cleaned up. The fiddling will be moving the pipes around before clamping everything tight. No welding. I may end up having to take it to an exhaust shop for adjustment as the tails don't fit exactly right. The car was missing all the mufflers and the pipes between them and parts of the pipes in front of the resonators. And one of the tail pipes was not original.

Here are the tail pipes where they exit. I don't know how similar the '62 exhaust is to my '60.



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Posted 2020-09-08 1:03 AM (#603006 - in reply to #588872)
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These are the front hangers. They go in the subframe next to the ends of the torsion bars. I replaced the hooks with ones from generic hangers.




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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-09-08 1:13 AM (#603008 - in reply to #588872)
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These are the muffler hangers. Tried with the u-shaped strap but it didn't provide enough support so replaced it with a loop like the originals. I may end up modifying them to have plates inside the loop like the original to give more support to the rubber than just a washer that I have in there now.

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They have other sizes if you are running bigger pipes.


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Posted 2020-09-08 1:20 AM (#603009 - in reply to #588872)
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While the other hangers are the same as other body styles, the tail pipe hangers are specific to the wagon since the pipes exit out the sides of the car. The frame bracket is the same on each side but the hooks are left and right.




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Posted 2020-09-08 11:46 PM (#603048 - in reply to #588872)
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Nick,

Thanks for the info and photos. When I inquired a couple of years ago the lady at Waldrons couldn't give me additional info on the tailpipes, but said they should be as original. Good to see yours appear to be correct. I imagine our wagons use the same setup. My single pipe exits straight back, and I get a lot of fumes with the tailgate window down. Hoping when I do replace it, more fumes exist to the sides.

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Posted 2020-09-09 12:24 AM (#603051 - in reply to #603048)
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Ev's62Chrysler - 2020-09-08 8:46 PM

Nick,

Thanks for the info and photos. When I inquired a couple of years ago the lady at Waldrons couldn't give me additional info on the tailpipes, but said they should be as original. Good to see yours appear to be correct. I imagine our wagons use the same setup. My single pipe exits straight back, and I get a lot of fumes with the tailgate window down. Hoping when I do replace it, more fumes exist to the sides.

Robert


Ruth at Waldron's can be a little lacking in the customer service skills. And yes, the exhaust needs to exit out the side or it will get sucked into the back of the car. These wagons don't seal will at the bottom of the gate. Especially if the gate gets bent on the inside at the bottom from people climbing over it.

Does yours use resonators and mufflers?

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Posted 2020-09-09 6:49 AM (#603053 - in reply to #588872)
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Yes, it originally had resonators and mufflers. Most, if not all, of the original hangers are still in place. It currently has a single muffler, but it's nice and quiet.
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Posted 2020-09-15 1:34 PM (#603220 - in reply to #588872)
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Got my fuel tank installed. Had an issue with the mount for the tank strap. The captured nut in the bracket on the body broke loose. Had to cut the bolt head off to get it out. That left me with a hole. Was going to put a rivnut in it but the hole was too big so made an insert to drop down in the bracket. Had to use a long bolt to get it started but it worked out well. Still need to put the stone guard in but will wait until I get the car started.



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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-09-23 2:03 PM (#603524 - in reply to #588872)
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When I got the wagon, it was missing the grille emblem. I had bought a broken grille that had to get an emblem as these are hard to find in any usable condition. My friend fixed the emblem up for me. The plastic has a crack and was scratched up and the glue they use on them is pretty strong. Trying to redo the chrome and gold on the plastic is not easy but I think he did a great job with what he had to work with and it's going to look great on the car. I would still like to find an NOS one one day.



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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-10-10 1:35 PM (#604288 - in reply to #588872)
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After posting pictures of my emblem on Facebook. Someone let me know that they had an NOS one. Almost too nice to put on the car. I'm going to run with my old one for now and put this one further down the road.





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Posted 2020-10-10 1:43 PM (#604289 - in reply to #588872)
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My wagon didn't come with it's original gas cap. Had a clunky chrome one with a black handle. Fit the filler but stuck up quite a bit. I bought a vintage Stant locking cap that was supposed to fit it but I couldn't get it to latch onto the filler. Was afraid if I got it on, I wouldn't be able to get it off again. I did find NOS original types. The dealer counter versions were all chrome to match any paint color even though the originals would have been body color with a chrome handle.

The other day I found this NOS factory locking accessory cap online. They were listed in the parts book but no picture so I wasn't sure what it looked like before. It fits the car perfectly. Nice and flush with the body and looks good. I've since seen other ones on eBay without the part number or box and bought another one for a friend. Then I found a Gates cap that looks like the same thing but uses different style of keys.





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Posted 2020-10-14 1:34 PM (#604446 - in reply to #588872)
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Great thread, I really appreciate all the details on the exhaust as I will be doing the same work on my '60 Plymouth wagon soon. As you already know, I recently installed my repaired fuel tank. My original strap was rusted pretty thin, so I drew a flat one in SolidWorks and had it laser cut out of stainless (the material cost on a small part was negligible, you're just paying for laser time). I had two cutout since I knew I'd have to bend it up to work and I was worried I might not get it right in one try, but I did. Any way, if you need/want a stainless tank strap, let me know.
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Posted 2020-12-05 9:59 AM (#606404 - in reply to #604289)
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NicksGarage - could you post picture showing the backside of the Chrysler NOS gas cap (part 2123643) ?

When installing the cap does it require to really push down in order to have the locking tabs engage into the filler tube flange ?

Since I couldn’t locate an NOS one, ended up purchasing that Gates 77 version. It fits the filler tube but the locking tabs don’t want to catch.

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Posted 2020-12-05 8:40 PM (#606432 - in reply to #606404)
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Space Trukin Wagon - 2020-12-05 6:59 AM

NicksGarage - could you post picture showing the backside of the Chrysler NOS gas cap (part 2123643) ?

When installing the cap does it require to really push down in order to have the locking tabs engage into the filler tube flange ?

Since I couldn’t locate an NOS one, ended up purchasing that Gates 77 version. It fits the filler tube but the locking tabs don’t want to catch.



Here you go. The Gates one is on the right. The gasket on the Gates one is thicker, but softer, so you have to exert more pressure to get it to latch on. Even on the factory cap, you need to make sure both engage. If they aren't it's pretty noticeable since it won't be flush on both sides. Basically I just listen for two clicks when installing it.





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Posted 2020-12-06 12:55 AM (#606444 - in reply to #606432)
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Thanks for the pictures. That Gates cap on the right is the exact same one that I have.

Just didn't want to mess it up by pressing down with too much force when installing.
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Posted 2021-08-21 5:56 PM (#614359 - in reply to #588872)
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It's been a while since I posted about my wagon. I've been trying to get it running off and on for the past year plus. This past week I got to talk to the mechanic that got it running in 2015 for the long-term owner who got it out of storage. It had never been started since being parked in a garage in Indiana in 1978. He said it took some doing to get it going as the fuel tank was rotten and fuel pump was bad. He removed the mechanical fuel pump and used an electric pump and a gas can and got it going. They couldn't find a gas tank for it and someone came along and wanted to buy the car so it was sold to the guy I got it from. I'm not sure he ever ran it.

The engine doesn't have the greatest compression after sitting since 1978. We put some marvel's mystery oil in the cylinders and let it sit for a few months cranking it over from time to time. I really need to do a leak down test on it but today I decided to pull the valve covers, rockers and pushrods to have a look at the valvetrain and check to see if I had any stuck valves or bent pushrods. Nothing bent.

It's a real pain to get the valve covers off as there is so much stuff in the way. It actually wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Did have to pull the heater core box and generator off to get the passenger valve cover off. This car has the giant 40 amp generator required with dual a/c. That thing must weigh 50 pounds. It didn't help that the belts were too short so I couldn't just pivot the generator out of the way.

Next step is a leak down test but it's looking more and more like I should just pull the heads and have them redone. I was hoping to do that at a later time as I was just trying to get the car running so I could move it around under its own power.





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NicksGarage
Posted 2021-08-21 6:40 PM (#614362 - in reply to #588872)
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I need to find some longer belts for the A/C and generator. The current belts are 70 inches but there is no adjustment room with the big generator and the added on idler. Even removing the idler, I had to remove the mounting bolts for the generator to get the belts off. And yes, the adjuster bracket does mount that way on the big generator.

Also it seems to be hard to buy matched belts anymore. A friend did the belts on his '64 New Yorker and he had to order a bunch of belts to find two that were close to the same. In the old days, you'd buy a matched pair that were cut from the same master so that they would be identical.

Parts places don't list different belts for the big generator. The parts book does list different belts for the 40amp generator, part number 1947025. I was able to cross that through napa and D&D. I ordered a pair of the D&D ones from Amazon and I'll see how they match. At least it's easy to return them and they were a lot cheaper than the Napa belts.



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Posted 2021-08-21 8:47 PM (#614364 - in reply to #588872)
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Typically, if it doesn't run at all, doing a valve job isn't going to fix it unless something is bent. It's really best to do a leak down to figure out what's going on with the compression. Otherwise you could go through all the trouble only to find out that your rings are completely shot. But typically, a motor will still run with lousy compression. It just won't have a lot of power. It could be that your lifters are garbage and don't currently move the valves enough to get it running. Or it may just be an ignition problem.
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Posted 2021-08-21 11:11 PM (#614370 - in reply to #614364)
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Powerflite - 2021-08-21 5:47 PM

Typically, if it doesn't run at all, doing a valve job isn't going to fix it unless something is bent. It's really best to do a leak down to figure out what's going on with the compression. Otherwise you could go through all the trouble only to find out that your rings are completely shot. But typically, a motor will still run with lousy compression. It just won't have a lot of power. It could be that your lifters are garbage and don't currently move the valves enough to get it running. Or it may just be an ignition problem.


Doing a leak down test tomorrow and then will put the rockers and pushrods back in and make sure everything is operating properly. After digging around in there today I see I need a better ground for the engine. We haven't had the greatest spark with it.
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Posted 2021-08-25 5:02 PM (#614490 - in reply to #588872)
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When I talked to the mechanic that last worked on the car, he gave me a tidbit of information that led me to finding out who the original owner of the wagon probably was. It was ordered from Max Barish, Inc. Chrysler Plymouth in Los Angeles. I knew the car probably lived in Pasadena based on matchbooks and receipts I found stuck in the front seat and other places. Robert M. Flarsheim lived in Pasadena at the time and also had a lake house in Culver, Indiana on Lake Maxinkuckee. There isn't a lot of information on him available but from what I've found is that he was born in 1898, which would have made him 62 when he bought the car. He and his first wife Myrtle didn't seem to have any children and this was confirmed after talking to his great grand nephew. Why an older couple with no children or even grandchildren needed a 9 passenger luxury wagon, I'm not sure. He was a golfer so maybe he needed something to carry his clubs to the country club. He was in the hearing aid business so not sure it makes sense as a company car, and just a year later he was filing for Social Security benefits. Of course the wagon would have made a great car to cruise across the country to visit the lake house.

He sold or traded the car in in 1973 in Plymouth, Indiana where the longest term owner bought it when he was in high school. The great grand nephew never met him and said his dad had only met him a few times. The rest of the family stayed in the Louisville, Kentucky area. My own parents moved to California while the rest of the family stayed in Texas and Oklahoma. We didn't grow up with our extended family so we were never that close. The Internet has brought us back together though. I've probably learned all I'll be able to about the first owner so there is still a lot of mystery about that. I know for some people this kind of stuff isn't that important but I'm always curious about the previous owners of my old cars.
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Posted 2021-08-31 10:28 AM (#614620 - in reply to #588872)
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Nick, any luck getting this car running?
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Posted 2021-08-31 11:59 AM (#614622 - in reply to #614620)
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jboymechanic - 2021-08-31 7:28 AM

Nick, any luck getting this car running?


Not yet, pulled the valve covers and rockers to make sure there were no stuck valves and/or bent pushrods. All good there. Did a leakdown test and the results weren't great but not catastrophic. We're going to battle the weak spark and slow cranking speed and try again. Got a new group 27 battery and will be correcting the undersized replacement battery cables. Will be a couple weeks before I can get to it again. Going back to working on the '61 Belvedere. Waiting for parts so I can put the tank back in that one and then it should be running off the tank.
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Posted 2021-09-10 6:59 PM (#614916 - in reply to #588872)
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I got lucky this week and confirmed the original owner of the car. Talking to his son, who is now around 75, they lived in Pasadena and had the lake house and would go there every summer. He said his dad loved cars and had several. They moved to the lake house in 1975 and then came back to California in 1980. He's going to see if he has any pictures of the car from back in the day. The son was adopted and didn't take their last name so that made it trickier to find him. He said it was a great car to ride in across country on those trips. He also said his dad was an avid golfer and would go golfing all over with a friend.

Still no luck on getting it running. Put a blue streak coil on it so have plenty of spark. Got a few backfires from the fuel building up. Squirted a little oil in each cylinder and that helped a bit. Quite a bit of smoke in the crankcase. Left the valve covers off while trying to start it.
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Posted 2021-09-10 9:01 PM (#614919 - in reply to #588872)
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Round up the usual suspects! Sounds like timing. Check the distributor and the advance springs at the bottom. I was using a later distributor with 2 springs in it, and had similar results you are describing, but it would fire sporadically. I swapped out the distributor for one with only 1 spring in it, and it fired right up and ran well after that. I'm not sure why it wouldn't work on the other one as it was set up exactly the same other than the springs, but that was my experience.

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Posted 2021-09-13 6:24 PM (#615028 - in reply to #588872)
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The reason the my 64 361 was a no start way back when was cam timing that had jumped in 1975. But it wouldn't start then or recently after my repair until I primed the oil system with a priming tool, (a hex shaped rod I got from Summit) I couldn't get enough lift out of the valve train. It also has a couple of valve sticking from sitting so long. Some GM rust penetrant cured that. Now it runs fine with no further internal repairs.



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Posted 2021-09-15 12:55 AM (#615061 - in reply to #588872)
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I couldn`t sleep if I had all that crud inside my engine. Only way to get a reliable engine without noises from lifters and rocker arms or cooling issues is simply a total
disassembly and overhaul. Sorry I just had to say it...
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Posted 2021-09-15 9:40 AM (#615067 - in reply to #615061)
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22mafeja - 2021-09-15 12:55 AM

I couldn`t sleep if I had all that crud inside my engine. Only way to get a reliable engine without noises from lifters and rocker arms or cooling issues is simply a total
disassembly and overhaul. Sorry I just had to say it...


Not my experience with these (B) engines. 1 inch of sludge in the oil pan of my 383, rockers covered with carbon crud.... that was 1988. Run it almost daily ever since, daily driver in the 90s, sees 140+ mph almost every week in summers, still runs like new with no unusual noises and perfect oil pressure. About 350K miles on the clock.
Same experience with my other B-engines. They all were abused, high mileage and are still untouched (heads never been off) and they all still run like new.
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Posted 2021-09-15 11:29 AM (#615070 - in reply to #615067)
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Oh, I plan on building a 383 for it. But this engine only has 112K on it. I cleaned and flushed everything out the best I could before reassembly. The worst crud was in the water jackets. I cleaned those areas out when I replaced the soft plugs. I didn't mean to hijack this thread, I just wanted to offer a possible area to check to help Nick get his car running..



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Posted 2021-09-15 1:42 PM (#615073 - in reply to #615070)
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normsclassicradio - 2021-09-15 8:29 AM

Oh, I plan on building a 383 for it. But this engine only has 112K on it. I cleaned and flushed everything out the best I could before reassembly. The worst crud was in the water jackets. I cleaned those areas out when I replaced the soft plugs. I didn't mean to hijack this thread, I just wanted to offer a possible area to check to help Nick get his car running..


No worries, it's all helpful. I did clean the rockers, shafts and pushrods. Nothing bent and all valves opening and closing and oil is pumping like it should. The results from the leakdown test were not great. 90psi in and only holding 30. Rings are worn or stuck. Put a little oil in each cylinder and that helped but the slow cranking isn't helpful. Ordered a mini starter for it and will do a couple other things before resigning to pulling the motor.

Keep in mind the goal of getting it running wasn't to start driving it. It needs a lot more work than that go get it road ready. I just need to be able to move it around under its own power. Pushing a 4700 pound car around is no fun and it's up hill to my house garage where it needs to go for a while.



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Posted 2021-09-15 6:34 PM (#615086 - in reply to #588872)
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One thing you can check. To see if the timing chain has excessive slack, remove the distributor cap. Watch the rotor and turn the crank back and forth with a wrench. If you get a lot of rotation before the distributor rotor turns, you should probably have a look at the timing chain.
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Posted 2021-09-15 6:39 PM (#615087 - in reply to #615086)
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normsclassicradio - 2021-09-15 3:34 PM

One thing you can check. To see if the timing chain has excessive slack, remove the distributor cap. Watch the rotor and turn the crank back and forth with a wrench. If you get a lot of rotation before the distributor rotor turns, you should probably have a look at the timing chain.
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We don't have that problem. The distributor itself is worn and has a bit of slop in the shaft. We are getting good spark now that I put a blue streak coil on it. Only spare I have is a 300F dual point needs setting up.
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Posted 2021-09-20 2:07 PM (#615216 - in reply to #588872)
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If you need model specific parts for this car, there is one local to me that was a restoration project for a kid, and he lost patience/money/interest, and sold it to a junkyard. It was a bit rough, but complete and running with many new mchanical components.. The kid really blew it. Anyway, that yard specializes in classic cars, so at least it will be properly salvaged, if that's a thing. Car was identical to yours, but dark red and dark red and black interior. Power everything, as far as I know.
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Posted 2021-09-20 2:23 PM (#615217 - in reply to #615216)
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soiouz - 2021-09-20 11:07 AM

If you need model specific parts for this car, there is one local to me that was a restoration project for a kid, and he lost patience/money/interest, and sold it to a junkyard. It was a bit rough, but complete and running with many new mchanical components.. The kid really blew it. Anyway, that yard specializes in classic cars, so at least it will be properly salvaged, if that's a thing. Car was identical to yours, but dark red and dark red and black interior. Power everything, as far as I know.


I assume you're talking about this car. If so, yes, an over ambitious project with little upside.





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Posted 2021-09-20 2:28 PM (#615218 - in reply to #588872)
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That's the one.

Poor kid sank a lot of money into it, but did everything backwards. Brand new brakes on a half rot-eaten body shell, etc, etc..


Anyway, let me know if you need, I will give you the contact info to the yard, or get the parts myself for you, as I go to that yard a couple of times a year usually.

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Posted 2021-09-20 3:52 PM (#615219 - in reply to #615218)
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soiouz - 2021-09-20 11:28 AM

That's the one.

Poor kid sank a lot of money into it, but did everything backwards. Brand new brakes on a half rot-eaten body shell, etc, etc..


Anyway, let me know if you need, I will give you the contact info to the yard, or get the parts myself for you, as I go to that yard a couple of times a year usually.


Thanks. I'll send you a private message.

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