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DonFromTexas
Posted 2019-11-22 4:27 PM (#590564)
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Previously I owned a 59 Imperial Crown Southampton 4dr hardtop, the front seats could be manually rotated out for ease of entry, but I recall (I think) that maybe on the Le Baron or some other MOPAR The seats were tied to the door and would rotate automatically for easy entry.  Is my memory bad or did some have seats "coupled" to the door?

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1960fury
Posted 2019-11-22 4:46 PM (#590566 - in reply to #590564)
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Yes, in 1960 it was automatic.
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DonFromTexas
Posted 2019-11-22 4:57 PM (#590567 - in reply to #590564)
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Was that something that could be installed on the 59 model?l Was it electric or mechanical?
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wizard
Posted 2019-11-22 5:19 PM (#590569 - in reply to #590564)
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The "full automatic" sviwel seats was an option to the sviwel seats option in 1960 only.

The doors has torsion springs that "counterweight" the weight/force of the sviwel seat when the door is opened.
Practically, if the cable should be disconnected it would be harder to close the doors.

The A-pillars of the '60 was special for the cable bracket recession (if I remember correctly). This recession is not present on the '59 and '61.

The construction is somewhat sloppy and often broke down. There's a lot of rumors about unsafety, type the doors flew open and throwed out the wifey, but that's not true. In my opinion, Chrysler chose to stop due to quality issues of the Components.

Nothing is impossible, but it would be far more easy to install a 12 volt actuator and an electric circuit.
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1960fury
Posted 2019-11-22 5:54 PM (#590570 - in reply to #590569)
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wizard - 2019-11-22 5:19 PM

The "full automatic" sviwel seats was an option to the sviwel seats option in 1960 only.



You mean you when you ordered the optional swivel seats you had to special order it as an automatic version? I don't think so. From where do you have this information? All my literature (60 Plymouth, press kit, magazines, etc) just says for 1960 it is automatic.
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wizard
Posted 2019-11-23 5:02 AM (#590592 - in reply to #590564)
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Yes Sid, the manual sviwel seats had a price tag of $87 while the automatic swivel seats had a price tag of $121.

It seems like the option with automatic sviwel seats included the 6-way Power seat rails as well.

Otherwise you could get the sviwel seats;

- manual swivel seat, manual seat rails
- manual swivel seats, 6-way Power seat rails
- automatic swivel seats, 6-way Power seat rails (code 473)

Source Chrysler 1960 dealers album, Ross Roy.


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1960fury
Posted 2019-11-23 7:01 AM (#590596 - in reply to #590564)
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Okay, I so I guess for 60 Chrysler only. No such thing in my literature about 1960 Plymouth.
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wizard
Posted 2019-11-23 8:02 AM (#590598 - in reply to #590564)
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We have lernt one thing from this forum and that is to never say that things was done "by the book".

That said, it's not plausible that the low end Plymouths would have the most luxorious swivel seat option as "standard option"

I still haven't seen a Plymouth with swivel seats, not even the manual ones (naturally, they must be out there somewhere), but I've seen demounted swivel seats from the low end cars for sale.

Those ones normally have less chromed moldings ( I bought one for my car and got hold of the chromed moldings from a member on our forum)

Should you have some photos of '60 Plymouths or Dodges with the swivel seat option Sid, please post them here as I and many would appreciate it.
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1960fury
Posted 2019-11-24 7:03 AM (#590646 - in reply to #590564)
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I have seen alot 60 plymouths with swivel seats. Also, of course the "brochure car" is one, but of course you can't see if it's automatic or manual. I will check the A-pillars today, 60 vs 61, if they are really different and depending on what I find out I will judge your statement by that even though it has nothing to do with the manual/automatic thing :D
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GregCon
Posted 2019-11-24 8:46 AM (#590647 - in reply to #590646)
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It's pretty obvious that 'the doors popped open and threw out wifey' is a complete myth. If it were true, it would have become standard equipment on every vehicle built since 1960....!
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Phatton
Posted 2019-11-24 10:11 AM (#590655 - in reply to #590564)
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A long time ago I owned a 59 sport fury with mech swivel front seat. I know the drivers side swiveled - I can't remember if the passenger side also swiveled.
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