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60 Imp
Posted 2019-12-31 6:46 PM (#592323)
Subject: 58 Plymouth, Graveyard cars.


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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Plymouth-Fury/164010860306?hash=item26...



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2019-12-31 7:07 PM (#592325 - in reply to #592323)
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good description, strong bidding!

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CaprockClassics
Posted 2020-01-01 9:48 AM (#592341 - in reply to #592323)
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Yeah, except the story is full of inaccuracies and BS. Claims it was an original 1958 Fury they started with, but then says it was an Original Red/White car, which is impossible. Then later mentions that it originally had the Savoy interior. again, I thought it was an original Fury? Then add in the claims that "it's one of the most stunning and correct Christine tribute cars"????? WTF. Then goes on to say that the headliner was redone with bows rather than the original fiber-board paneling, and talks up the interior fabrics/vinyl, making it sounds like they found the last collection of NOS materials when in reality they just bought it all from SMS like we all can.

"The door trim panel bucks were made by Jim as well and are exact duplicates to the ones that appeared in the movie car. Including reliefs for the attaching clips. (most people choose to screw them on)." I have never in my entire life seen a restored Fury/Christine car with screwed on door panels. Again, all hype.

I'll close with this final quote: "Final assembly and delivery will be May 2020." So a bidder is going to buy the car undone, and then is forced to allow them to finish it and can't take delivery for 5 months? You can buy a much better car for the money it's already bid to...

~Peter
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56300B
Posted 2020-01-01 2:35 PM (#592346 - in reply to #592323)
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Kinda sounds like Worman needs some $$$$ and can't wait until May. What are the odds it won't be finished by May? Run Forrest Run...………
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2020-01-01 4:52 PM (#592356 - in reply to #592346)
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Am I the only one who finds such hype nauseating ? This axxclown
should be hawking turd popsicles to tourists at the sewage plant.

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b5rt
Posted 2020-01-01 7:35 PM (#592360 - in reply to #592323)
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I saw the episode where they were removing the headliner. Obviously had no clue what they were doing... but then they're a Mopar muscle shop. Probably the first pre-62 that's ever been in the shop.

The car was a disaster when they got it. Floors and trunk made out of corrugated wall panels. Not a whole lot of time was spent documenting the teardown like they do on some of the rarer cars.
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2020-01-01 10:26 PM (#592369 - in reply to #592323)
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The quarter panels are being redone because the bondo is cracking lol
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1960fury
Posted 2020-01-02 6:07 AM (#592372 - in reply to #592323)
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The description fits sooo well what I said about this build/builder in another thread.....
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ronbo97
Posted 2020-01-02 8:39 AM (#592374 - in reply to #592372)
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Puffery at its finest.

He never mentions if it even runs.

Even if it does, will this be street legal ? Engine is way too powerful for the body.

A piece of automotive history ???? What a crock !

Shill bidding ?????????

Ron

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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-01-02 10:17 AM (#592376 - in reply to #592369)
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Paul Hettick - 2020-01-01 10:26 PM The quarter panels are being redone because the bondo is cracking lol

 

eh he did the body right, theres no real bondo in that.  I mean there is video of the work

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GregCon
Posted 2020-01-02 11:20 AM (#592378 - in reply to #592323)
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He also says after you buy it, you have to let them have it back for SEMA.

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Paul Hettick
Posted 2020-01-02 11:53 AM (#592380 - in reply to #592323)
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The text in the ad states the filler is cracking around the molding holes
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1960fury
Posted 2020-01-02 1:20 PM (#592385 - in reply to #592380)
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Paul Hettick - 2020-01-02 11:53 AM

The text in the ad states the filler is cracking around the molding holes


Instead of of putting a Fiat engine in it, he should have restored it properly, that also wouldn't have made him a liar about the history.
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Cmangeot
Posted 2020-01-02 1:41 PM (#592386 - in reply to #592385)
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I will concede to 1960fury that his former statements regarding this car were correct. At that time, I challenged his opinions, but I must admit, the whole presentation by this guy, including the photos is one big joke.
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johnnybuick
Posted 2020-01-04 2:23 AM (#592443 - in reply to #592323)
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I agree with Ron, .. that car will diamond for sure if there was no further bracing to the chassis especially when them front wheels come off the ground.. Mmmm reached past $110k reserve not met

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Powerflite
Posted 2020-01-04 11:49 AM (#592453 - in reply to #592323)
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No chance of the front wheels getting air with those tires & rear suspension. Hit the throttle and just slide around. Pretty pointless to have that much power in that car. Anyone know what an A41 4-speed auto overdrive trans is?
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-01-04 12:49 PM (#592456 - in reply to #592323)
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is a GM based trans... the drive train can handle the power... the chassis? eh...
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-01-04 12:51 PM (#592457 - in reply to #592323)
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GM what? Why not call it by it's proper name? What does A41 mean?
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w.weiland
Posted 2020-01-04 5:52 PM (#592468 - in reply to #592323)
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A frame will never diamond from torque. to diamond a frame you have to have a front impact or rear impact.

it can twist never diamond

how do i know or support that heavy hit collision tech for 26+ years
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BlueGhost
Posted 2020-01-10 5:20 PM (#592754 - in reply to #592457)
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Powerflite - 2020-01-04 11:51 AM

GM what? Why not call it by it's proper name? What does A41 mean?


It's what Silver Sport calls their 4L60 with a Mopar bell housing.

https://shiftsst.com/blog/post/mopar-street-rod-and-truck.html

Good option if you have a B/RB and want an overdrive. Don't know why you would use it behind a modern Hemi over a Chrysler OD. I'm guessing the modern Chrysler trans is too big.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-01-10 6:10 PM (#592757 - in reply to #592323)
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To me, it sounds like they are trying to hide the fact that it is really just a 4L60E that you can purchase from anywhere and use an adapter, or their bell housing. They really should just be selling bell housings, but I seriously doubt that they will sell them separately. Same ol' crap that Keisler was doing before them. But for us, with extended cranshafts, we pretty much have to use an adapter anyway so there's no point to purchasing an expensive bell housing. Also, I have found that overdrive on an automatic isn't really worth the trouble or expense.

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firedome
Posted 2020-01-11 12:27 PM (#592785 - in reply to #592323)
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Any number of Swedes or places like R&M & others here on this side of the pond could have done a far superior restoration to this tarted up muscle-turd that was built to appeal to 8 year old mentalities.
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1960fury
Posted 2020-01-11 1:46 PM (#592791 - in reply to #592785)
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firedome - 2020-01-11 12:27 PM

Any number of Swedes or places like R&M & others here on this side of the pond could have done a far superior restoration to this tarted up muscle-turd that was built to appeal to 8 year old mentalities.


Exactly
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