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bbdakota
Posted 2020-05-30 6:10 PM (#599007 - in reply to #595878)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Royal 4dr hardtop


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Pulled the valve covers, one rocker shaft was just getting oil. Pulled it anyway and rolled it over. It's getting oil. I took a pump oiller and filled the shaft with oil. Pulled one bolt one the other side and filled the shaft with oil. I was just impatient I guess but if I ever do this again, I'll fill the shafts with oil.
I do still have a lifter tapping that was quite before but could be because the plungeris not exactly operating in the same position as before. I measured the old head gaskets and the new head gaskets and had the machine shop surface the heads by that amount. .025". But there was 9 rockers I had resurfaced so some lifters are not operating in the same range as before.
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bbdakota
Posted 2020-05-30 8:46 PM (#599015 - in reply to #595878)
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Well I run it thru a full heat cycle and the lifter tap is so faint now someone would have to be listening for it. Also the water leaks around the intake are not much of anything, not enough to form a run and not much of a drop. This is with the coolant system pressurized. I think I'll run it a bit and keep an eye on it.
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samstrader
Posted 2020-05-31 12:11 AM (#599018 - in reply to #595878)
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The JB Weld repair looks great. Since you cleaned and roughed up the surface so well, I'll bet it will work like a champ. It looks great.

I also just read your thread about the rocker shaft not being full of oil. I'm going to change my driver side shaft next week and I'll fill the shaft with oil just like you said. I pulled and cleaned both of my shafts last month and just ran the engine until they filled up from the engine running. Since I had oiled everything before, I didn't hear too much tapping but it got quieter after it got oiled up. I think you were worried about running for 20 seconds without oil but I don't think you need to worry. My engine had the cam bearing that supplies oil to the driver side rockers installed wrong and I drove the car for more than 500 miles without a drop of oil to the rockers. The damage was two intake rockers messed up and three push rods messed up. The shaft was OK. Less damage than you would think. I replaced the two bad intake rockers with NOS rockers I got off of ebay. I have the small tapping like you and am hoping that when I change the push rods that the tapping will stop. I'll definitely fill up the shaft with oil before starting this time. Very good idea.
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samstrader
Posted 2020-05-31 12:33 AM (#599021 - in reply to #595878)
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Regarding your water leak on the intake manifold. I don't know if the same as mine but on mine the two middle bolts on each side that hold the intake manifold down, you have to us a thread sealant on these bolts because bolt holes are drilled into the water jacket. The first time I installed, I didn't seal the threads and it leaked very slightly and made an ugly spot. This last install, I put Permatex Black RTV gasket maker on the threads and torqued them down and there is no leaking at all. The RTV works real good for sealing the threads. This would be easy to do if you think it is what is needed on yours. Just have to lower the water level in the radiator some and install RTV on the threads one bolt at a time. On mine, I also cleaned the threads in the block and bolts with a tap and die and degreased them with brake parts cleaner before installing the RTV (put RTV on bolts only, not in the bolt hole). There are two bolts on each side that need to have the threads sealed. Counting from the end of the head, it's bolts 4 and 5.

May not be the same as yours but this is how mine worked.
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bbdakota
Posted 2020-05-31 3:11 PM (#599041 - in reply to #595878)
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Thanks Sam. I did put sealant on the threads of those bolts. Looks like the leak is due to the embossed steel type gaskets and a 60 year old not so perfect surface. I ordered some gaskets but I'm still hopeful it will seal on its own.

No leaks from the transmission or engine (oil)! No puff of smoke upon startup! No freeze plug leaks! I'm happy! Took the car down the road without a hood just to make sure the transmission shifted. I did have some trouble getting the cable adjustment right but it's good now.
Oh, and the lifter noise is gone!
Next I'll clean and paint the hood hinges, hood latch and horns and bottom side of the hood.
BTW, before I took the engine and transmission out, we took the car to a show about an hour away. The engine got hot (not over heated) but it started acting like it was vapor locking. When we got to the show, the fuel was bubbling (maybe boiling just a bit) in the glass fuel bowl just as it enters the carb. So I ordered one of them isolation type spacers and installed during this time. It is amazing how much cooler the carb is compared to the intake! I highly recommend if anyone is suffering from vaper lock!
I had other things fighting my ability to disperse heat, the water jackets was full of what reminded me of mud. Could have been stop leak. It was capped up behind the freeze plugs and no doubt contributed to the freeze plugs deteriorating. That's another reason I put a new aluminum radiator in it. If that was stop leak, what did the inside of the radiator look like? Plus, a modern aluminum radiator is more efficient anyway and I'll be adding ac so I probably needed to upgrade the radiator.
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samstrader
Posted 2020-06-01 9:09 AM (#599058 - in reply to #595878)
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I'm sure glad it is running so well and that the lifter noise is gone completely. (This gives me more hope on my lifter noise)...I got a new intake manifold gasket from Hot Heads the last time I installed my intake manifold and it was just a Garlock type material. Zero metal. It worked good but I did wonder why no metal now. I think it was a Best Gasket.

I have one of those insulator gaskets on my carburetor and didn't realize what it was for. One thing I did that helped my car run more balanced and cooler was to wire open the exhaust valve on the Passenger side manifold. Mine valve did move but put too much exhaust up to the Carburetor and over to the driver side. With it wired open, my paint on the intake manifold is not burning up and the engine has a more balanced run. The engine also runs cooler. I don't know if all is related to the valve being wired open but everything happened for the better after I wired it open.

I'm glad you engine is running so good. I have a rear main seal leak. How did you install your rear main seal so you don't have a leak. That's been an ongoing problem for me. I must not have done something correct on mine when I installed it.

Glad your engine is running so good...

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bbdakota
Posted 2020-06-01 5:32 PM (#599073 - in reply to #595878)
Subject: Re: 56 Dodge Royal 4dr hardtop


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I didn't do anything special on the rear main seal. The one that came in my gasket kit was rubber vs the old rope seal I took out. I did clean the mating surface of the rear main cap good and apply a thin film of rtv but I always do that on a rear cap that houses the seal.
My heat riser is stuck open so I'm good there. I'm probably going to have to pull the intake but not yet.... I'm gonna watch it for the time being.
I did read and keep up with your rocker oiling issue, glad you got that straight....I can imagine you was not very happy.
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