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56D500boy
Posted 2020-08-07 5:57 PM (#601771)
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For reasons, not 100% clear, I want to annotate the illustration below with the 19 body/model codes that were supposed out there. I have collected a few codes from 57 Dodge Cowl Tags and Build sheets and can find more by searching the archives of this forum. However, it would be way easier if some one can point me to a previously consolidated list of the four digit 57 Dodge body/model codes.



This is what I want to annotate:





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LD3 Greg
Posted 2020-08-07 9:36 PM (#601781 - in reply to #601771)
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Here is a pretty much complete list. Charts I made in the 1980s.

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Posted 2020-08-07 11:33 PM (#601786 - in reply to #601781)
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LD3 Greg - 2020-08-07 6:36 PM
Here is a pretty much complete list. Charts I made in the 1980s. Greg


Thanks Greg. I had seen those before, but after recently going through both the 1955 and 1956 Dodge body codes, I can see much clearer how and why your charts work. I will try confirming some of the cowl data tags that I have for 1957 Dodges against your chart(s) to get an even better feel for it tomorrow. I can see a big table (chart) with 1955, 1956 and 1957 Dodge body codes in my near future (if it is rainy tomorrow here in the Vancouver BC area)



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Posted 2020-08-08 12:22 AM (#601787 - in reply to #601786)
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LD3 Greg - 2020-08-07 6:36 PM
Here is a pretty much complete list. Charts I made in the 1980s. Greg


Thanks Greg. I had seen those before, but after recently going through both the 1955 and 1956 Dodge body codes, I can see much clearer how and why your charts work. I will try confirming some of the cowl data tags that I have for 1957 Dodges against your chart(s) to get an even better feel for it tomorrow. I can see a big table (chart) with 1955, 1956 and 1957 Dodge body codes in my near future (if it is rainy tomorrow here in the Vancouver BC area)





Confirm away! Send 'em to me. Been doing this for longer than I can easily remember! This 57 stuff is crazy difficult!!

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Posted 2020-08-08 9:35 AM (#601791 - in reply to #601787)
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LD3 Greg - 2020-08-07 10:22 PM This 57 stuff is crazy difficult!! Greg

Hi Greg, (and Dave) would you be so kind as to offer your opinion on why this over complication / confusing situation happened in 1957 ? Thanks, Ray. 

 

 

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Posted 2020-08-08 11:49 AM (#601797 - in reply to #601791)
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Old Ray - 2020-08-08 6:35 AM
LD3 Greg - 2020-08-07 10:22 PM This 57 stuff is crazy difficult!! Greg
Hi Greg, (and Dave) would you be so kind as to offer your opinion on why this over complication / confusing situation happened in 1957 ? Thanks, Ray.


I have the same question(s). One question that I will add right now is "Why would they bother with the "1" Make Code for 118 inch wheel base cars? All the US-built Dodges were 122 inch. Are we talking Plodges built for Canada?"

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Posted 2020-08-08 4:05 PM (#601802 - in reply to #601771)
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I have following information:

1957 DODGE LINEUP

CORONET L6

2112 = 2door Sedan
2115 = 4door Sedan

CORONET V8

2142 = 2door Sedan
2145 = 4door Sedan
2146 = Lancer 2door Hardtop
2149 = Lancer 4door Hardtop
2143 = Lancer Convertible
2167 = Suburban 2door Station Wagon, 6P
2168 = Sierra 4door Station Wagon, 6P
2368 = Sierra Spectator 4door Station Wagon, 9P

ROYAL V8

2175 = 4door Sedan
2176 = Lancer 2door Hardtop
2179 = Lancer 4door Hardtop

CUSTOM ROYAL V8

2285 = 4door Sedan
2286 = Lancer 2door Hardtop
2289 = Lancer 4door Hardtop
2283 = Lancer Convertible
2298 = Sierra 4door Station Wagon, 6P
2398 = Sierra Spectator 4door Station Wagon, 9P

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Posted 2020-08-08 4:35 PM (#601803 - in reply to #601771)
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Maybe it is not important, but DeSoto Firesweep was built in Dodge Main Plant at Hamtramck also and had similar body codes…

1957 DESOTO FIRESWEEP L6

3115 = 4door Sedan Taxicab

1957 DESOTO FIRESWEEP V8

3145 = 4door Sedan
3146 = Sportsman 2door Hardtop
3149 = Sportsman 4door Hardtop
3148 = Shopper 4door Station Wagon, 6P
3348 = Explorer 4door Station Wagon, 9P

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56D500boy
Posted 2020-08-08 8:22 PM (#601806 - in reply to #601802)
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frwl - 2020-08-08 1:05 PM I have following information:
1957 DODGE LINEUP


Igor: Very good. Thanks for that. I checked your list against some of the 57 Dodge build tags and/or IBM cards that I have collected (images) and your list works well. Thanks.

The only thing that I am not 100% sure about is the wagons, particularly the Spectator 9 passenger wagons, and the "3" chassis code and the 6 vs 9 passenger capacity. According to your list, the only thing that distinguishes a 6P from a 9P wagon is the chassis code, i.e. "2" = 6P and "3" = 9P. (??)

I am also surprised that there isn't a 6 cylinder 2dr Coronet wagon, e.g. a 2117.

Some of the tags/IBM cards that I have, that aren't on the list, include:

2543 = Dodge, HD V8 chassis, V8 Coronet, convertible (known D500 with KD500-11819)

2546 = Dodge, HD V8 chassis, V8 Coronet, 2dr Hardtop (Lancer)

2568 = Dodge, HD V8 chassis, Sierra, 6P 4 dr wagon, possibly D500 but the engine was missing in action.

2583 = Dodge, HD Chassis, Custom Royal, Convertible

2586 = Dodge, HD V8 chassis, Custom Royal, 2dr Hardtop (known D500 with KD500-5484)

2589 = Dodge, HD Chassis, Custom Royal, 4 dr Hardtop (Lancer)

I might have collected the above based on them being D500 related but I can not confirm the D500 codes on the cowl tags (I know that D500 = 372 and Super D500 = 491 on the broadcast sheet/IBM card but I am not sure what they end up to be on the cowl data tag(s).


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Posted 2020-08-09 1:32 AM (#601813 - in reply to #601806)
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Dave, I have something that confirms 2586. I also have some other numbers that are not listed here.
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2586 - Custom Royal, Hardtop 2dr, V8, KD500
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2143 –
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2576 –
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2742 – Coronet, sedan, V8, KD500
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Posted 2020-08-09 2:35 AM (#601816 - in reply to #601813)
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RDP - 2020-08-08 10:32 PM
Dave, I have something that confirms 2586. I also have some other numbers that are not listed here..
2586 - Custom Royal, Hardtop 2dr, V8, KD500 .
2143 – .
2576 – .
2742 – Coronet, sedan, V8, KD500


Thanks Robert. Got the email. Great stuff. The only one that hurts my head is the 2742. The second digit, i.e. the "7" is supposed to be the chassis code. LD3_Greg's chassis list only goes to 6. No 7. So I am confused.

Greg? Both the FCA Historical letter and the IBM card say 2742. Was there a 7th chassis? Is this the "Big Brake" version of the 5 or 6 code chassis?





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Posted 2020-08-09 10:05 AM (#601820 - in reply to #601816)
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No Dave, I have it on good authority that the "7" were built at Area 51 as a special secret vehicle project for the aliens to drive, this plant was staffed by the engineers from other plants that had overdosed on the LSD in the water coolers to a such a extent that they were not rehabilitate-able and were assigned to this project.

 (Sorry, I am trying very hard to understand / explain the cuckoo's nest

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Posted 2020-08-09 10:55 AM (#601823 - in reply to #601820)
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Old Ray - 2020-08-09 7:05 AM
No Dave, I have it on good authority that the "7" were built at Area 51 as a special secret vehicle project for the aliens to drive,


The 2742 car is a D500 (372 on the IBM card) (Engine KD500-12275) according to the info RDP sent me to clarify 2742.

That might well be true but Greg L did hint at a "7" in page 1 of his 57 Dodge info regarding somebody named Ryan's car:



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LD3 Greg
Posted 2020-08-09 11:49 AM (#601827 - in reply to #601797)
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Sorry for the delay. To respond in chronological order:
Dave, Ray. Yes, those are the puzzling questions. Still today. Maybe when Dave gets the 55-57 chart done it may be an evolutionary thing?? Ply and Chry are easy so why is Dodge so difficult. My personal theory is that Ply/Chry dealers had low priced Ply to offer so Dodge/Des had to have same. One could buy a cheap Dodge and the junkyards were full of them back in the day. But, one could also load up a Dodge with options. Not very many Custom Royals in those yards!!

Lots of 118" WB Dodges, Plodges or whatever they were called built in U.S. Export only?

The Firesweep examples given fit my charts.

Tha 3 chassis code was extremely rare. It was HD chassis equipment only. Igor, the only 3 code wagon I ever saw belonged to Don Parke and I verified the torsion bar numbers and rear spring numbers right in his driveway. It was an extremely well preserved and documented 6 passenger wagon. Probably still on the road today!

No distinction between D500 and Super D on the body plate for 57.

Check my latest chassis chart for 7. It is penned in. You will recall I asked Ryan to check the torsion bar and rear spring part numbers. I haven't heard back. So, still unknown!

Footnote:

My/our work was ALL done on actual cars. Jacked 'em up and crawled under to document all the applicable part numbers. We were as thorough as possible. Our notes were based on facts not someone else's literature. Remember, we had hundreds of these cares in junkyards in those days and most of the owners who we were corresponding with had numerous parts cars as well. The good old days!! Neil chased down dozens and dozens of owners. Before the Internet to hear from other car guys by snail mail was a real treat! All ready to get their hands dirty and help!
From what I am hearing, most of these cars have been scrapped or gone to Sweden.

Greg



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Posted 2020-08-09 12:08 PM (#601829 - in reply to #601771)
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Dave. Ryan's car is that Missouri Highway Patrol car. There were several threads on it. Very interesting! But, same old story. Creates more questions than it answers!.

I can't search with this really old iPad. I keep it so I can post here.

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Posted 2020-08-09 12:48 PM (#601832 - in reply to #601829)
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The other thing to keep in mind is that equipment was frequently ordered by “special order”. So, there may be equipment present that has nothing to do with the model/body/chassis codes we are interested in. Special order numbers could be present on the broadcast sheets and punch cards and these numbers likely refer only to a customers purchase order and not to any specific equipment.

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Posted 2020-08-09 2:51 PM (#601836 - in reply to #601823)
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Not withstanding all the "oddballs" with the EDIT: 25 and 27 chassis designations, here is a consolidated 1955, 1956 and 1957 Dodge Model/Body code list. There are some issues that need to be resolved regarding wagons, e.g. the Custom Sierras moved up from Royals to Custom Royals in 1957 and one or two 2 dr wagons might (or might not) have been dropped in 1957.

It's "Rev0" so errors can be corrected. I plan to put the "oddballs" on the side with notes. (Mostly D500s)

Thanks for the input Igor, Robert and Greg

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Posted 2020-08-09 3:23 PM (#601837 - in reply to #601771)
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Hello Greg. Thanks for your response.

I think the 3 chassis coded 9 passenger wagons because of the bigger weight coming on the back of the car – that's where the extra three passengers were placed. Therefore, the heavy duty rear torsion bars and springs were installed. But you are talking about Don Parke six passenger wagon… Weird. Maybe this option was standard on the 9 passenger wagons and optional on 6 passenger wagons? Can you post a cowl tag picture of this car?

Dave: 1957 Dodge Royal series has not Station Wagons (2168 & 2368) – Coronet and Custom Royal have only…
Not sure about Six Cylinder Coronet Suburban 2117 – there are 19 models listed above in your add…
Where did you get info about this body style existence 2117?

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Posted 2020-08-09 4:50 PM (#601838 - in reply to #601837)
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frwl - 2020-08-09 3:23 PM

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Hello Greg. Thanks for your response.

I think the 3 chassis coded 9 passenger wagons because of the bigger weight coming on the back of the car – that's where the extra three passengers were placed. Therefore, the heavy duty rear torsion bars and springs were installed. But you are talking about Don Parke six passenger wagon… Weird. Maybe this option was standard on the 9 passenger wagons and optional on 6 passenger wagons? Can you post a cowl tag picture of this car?

Dave: 1957 Dodge Royal series has not Station Wagons (2168 & 2368) – Coronet and Custom Royal have only…
Not sure about Six Cylinder Coronet Suburban 2117 – there are 19 models listed above in your add…
Where did you get info about this body style existence 2117?

:)

Hello Igor,
I completely agree with you. I also think 9 passenger wagons would have the 3 chassis. I wish we had more wagon examples. We found a car or two also with the 3 chassis so that is why I said what I did. Unfortunately Neil was the one with the most photos. I didn’t have a decent camera in the early days.

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Posted 2020-08-09 4:52 PM (#601839 - in reply to #601837)
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frwl - 2020-08-09 12:23 PM
Dave: 1957 Dodge Royal series has not Station Wagons (2168 & 2368) – Coronet and Custom Royal have only…
Not sure about Six Cylinder Coronet Suburban 2117 – there are 19 models listed above in your add…
Where did you get info about this body style existence 2117?


I know that the 57 Dodge Royals didn't have any Station wagons. That is why there is "N/A" ( as in NOT APPLICABLE) in those 57 Royal cells beside the 1956 Royal wagon cells (in 1956 Custom Suburban and Custom Sierras were based on the 56 Royals).

t seems like there could have or should have been a 2dr 6 cylinder Coronet-based wagon in 1957 so I made "2117" up (which is why it is highlit in yellow). But I'm probably wrong. Unless somebody can confirm 2117, I will remove that info in the next Revision of the table ("Rev1")

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Posted 2020-08-09 5:35 PM (#601841 - in reply to #601836)
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56D500boy - 2020-08-09 2:51 PM

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Not withstanding all the "oddballs" with the heavy duty 25 and 27 chassis, here is a consolidated 1955, 1956 and 1957 Dodge Model/Body code list. There are some issues that need to be resolved regarding wagons, e.g. the Custom Sierras moved up from Royals to Custom Royals in 1957 and one or two 2 dr wagons might (or might not) have been dropped in 1957.

It's "Rev0" so errors can be corrected. I plan to put the "oddballs" on the side with notes. (Mostly D500s)

Thanks for the input Igor, Robert and Greg :)


Dave, thanks for the chart.
25 is not HD. It is standard chassis for the particular model and signifies the only optional engines. D500 or Super D.

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Posted 2020-08-09 8:44 PM (#601845 - in reply to #601841)
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LD3 Greg - 2020-08-09 2:35 PM Dave, thanks for the chart.
25 is not HD. It is standard chassis for the particular model and signifies the only optional engines. D500 or Super D.


Greg: I have edited my comment regarding 25 and 27 being HD chassis. More to come.

While we are talking 25, say I am looking at a 2576 car. I know now that it should probably be a D-500 or Super D-500 car. I know that one the broadcast sheet and/or IBM card, D500 = a 2 punched in the 37th card column as in 372 and Super D-500 = a 1 punched in the 49th column as in 491. I know that 323 = Torqueflite on the 1957 Dodge broadcast sheet translates to 293 on the 57 Dodge cowl tag. BUT I do *NOT* know how the 372 or 491 translates to the 57 Dodge cowl tag to confirm the D500 (or Super D500) engine. Please help me understand.

Example (courtesy of RDP (Robert)). In this case 372 = the "2" in the fifth spot from the upper right corner of the IBM card.





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Posted 2020-08-09 10:06 PM (#601848 - in reply to #601845)
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LD3 Greg - 2020-08-09 2:35 PM Dave, thanks for the chart.
25 is not HD. It is standard chassis for the particular model and signifies the only optional engines. D500 or Super D.


Greg: I have edited my comment regarding 25 and 27 being HD chassis. More to come.
BUT I do *NOT* know how the 372 or 491 translates to the 57 Dodge cowl tag to confirm the D500 (or Super D500) engine. Please help me understand





They do not translate to the body plate to differentiate D500 from Super D. The body assembly and paint guys obviously didn't need to know. It didn't influence the work they were doing. The foreman surely had copies of the broadcast sheets.

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Didn't want to spoil the body codes listing, but this is a new «oddball»…
Drum roll...
Body Code 2558…
Looks like that is Custom Sierra Station Wagon (according to the trim code 231…)
Greg: what do you think?
The crossed out MODEL CODE column 5 in your «1957 U. S. – BUILT DODGEBODY CODElist is still relevant…




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395 on the tag = 395 on the IBM card = Solex Tinted Glass with Shaded Windshield
469 on the tag = 339 on the IBM card = Power Brakes
485 on the tag = 675 on the IBM card = Delivery Route (no idea what)
502 on the tag = 332 on the IBM card = Accessory Group No. 2 – Radio Group
513 on the tag = 333 on the IBM card = Accessory Group No. 3 – Convenience Group
585 on the tag = 335 on the IBM card = Accessory Group No. 5 – Deluxe Appearance Group




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Hello Igor,
That is interesting! I must have found a similar wagon with a 5 in the body code. I had initially called it D 70 Suburban. I don’t know why I crossed it out. Seemed unnecessary? Maybe an error? Now, with another one —— no error!
That wagon is pretty messed up. Not a very good sample but you have a copy of it’s punch card. That should give some clues.

I agree with your decoding of the body plate and a 5 in the route space is “ delivered by truck”. Not sure where Neil got those codes. Maybe from delivery slips or invoices that he found?!

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Igor: Can you post an image of the IBM card for that 2558 car to confirm the KD500 engine?

Greg: So just so I am clear, the break down for 2558 is:

2 = 122 inch wheel base 57 Dodge

5 = Chassis for D500 and Super D500 (engine bay seems to show a KD500 but only the IBM card can confirm that)

5= D70 Suburban (which somehow is different than the "6" = D70 Suburban and Sierra (??))

8 = 4 dr "Suburban" (which is generally confusing because in 1955 and 1956 Suburban = 2dr wagon and Sierra = 4 dr wagon)

I am a bit surprised that it isn't 2598 because I see grill/bumper teeth which I thought = Custom Sierra.




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Dave, Greg: Unfortunately, there is no IBM card for the model 2558 – I would post it right away. I'd like to see it myself.

Another car I posted below has IBM card, but has not a cowl tag.
This is a 9-seat Custom Sierra Spectator model 2398 (with HD chassis = code 3) to confirm body codes list.
Notice the car has trim code 231 as the model 2558 shown above…






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Looks like it has equipped with aftermarket Air Conditioning - no coded in the Broadcast Sheet...

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Greg: I have some delivery codes (so far). Can you confirm, deny or add something to this list (of course if you know)?

481 on the tag = 671 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Boat (need to confirm)
482 on the tag = 672 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
483 on the tag = 673 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
484 on the tag = 674 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
485 on the tag = 675 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Truck
486 on the tag = 676 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
487 on the tag = 677 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Dealer’s Own Truck

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Posted 2020-08-10 2:56 PM (#601875 - in reply to #601869)
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56D500boy - 2020-08-10 1:28 PM

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Igor: Can you post an image of the IBM card for that 2558 car to confirm the KD500 engine?

Greg: So just so I am clear, the break down for 2558 is:

2 = 122 inch wheel base 57 Dodge

5 = Chassis for D500 and Super D500 (engine bay seems to show a KD500 but only the IBM card can confirm that)

5= D70 Suburban (which somehow is different than the "6" = D70 Suburban and Sierra (??))

8 = 4 dr "Suburban" (which is generally confusing because in 1955 and 1956 Suburban = 2dr wagon and Sierra = 4 dr wagon)

I am a bit surprised that it isn't 2598 because I see grill/bumper teeth which I thought = Custom Sierra.






Dave: that's about it! Just more questions.
The bumper teeth, spuds, are options and could be ordered on any car. My clue for Custom Sierra would be the trim code, as Igor mentioned. And of course the pics of the interior.

Igor: that black wagon is gorgeous! Thanks for the pics.
BTW. the middle seat panels are actually cloth. Same for a 57 Convert which seems odd because that cloth could get rained on!!

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Posted 2020-08-10 2:59 PM (#601876 - in reply to #601771)
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And Body Code 2298 with standard chassis (code 2) – no IBM card, cowl tag only
No info about engine
Bad to see: is that 6 passenger or 9 passenger wagon? Looks like 6 passenger…

293 on the tag = 323 on the IBM card = Torqueflite
324 on the tag = 374 on the IBM card = Heater (?) – Greg: tell me if you know…
487 on the tag = 677 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Dealer’s Own Truck

469 on the tag = 339 on the IBM card = EMPTY – Manual Brakes (no power assisted)
Power Steering is not stamped…





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Posted 2020-08-10 3:07 PM (#601878 - in reply to #601873)
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frwl - 2020-08-10 2:44 PM

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Greg: I have some delivery codes (so far). Can you confirm, deny or add something to this list (of course if you know)?

481 on the tag = 671 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Boat (need to confirm)
482 on the tag = 672 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
483 on the tag = 673 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
484 on the tag = 674 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
485 on the tag = 675 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Truck
486 on the tag = 676 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
487 on the tag = 677 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Dealer’s Own Truck

:)


That's what I think too but I can't confirm. I will send you an email.

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Posted 2020-08-10 3:17 PM (#601881 - in reply to #601771)
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Today is an information day…
Body Code 2167 = 1957 Dodge Coronet Suburban 2door Station Wagon
No pictures, description etc. Broadcast sheet only…





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Posted 2020-08-10 3:22 PM (#601882 - in reply to #601771)
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Could the Suburban be a four door?




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Posted 2020-08-10 5:01 PM (#601888 - in reply to #601882)
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frwl - 2020-08-10 3:22 PM

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Could the Suburban be a four door?


Yes.
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Posted 2020-08-10 5:03 PM (#601889 - in reply to #601876)
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frwl - 2020-08-10 2:59 PM

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And Body Code 2298 with standard chassis (code 2) – no IBM card, cowl tag only
No info about engine
Bad to see: is that 6 passenger or 9 passenger wagon? Looks like 6 passenger…

293 on the tag = 323 on the IBM card = Torqueflite
324 on the tag = 374 on the IBM card = Heater (?) – Greg: tell me if you know…
487 on the tag = 677 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Dealer’s Own Truck

469 on the tag = 339 on the IBM card = EMPTY – Manual Brakes (no power assisted)
Power Steering is not stamped…



Yes. 374 is heater/defroster

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Posted 2020-08-10 5:34 PM (#601890 - in reply to #601771)
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Not sure if I like this or not.

EDIT: I like it enough to say "My work here is done". I am not going to continue with the 57 Dodge Wagons and their many iterations. I'll leave that in the capable hands of Greg and Igor.



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Posted 2020-08-10 5:38 PM (#601892 - in reply to #601882)
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frwl - 2020-08-10 12:22 PM
Could the Suburban be a four door?


Igor: Sorry. You need to do more research on that car. The one in the photo is NOT the 2167 car. It is actually a D500 (engines missing).

2167 = 2 dr

The one in the photo has a big discussion about why it has "Suburban" on the fender when it is clearly a Sierra (even has the Sierra badge on the rear fender).



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Posted 2020-08-10 9:20 PM (#601900 - in reply to #601892)
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frwl - 2020-08-10 12:22 PM
Could the Suburban be a four door?


Igor: Sorry. You need to do more research on that car. The one in the photo is NOT the 2167 car. It is actually a D500 (engines missing).

2167 = 2 dr

The one in the photo has a big discussion about why it has "Suburban" on the fender when it is clearly a Sierra (even has the Sierra badge on the rear fender).

:(


Note: the chassis equipment is what separates the men from the boys. If we are talking about the car missing it’s engine, it doesn’t appear to have a sway bar so something is very wrong!!

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Posted 2020-08-10 9:21 PM (#601901 - in reply to #601771)
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And had a single exhaust!!

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frwl - 2020-08-10 2:44 PM

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Greg: I have some delivery codes (so far). Can you confirm, deny or add something to this list (of course if you know)?

481 on the tag = 671 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Boat (need to confirm)
482 on the tag = 672 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
483 on the tag = 673 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
484 on the tag = 674 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
485 on the tag = 675 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Truck
486 on the tag = 676 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – ?
487 on the tag = 677 on the IBM card = Delivery Route – By Dealer’s Own Truck

:)


That's what I think too but I can't confirm. I will send you an email.

Greg


I can confirm that 674 is Customer Drive Away

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Posted 2020-08-10 11:32 PM (#601908 - in reply to #601881)
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frwl - 2020-08-10 3:17 PM

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Today is an information day…
Body Code 2167 = 1957 Dodge Coronet Suburban 2door Station Wagon
No pictures, description etc. Broadcast sheet only…



I can confirm that 07 is code 707 is 8:00 X 14 WSW.
"". ". " C is code 663 is 3.36 to 1 axle ratio

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Posted 2020-08-12 12:06 PM (#601949 - in reply to #601771)
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Another LA-build «oddball»:
Equipped with a D500 engine, but body code 2146 (it should be 2546)
I found it when I was looking at the ads cars for sale
The owner told it was equipped with an original engine and NeilD500 helped him to decipher the tag…

Dave mentioned above that the D500 engine has code 372, and the Super D500 engine has code 491
So, can the code M3 = 2 (372) be D500 engine on the cowl tag? (because body code 2146, and not 2546)

Below I have given the full text of the ad for sale:

QUOTE:

Gentelemen, for your attention I offer a solid restoration project of unrestored D500 Coronet with rare options:

- car has original number matching D500 HEMI engine and Trans
- original RED/WHITE car
- car is rust free and basically complete
- car was built lt in L.A. and has the Custom Coronet interior motif
- it has the optional carpeting (rubber floor mat was standard quipment on Coros) which is a RARE option
- it has optional padded dash and a Jiffy Jet washer
- the manual-brake pedal shows little wear, so this car was not subjected to much stop-and-go driving.

It was built on or around 5/9/57, so it was built after a lot of early-car 'bugs' had been figured out and remedied.
IBM card copy will confirm all the rest of this car's OEM options.
It has damage on the right fender, i dont know the nature of it.
The car is located in Ayer, MA 01432.
NeilD500 helped me to decode the cowl tag.




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Typical. Just when you think you have it figured out, the exception to the rule pops up.

Igor: I've cross-referenced this find to the 1957 Dodge D500 body code thread as well:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=74433&...





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