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N.Fury
Posted 2021-06-23 2:23 AM (#613004)
Subject: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.


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I picked up a former drag car in the form of a 56 Fury. I had a 55 Plaza back in high school.





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ABloch
Posted 2021-06-23 8:19 AM (#613006 - in reply to #613004)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.



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N.Fury
Posted 2021-06-23 11:52 AM (#613019 - in reply to #613006)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.


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ABloch - 2021-06-23 8:19 AM

SCORE! Welcome to the forum.


Thanks! I’ve been on the hunt for a 55-56 Plymouth since my step dad sold mine for scrap while I was in boot camp many years ago.
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N.Fury
Posted 2021-06-23 1:13 PM (#613026 - in reply to #613004)
Subject: RE: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.


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The 1st template patch was close I’m size and shape, but not close enough. I also need to source the trim retaining clips.



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Powerflite
Posted 2021-06-23 3:46 PM (#613028 - in reply to #613004)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.



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Location: So. Cal		Congratulations on the new purchase! I used Auveco 2744 trim clips and they worked perfectly. I didn't install them correctly at first, but once I did, they worked great. I purchased them through RockAuto and got a bunch for a good price.
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Posted 2021-06-23 3:54 PM (#613029 - in reply to #613004)
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N.Fury
Posted 2021-06-23 8:21 PM (#613034 - in reply to #613028)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.


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Powerflite - 2021-06-23 3:46 PM

Congratulations on the new purchase! I used Auveco 2744 trim clips and they worked perfectly. I didn't install them correctly at first, but once I did, they worked great. I purchased them through RockAuto and got a bunch for a good price.


Thanks! I will order a set to redo the trim. I appreciate the lead!
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N.Fury
Posted 2021-06-23 8:23 PM (#613035 - in reply to #613029)
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Powerflite - 2021-06-23 3:54 PM

If you can save your pictures as .jpg instead of .jpeg, then they will display on here without having to download them first.


Thank you- most of the forums I belong to use different posting tech. Most are Tapatalk app friendly. I’m slowly learning the subtle differences with this forum.
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58coupe
Posted 2021-06-24 11:44 AM (#613055 - in reply to #613004)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.



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N.Fury
Posted 2021-06-24 5:05 PM (#613073 - in reply to #613055)
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58coupe - 2021-06-24 11:44 AM

Are those extra front suspension parts or has something been changed on the car and these are the originals?


They’re extra suspension parts (complete minus the brake pads and coil springs). They look identical to the ones on the 56, I’m searching for part numbers on them to make sure I correctly ID them.
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N.Fury
Posted 2021-07-09 9:32 PM (#613382 - in reply to #613004)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.


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I have to start somewhere, and it might as well be the rear fender-wells. I knew some trimming was done, but wasn’t sure how much, and to what extent until today.


A template is mocked up, now for the metal version.

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Old Ray
Posted 2021-07-10 8:43 AM (#613389 - in reply to #613382)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.



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N.Fury - 2021-07-09 7:32 PM I have to start somewhere, and it might as well be the rear fender-wells. I knew some trimming was done, but wasn’t sure how much, and to what extent until today. A template is mocked up, now for the metal version.

Are these going to be removable fender skirts?

 

 

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N.Fury
Posted 2021-07-12 6:19 PM (#613450 - in reply to #613389)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.


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Old Ray - 2021-07-10 8:43 AM

N.Fury - 2021-07-09 7:32 PM I have to start somewhere, and it might as well be the rear fender-wells. I knew some trimming was done, but wasn’t sure how much, and to what extent until today. A template is mocked up, now for the metal version.

Are these going to be removable fender skirts?

 

 



Yes, they should be removable when it is all complete.

I think the PO cut out the fender well so he could fit larger rear tires on her. These 205’s seem to fit just fine in the space.

Everything seems to be going according to plan (especially for making a fender well from scratch based on a well used fender skirt!).

It’s in white primer, after the next round of sanding, there is still plenty to do.



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56D500boy
Posted 2021-07-12 7:41 PM (#613451 - in reply to #613450)
Subject: Re: 1956 Plymouth Fury, Spokane, WA.



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N.Fury - 2021-07-12 3:19 PM
I think the PO cut out the fender well so he could fit larger rear tires on her. These 205’s seem to fit just fine in the space.


56 Furys used the same 5.5" x 15" on a 5 by 4.5" bolt circle as my 56 Dodge D500 did when it left the factory.

In theory, the tire sizes for the 5.5" x 15" wheels were either 7.60 x 15 or 8.00 x 15. Both translate to P225/75/15s.





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Old Ray
Posted 2021-07-13 9:41 AM (#613462 - in reply to #613450)
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This what happens so that the wheels will come off when using a Dakota rear axle and 225/60R/16 wheels and tires. Haters will be ignored. 





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Powerflite
Posted 2021-07-13 9:57 AM (#613463 - in reply to #613004)
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Location: So. Cal		I'm not sure what you mean. I am running 235/60/17's on the back of my '56 Savoy without any issues. The only thing I had to do was to trim the inner lip a little bit to keep them from rubbing on it. I'm using a B-body 8 3/4 though.
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Old Ray
Posted 2021-07-13 10:34 AM (#613464 - in reply to #613463)
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Powerflite - 2021-07-13 7:57  I'm using a B-body 8 3/4 though.

Thanks. Yes, i think you are right, it was my stubborn ignorance insistence (read cheapness) on using the Dakota diff. 

Even with the shocks off and the axle jacked down I could not get the tire tipped between the lip. Not good on the side of the road in the middle of the night in a rain storm ! 

 

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Posted 2021-07-13 11:08 AM (#613467 - in reply to #613004)
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56D500boy
Posted 2021-07-13 12:17 PM (#613468 - in reply to #613467)
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Powerflite - 2021-07-13 8:08 AM
One caveat is that in order to get the wheels on or off, you have to jack up the frame, not the axle.


Exactly. Here is my car while I test two different floor jacks on the frame to see if I can use them to get my 235/75/15 tires off my 56 Dodge. Yup. With the aid of a piece of 2 x 4 that is.





REFERENCE THREAD: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=72117&...



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Old Ray
Posted 2021-07-13 3:29 PM (#613473 - in reply to #613467)
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Powerflite - 2021-07-13 9:08 AM One caveat is that in order to get the wheels on or off, you have to jack up the frame, not the axle.

REALLY ! I have removed my first two replies to protect myself but it was something about you both must work with some really stupid people.

If you had been paying attention it said jack the axle DOWN. 

The extreme lowness of the car has exasperated the situation.  The car was on jack sands with the axle hanging above the floor with the shocks removed and a bottle jack between the the top of the axle and the bottom of the frame. 

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N.Fury
Posted 2021-07-13 5:10 PM (#613477 - in reply to #613451)
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56D500boy - 2021-07-12 7:41 PM

N.Fury - 2021-07-12 3:19 PM
I think the PO cut out the fender well so he could fit larger rear tires on her. These 205’s seem to fit just fine in the space.


56 Furys used the same 5.5" x 15" on a 5 by 4.5" bolt circle as my 56 Dodge D500 did when it left the factory.

In theory, the tire sizes for the 5.5" x 15" wheels were either 7.60 x 15 or 8.00 x 15. Both translate to P225/75/15s.






Whoa, very cool info- thank you! 205’s seem pretty small (IMHO), so a 225 makes more sense. I wonder if the PO put the 205’s on to change the gear ratio for a faster spool up?! Hummmm. She’ll eventually get 225’s, though.

I pulled the wheel off to gain better access to the wheel well and “69 Dodge” is written on the brake drum along with some other words I can’t decode. Maybe someone else can?



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N.Fury
Posted 2021-07-13 5:13 PM (#613478 - in reply to #613462)
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Old Ray - 2021-07-13 9:41 AM

Warning: contains graphic images that might be repulsive to some. 

This what happens so that the wheels will come off when using a Dakota rear axle and 225/60R/16 wheels and tires. Haters will be ignored. 



Whoa! My rims are off a mid to late 70’s Lincoln. Are you fabricating the whole area with new metal, or using a tin from a parts car?!
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Old Ray
Posted 2021-07-13 7:35 PM (#613482 - in reply to #613478)
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N.Fury - 2021-07-13 3:13 PM Whoa! My rims are off a mid to late 70’s Lincoln. Are you fabricating the whole area with new metal, or using a tin from a parts car?!

Yes, my rims are from a 1970 Mark vii LSC, if you haven't done this yet, I had to bore out the center hole to fit the Dakota axles/hubs. The wheel well quarter panels are repo other make ones, cheap and I'm not sure if Mopar ones are available.  

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N.Fury
Posted 2021-07-14 10:47 AM (#613499 - in reply to #613482)
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Old Ray - 2021-07-13 7:35 PM

N.Fury - 2021-07-13 3:13 PM Whoa! My rims are off a mid to late 70’s Lincoln. Are you fabricating the whole area with new metal, or using a tin from a parts car?!

Yes, my rims are from a 1970 Mark vii LSC, if you haven't done this yet, I had to bore out the center hole to fit the Dakota axles/hubs. The wheel well quarter panels are repo other make ones, cheap and I'm not sure if Mopar ones are available.  




I haven’t seen any reproduction panels for the 55/56 Plymouths. If my panels were more hacked up, I’d rather use reproduced panels- especially on the area where the taillight curve flows toward the rear wheel wheel.
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Posted 2021-07-14 12:12 PM (#613502 - in reply to #613004)
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Other repair panels like floors and structural parts were a different story. The ones offered by C to C and a couple of others I tried were expensive junk that could only be used with major alterations.

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N.Fury
Posted 2021-07-14 5:06 PM (#613512 - in reply to #613502)
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GaryS - 2021-07-14 12:12 PM

There are several '56 fender, door and quarter-panel patch panels listed on e-bay. I bought some when I was doing my body work and was able to get original replacement parts for what I needed. A couple had surface rust and some handling dings, but all were good metal and fit properly.

Other repair panels like floors and structural parts were a different story. The ones offered by C to C and a couple of others I tried were expensive junk that could only be used with major alterations.



Good to know- thank you! Ohhhh, and a much bigger THANK YOU is in order for the trim and radio!! They came in today!

I am grateful for the parts- truly.




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Posted 2021-07-14 5:26 PM (#613514 - in reply to #613004)
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Posted 2021-07-14 10:04 PM (#613520 - in reply to #613514)
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GaryS - 2021-07-14 5:26 PM

You are welcome and I hope they work out for you!


I couldn’t resist. I put on the trim:



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Posted 2021-08-26 5:48 PM (#614516 - in reply to #613004)
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I suppose it is time for an update!

I pieced together the disc brake conversion that came with the car- Dodge B|E body pads were used, so that was a relief.

The heater-delete worked out, but the trick was trying to cover the fresh air vent set up in a way that allowed the cover to be removed as/if needed, and, of course a drain of sorts.

The firewall is done and all unneeded holes were filled. A satin black enamel was applied to the upper portion, a stout bed liner was sprayed to the lower part.

The 727 that came with the car is out- a 440/727 has been sourced, and I’m stacking up the parts to put in a mild cam (and all the goodies that go along with it), I sourced a complete 68 Charger factory six pack set up, 2400 stall converter, deep tranny pan, reusable gasket, and the heads will go out to get tested, reworked, ported and polished. Mock up of the 440 to weld in the engine brackets.

The tranny crossmember was modified by the PO, so I’ll try to use that same set up for this install, BUT, I’ll be definitely reinforcing the brackets that attach to the frame and the crossmember, too.

Oh, I’m using the corvette shocks on the front, and have a “bolt on” master cylinder upgrade for the brakes.



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N.Fury
Posted 2021-08-27 2:43 PM (#614546 - in reply to #613004)
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Unbolting/cutting out the hacked, booger welded radiator support (and maybe mocking up the 440).



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