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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Sorry, Phil I want to reply to your newly posted info but I thought that it would be best in a separate Member's Rides thread. You should post any new info (and photos) here. Previously you (Phil) said: Arocket111 - 2021-10-28 12:50 AM Hi The actual vin tag off-the drivers door post is number 34970634 I don’t know if that info means anything much thanks Phil and today Arocket111 - 2021-11-02 8:41 AM Hi cowl tag pretty rusted out but managed to get info off it I will see if I can add a photo of it after text info as follows best Ivcan see wL AC A SC BS 1. 1 Schedule body paint trim SP 08. 09. 23. 004. 218. 70 or 7Q. 7268 Dodge Division Chrysler Corp (I think) Any help greatly appreciated Phil PS the number ones keep moving so one is under A and one is under SC Thanks Regarding the VIN, I posted this: 56D500boy - 2021-10-28 9:05 AM That VIN indicates that your car is a *very* late build 1955 Dodge from the Detroit factory (see below). If you can post a photo of your car's cowl data tag (like the example below), we can probably tell you more about the car as it left the factory. In 1955, all the Dodge V8s were 270s, either the Super Red Ram "hemi" (very wide rectangular valve covers with spark plug wire covers) or the scallop-edged valve cover poly. NOW...back to business: Interpreting your Cowl Data Tag (slightly enhanced version of the image you tried to post below): Schedule 08 09 = Scheduled build date was August 9th, 1955, pretty late in the model year. The first 1956s were probably built in September 1955. 23 004 is a build sequence number, no real info available to us. Body 218 = 1955 Dodge Coronet Sierra V8 wagon, 4 door, 6 passenger (228 was the Royal V8 4dr wagon and 217 was the Coronet 2 dr V8 wagon) REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=74414&... Paint 70 = two tone, Cameo Red Upper and Sapphire white lower, like this 1955 Dodge Custom Royal Sedan: REFERENCES: 1. http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=42113&... 2. http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=76595 Trim = 726 = a Red and White vinyl ("Cordagrain") for Coronet Wagons: REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=70980&... Check your engine Number (on the block, near the oil filler tube). Should be D551-nnnnn (PhilLs55DodgeSierraWagon_CowlDataTag_SmallAndImprovedaBit.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PhilLs55DodgeSierraWagon_CowlDataTag_SmallAndImprovedaBit.jpg (81KB - 138 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 64 | Hi thanks for the info and putting it in the right place. I will post photos on this thread soon Just a bit of info on me getting the Dodge coronet Sierra station wagon and its condition The car was advertised on uk eBay for £6000 and had just been posted so a friend of mine and myself bought the Dodge to sell on we paid £5000 pounds it seemed a solid vehicle but on getting it home we realised it had had over £10,000 pounds spent on it ,full engine rebuild ,gearbox overhaul,new clutch ,complete rewire,body off for chassis work , new floors tig welded in ,inner and outer sills ,new carb,disc brakes all round new purpose made alloy fuel tank ,and more. After looking at the dodge and walking past it numerous times I realised I was becoming attached to it and loved it’s stance and look ,so I said to my friend I would like to keep the Dodge for myself my friend agreed,at this time the car was driving terribly virtually undrivable so we fitted four new shock absorbers better but not driving ,got the tracking realigned which was a mile out front passenger side was towed in a mile ,the Dodge now drives well The forward plan up to now is Electronic ignition to fit Install rear airbags and new front springs, complete new interior inc headliner and door cards which are all missing thankfully the bows are there for the headliner.,the dash is complete and unmolested thankfully with radio Externally I have not decided what to do the paint is a poor colour and in poor condition ,I need a windshield at some point current one bad crack in it (any help sourcing one appreciated not forgetting I’m in the uk thanks) the wheels will also be changed ,the body is in great condition other than a little bit on the doors about 6 inches from the bottom so cut out and reweld new plate in and that’s as far as I’ve got with work and thoughts so far can I just say thank you very much for all the help I have received so far from this forum Thanks Phil | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . In addition to the paint code 70 on the cowl tag, I see «1» below «SP» i. e. paint 570-1 means two tone combination; For example «IF»: PAINT 70 and «3» below «SP» i. e. paint 570-3 means three tone combination – Jewell Black Upper – Sapphire White Saddle – Cameo Red Lower SP1 = Two Tone Combo; SP2 = Tri Tone Combo with White Roof; SP3 = Tri Tone Combo with Black Roof; SP4 = Tri Tone Combo with Red (or Rose) Roof; And finally: A1 = Coronet Accessory Group: Air Foam Rear Seat Cushion, Wheel Covers, Rear Quarter Stone Shields and Cigar Lighter SC1 = Windshield Upper Molding (SC = Sun Cap Visor abbreviation) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Thanks for posting the background story on your 55 Wagon Phil. Can't wait to see photos to confirm what we were thinking about paint and trim, etc. In the meantime, you sent me this message and a new version of your wagon's cowl data tag (see below). Igor, check this new image to see if your interpretation of the previous version of the tag changes. I see SP 6 and maybe SP 61 (??) "Hi thanks Dave for opening my ride. That's great. I will post more photos when I can get resized. I have done the best i can with cowl tag. It's very thin in places. The last number on the right is a 6 not an 8. Thanks, Phil" I've suggested to Phil that he try the UK equivalent of Evapo-Rust or Rust Check brand "Rust Wash" to eat away the rust on his cowl data tag and further reveal the numbers on it. (I also said that 55 Dodges never got cowl data tags until about mid-May 1955 so his Aug 9th, 1955 car definitely qualified.) Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-03 3:33 PM (PhilLs55DodgeSierraWagon_CowlDataTag_Improved.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PhilLs55DodgeSierraWagon_CowlDataTag_Improved.jpg (58KB - 132 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . SP two- and three- tone color designations actual for 1955 Dodges only, not for 1956... | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . Maybe 6 is a last digit of trim code 726? | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . Oh, suddenly there was another picture of the cowl tag... | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | frwl - 2021-11-03 12:31 PM . Oh, suddenly there was another picture of the cowl tag... Igor. Yes. I just got this new image from Phil this AM. What do you see under "SP" now? 6 or 61? And yes, the trim code is 726, the two-tone Red/White Cordagrain vinyl for the wagons. Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-03 3:36 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . SP 61… this is impossible! Dave, maybe is it code SP6 = 296? The optional paint for sedans and wagons? Like in the Mike Petersen’s book… | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . The upper portion of «1» in the «61» is not the similar like «1» below «A» or «AC»… | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . And «1» in the «61» does not have lower «cross member» or «foot» like «1» below «A» or «AC» as well… | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . Dave, some corrections to your body code interpretation on the picture you posted above: D56-1 – L6 Engine 117 = Suburban 2door Station Wagon, 6P 118 = Sierra 4door Station Wagon, 6P 119 = Sierra 4door Station Wagon, 9P D55-1 – V8 Engine 217 = Suburban 2door Station Wagon, 6P 218 = Sierra 4door Station Wagon, 6P 219 = Sierra 4door Station Wagon, 9P | ||
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Regular Posts: 64 | Re - paint unfortunately the car has been painted a sort of battleship grey but someone has tried to give it that patina look rather unsuccessfully so it is possible to see the original red and cream / off white colours so you are dead right with your paint interpretation ,re - interior not in a good state but may be something original left for me to identify ,the dashboard is black and cream all looks to be original I will post a some photos Thanks Phil | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Found an article about the 1955 Wagons that featured on with what I think is the same "70" paint code. Not sure whether the interior is correct or not. The photo of the dash is from a similar Royal Sierra wagon so it might be different than Phils. The engine bay photo is from yet another car but it is a 270 poly and should be similar to Phil's: (Reference: https://auto.howstuffworks.com/1955-dodge-royal-sierra-station-wagon... ) Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-06 1:31 PM (55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_1.jpg) (55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_2.jpg) (55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_3.jpg) (55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_4.jpg) (55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_5_Potential726InteriorTrim.jpg) (1955DodgeRoyalSierraWagonPaintCode70_Interior.jpg) (55Dodge270PolyEngineBay_Barnfind_NOTPhils.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_1.jpg (29KB - 139 downloads) 55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_2.jpg (25KB - 137 downloads) 55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_3.jpg (24KB - 136 downloads) 55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_4.jpg (40KB - 136 downloads) 55DodgeRoyalSierraWagon_in70Paint_5_Potential726InteriorTrim.jpg (27KB - 141 downloads) 1955DodgeRoyalSierraWagonPaintCode70_Interior.jpg (73KB - 137 downloads) 55Dodge270PolyEngineBay_Barnfind_NOTPhils.jpg (92KB - 135 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | frwl - 2021-11-03 12:39 PM . SP 61… this is impossible! Dave, maybe is it code SP6 = 296? The optional paint for sedans and wagons? Like in the Mike Petersen’s book… I am thinking that SP 6 = one of the special paint codes that takes a two tone 1955 paint scheme into a three tone. From pg. 23 of Mike Petersen's 1955 Dodge by the numbers book: "295 = Lancer-type moulding with two-tone paint...Wagon 34946869 has "SP5" on the trim plate. 296= Lancer-type moulding with three-tone (2 and 4 door sedans and wagons) Sapphire white (roof) as the third color". So on that basis, I think SP 6 is justified if Phil's wagon to has the Lancer-type mouldings and maybe a white roof ??? Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-06 6:46 PM (LancerTypeMouldingsFor1955Dodge_PartNumbers.jpg) Attachments ---------------- LancerTypeMouldingsFor1955Dodge_PartNumbers.jpg (152KB - 134 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . 56D500boy - 2021-11-06 3:44 PM I am thinking that SP 6 = one of the special paint codes that takes a two tone 1955 paint scheme into a three tone. From pg. 23 of Mike Petersen's 1955 Dodge by the numbers book: "295 = Lancer-type moulding with two-tone paint...Wagon 34946869 has "SP5" on the trim plate. 296= Lancer-type moulding with three-tone (2 and 4 door sedans and wagons) Sapphire white (roof) as the third color". So on that basis, I think SP 6 is justified if Phil's wagon has the Lancer-type mouldings and maybe a white roof ??? Earlier today, Phil sent me some photos of this 55 Dodge Coronet Sierra (4 dr) V8 wagon. He asked me if I could resize and post some of the photos. I asked him for an engine bay photo. Theses are some that he sent (note that his car has the accessory front bumper wings and the front bumper over-rider bar. Pretty deluxe for a Coronet, but then again, it has the Lancer side trim as shown below. I don't know if I see any signs of a white roof. (??) Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-06 7:12 PM (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_1.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_2.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_3_Annotated.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_4_Annotated.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_1.jpg (196KB - 134 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_2.jpg (354KB - 134 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_3_Annotated.jpg (157KB - 137 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_4_Annotated.jpg (244KB - 145 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . The signs of a red upper / saddle color are invisible too… So, what this color should be? White roof – it is clear; Red area between all windows and the saddle above Lancer molding and upper portion of the hood; and finally white lower part of the body again… Just a moment, I need to revise my notes... | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . 1955 DODGE PAINT CODES – REVISED NOVEMBER 07, 2021 SINGLE TONE – ALL BODY TYPES PAINT 01 = Jewell Black PAINT 05 = Halo Blue PAINT 06 = Parisian Blue PAINT 07 = Admiral Blue PAINT 15 = Chiffon Green PAINT 16 = Emerald Green PAINT 17 = Satin Green PAINT 30 = Cashmere Gray PAINT 50 = Heather Rose PAINT 51 = Cameo Red PAINT 52 = Regal Burgundy PAINT 55 = Sapphire White PAINT 58 = Fantasy Yellow TWO TONE COMBINATIONS – LANCER HARDTOP AND LANCER CONVERTIBLE PAINT 60 – SP 1 = Halo Blue over Admiral Blue PAINT 61 – SP 1 = Admiral Blue over Halo Blue PAINT 62 – SP 1 = Sapphire White over Parisian Blue PAINT 63 – SP 1 = Emerald Green over Satin Green PAINT 64 – SP 1 = Satin Green over Emerald Green PAINT 65 – SP 1 = Satin Green over Chiffon Green PAINT 66 – SP 1 = Emerald Green over Chiffon Green PAINT 67 – SP 1 = Cameo Red over Cashmere Gray PAINT 68 – SP 1 = Jewell Black over Cameo Red PAINT 69 – SP 1 = Jewell Black over Heather Rose PAINT 70 – SP 1 = Cameo Red over Sapphire White PAINT 71 – SP 1 = Heather Rose over Sapphire White – LA FEMME PAINT 72 – SP 1 = Sapphire White over Jewell Black PAINT 73 – SP 1 = Sapphire White over Fantasy Yellow PAINT 74 – SP 1 = Jewell Black over Fantasy Yellow PAINT 75 – SP 1 = Sapphire White over Regal Burgundy THREE TONE COMBINATIONS – LANCER HARDTOP AND LANCER CONVERTIBLE: UPPER – SADDLE – LOWER PAINT 60 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Halo Blue – Admiral Blue PAINT 61 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Admiral Blue – Halo Blue PAINT 63 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Emerald Green – Satin Green PAINT 64 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Satin Green – Emerald Green PAINT 65 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Satin Green – Chiffon Green PAINT 66 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Emerald Green – Chiffon Green PAINT 68 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Jewell Black – Cameo Red PAINT 69 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Jewell Black – Heather Rose PAINT 74 – SP 2 = Sapphire White – Jewell Black – Fantasy Yellow PAINT 60 – SP 3 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Parisian Blue PAINT 67 – SP 3 = Jewell Black – Cameo Red – Cashmere Gray PAINT 70 – SP 3 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Cameo Red PAINT 71 – SP 3 = Jewell Black – Heather Rose – Sapphire White PAINT 73 – SP 3 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Fantasy Yellow PAINT 75 – SP 3 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Regal Burgundy PAINT 71 – SP 4 = Heather Rose – Heather Rose – Sapphire White PAINT 72 – SP 4 = Cameo Red – Sapphire White – Jewell Black TWO TONE COMBINATIONS – SEDANS AND STATION WAGONS WITH LANCER SIDE TRIM PAINT 60 – SP 5 = Halo Blue over Admiral Blue PAINT 61 – SP 5 = Admiral Blue over Halo Blue PAINT 62 – SP 5 = Sapphire White over Parisian Blue PAINT 63 – SP 5 = Emerald Green over Satin Green PAINT 64 – SP 5 = Satin Green over Emerald Green PAINT 65 – SP 5 = Satin Green over Chiffon Green PAINT 66 – SP 5 = Emerald Green over Chiffon Green PAINT 67 – SP 5 = Cameo Red over Cashmere Gray PAINT 68 – SP 5 = Jewell Black over Cameo Red PAINT 69 – SP 5 = Jewell Black over Heather Rose PAINT 70 – SP 5 = Cameo Red over Sapphire White PAINT 71 – SP 5 = Heather Rose over Sapphire White – LA FEMME PAINT 72 – SP 5 = Sapphire White over Jewell Black PAINT 73 – SP 5 = Sapphire White over Fantasy Yellow PAINT 74 – SP 5 = Jewell Black over Fantasy Yellow PAINT 75 – SP 5 = Sapphire White over Regal Burgundy THREE TONE COMBINATIONS – SEDANS AND STATION WAGONS WITH LANCER SIDE TRIM: UPPER – SADDLE – LOWER PAINT 60 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Halo Blue – Admiral Blue PAINT 61 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Admiral Blue – Halo Blue PAINT 63 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Emerald Green – Satin Green PAINT 64 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Satin Green – Emerald Green PAINT 65 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Satin Green – Chiffon Green PAINT 66 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Emerald Green – Chiffon Green PAINT 68 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Jewell Black – Cameo Red PAINT 69 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Jewell Black – Heather Rose PAINT 74 – SP 6 = Sapphire White – Jewell Black – Fantasy Yellow PAINT 60 – SP 7 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Parisian Blue PAINT 67 – SP 7 = Jewell Black – Cameo Red – Cashmere Gray PAINT 70 – SP 7 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Cameo Red PAINT 71 – SP 7 = Jewell Black – Heather Rose – Sapphire White PAINT 73 – SP 7 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Fantasy Yellow PAINT 75 – SP 7 = Jewell Black – Sapphire White – Regal Burgundy PAINT 71 – SP 8 = Heather Rose – Heather Rose – Sapphire White PAINT 72 – SP 8 = Cameo Red – Sapphire White – Jewell Black SP1, SP2, SP3, and SP4 combos are used for Lancer Hardtop and Convertible; SP5, SP6, SP7, and SP8 combos (with same paint scheme) are used for Sedans and Wagons but with Lancer trim P.S. PAINT 70 and SP 5 - are available, PAINT 70 and SP 7 - are available too; *BUT* There is no PAINT 70 and SP 6 combinations | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | frwl - 2021-11-07 9:47 AM . The signs of a red upper / saddle color are invisible too… So, what this color should be? White roof – it is clear; Red area between all windows and the saddle above Lancer molding and upper portion of the hood; and finally white lower part of the body again… At this point I don't see any white on the roof. As for the cameo red and white bits there is this previously posted (above) example: And these new photos (which clearly shows the lower part was originally Sapphire white and the door post was Cameo Red): Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-07 1:16 PM (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_5.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_6_LeftEndOfDashShowingCameoRedDoorPost.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_5.jpg (182KB - 138 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetSierraWagon_6_LeftEndOfDashShowingCameoRedDoorPost.jpg (71KB - 133 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Phil sent me some photos of his interior (the back of the front seat) and the engine bay. The interior seems to fit with what I was expecting for a "726" interior: White and red vinyl ("Cordagrain") some of which was embossed. The engine bay shows the 270 poly 2 bbl base Coronet V8. Looks like a previous owner did some rewiring, perhaps at the same time there was a conversion to 12V and alternator. I also see a dual drum/drum master. Phils is having issues with his fuel gauge (probably still the 6V gauge, now receiving 12V - wagon gauges use a different measuring system than the non-wagons so I don't know what to tell him). Must be an electric fuel pump down there somewhere too because the fuel line comes from the firewall, not the front of the engine. Some of Phil's (resized) photos (note the Cameo Red firewall peeking out): Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-08 2:20 PM (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetWagonInterior_1.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetWagonInterior_2.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetEngineBay_1.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetEngineBay_2.jpg) (PhilLs55DodgeCoronetEngineBay_3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PhilLs55DodgeCoronetWagonInterior_1.jpg (81KB - 136 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetWagonInterior_2.jpg (144KB - 140 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetEngineBay_1.jpg (162KB - 127 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetEngineBay_2.jpg (147KB - 134 downloads) PhilLs55DodgeCoronetEngineBay_3.jpg (127KB - 135 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1740 Location: Alaska | That is a strange looking alternator, wonder what brand it is? | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . What if this is a Tri-Tone color combination? Jewell Black Roof, Sapphire White Upper and Cameo Red Lower? PAINT 70 and SP6 While a similar combo on the Lancer bodies should be PAINT 70 and SP3? | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | frwl - 2021-11-12 11:52 PM . What if this is a Tri-Tone color combination? Jewell Black Roof, Sapphire White Upper and Cameo Red Lower? PAINT 70 and SP6 Igor: I only see the photos that Phil sent me and I posted above. I can't tell what the original colour of the roof was. But in your paint code list above, Jewell Black Roof, Sapphire White Upper and Cameo Red Lower would be PAINT 70 and SP7 (not SP6). I am holding out that there was a Paint Code 70 SP 6 with Sapphire White roof, Cameo Red saddle and Sapphire white lower. We'll see. I am going to call in the "Big Guns", Mike Petersen, to give his opinion. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 56D500boy - 2021-11-13 9:02 AM Igor: I only see the photos that Phil sent me and I posted above. I can't tell what the original colour of the roof was. But in your paint code list above, Jewell Black Roof, Sapphire White Upper and Cameo Red Lower would be PAINT 70 and SP7 (not SP6). I am holding out that there was a Paint Code 70 SP 6 with Sapphire White roof, Cameo Red saddle and Sapphire white lower. We'll see. I am going to call in the "Big Guns", Mike Petersen, to give his opinion. I emailed Mike P. regarding SP5, SP6 and SP7 for the 1955 Dodge's and the main part of his reply today was: "Option 296 should have SP6 on the trim plate. 296 (Sapphire White insert color), 297 (Jewell Black insert color), and 298 (Cameo Red insert color) are codes for Lancer trim with three tone paint on Coronet and Royal sedans and wagons." I have asked Phil L. to investigate the colour of the roof under that dark grey primer that the previous owner sprayed on the roof. Maybe eventually he will be able to confirm that the next layer down was Sapphire White (??) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1890 | . Dave thanks for your asking in the “Big Guns”; Just a minute for clear: Is option 296 decoded Sapphire White INSERT color, or Sapphire White ROOF color? I think ROOF is a roof color before the drip rail and the INSERT is an upper color before Lancer molding (upper portion of the doors and saddle, including hood); And further below is a LOWER color… | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . It's the third colour and it was applied to the roof and maybe around the taillights. | ||
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Regular Posts: 64 | Just a few photos to show where we are with the Station wagon a lot of pant now off and not to many bad bits in fact better than I had hoped for door bottoms to cut out and repair and a couple of other small areas Sorry I can’t get photos to be open on thread so they are resized and below Cheers Phil Edited by Arocket111 2021-11-21 8:11 AM Attachments ---------------- F8D6A13F-45F2-4C85-AE38-5EE7742A96F6.jpeg (206KB - 139 downloads) E6FB6AE8-5C33-472E-A2B0-4B92F7249B5B.jpeg (224KB - 139 downloads) 13BA66EC-7845-4C96-9F22-3CC541568C34.jpeg (222KB - 133 downloads) F8207DC4-FF20-4C5B-903B-9D97DD967099.jpeg (201KB - 140 downloads) BF0A2D18-A8E2-4B39-937C-E9913F212D1C.jpeg (222KB - 128 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Arocket111 - 2021-11-21 4:58 AM Sorry I can’t get photos to be open on thread so they are resized and below Phil: Great photos. Still hoping for one of the roof showing the next layer down from that dark grey paint/primer. It will solve the SP6 issue on your cowl data tag. As to why your photos won't open, the answer is Apple .jpegs do NOT work here, i.e. no iPhone or iPad .jpeg photos work. Does any one know of a utility, maybe Irfanview (??), that will take a .jpeg and convert it to .jpg? Answered my own question: Opened one of your .jpegs (that won't open here) with Irfanview, resized it to 1024 x 768 and saved it as a .jpg. Bob's yer Uncle. Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-21 12:34 PM (PhilLs55DodgeWagonPhotoConvertedfromJpegToJpgUsingIrfanview.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PhilLs55DodgeWagonPhotoConvertedfromJpegToJpgUsingIrfanview.jpg (166KB - 126 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Phil sent me a photo of his 55 Dodge wagon's roof he begins the paint removal. He says "RE: the roof, I have rubbed a bit down (see below photo) And possibly none of the roof paint is original." I see bare metal, red oxide primer, Cameo Red paint, some grey paint (primer?) and then some black. Black would make the most sense to me as the factory top coat as it fits with the SP6 designation. But that might just be wishful thinking. Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-24 9:10 PM (PhilLs55DodgeWagon_RoofPaintExplorations_Small.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PhilLs55DodgeWagon_RoofPaintExplorations_Small.jpg (97KB - 126 downloads) | ||
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Regular Posts: 64 | Hi all fitted the Mopar electronic distributor to the 270 poly engine today bolted straight in and fired up straight away with no issues very happy the engine is running very sweetly now Thanks to the 2 members who pointed me in this direction Edited by Arocket111 2021-12-21 5:01 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Arocket111 - 2021-12-21 1:42 PM Hi all fitted the Mopar electronic distributor to the 270 poly engine today bolted straight in and fired up straight away with no issues very happy the engine is running very sweetly now Thanks to the 2 members who pointed me in this direction That is great news Phil. That worked because your 270 is a low deck engine, not like the raised deck 315 poly and hemi also used in 1956. This was my suggestion (which luckily worked ): 56D500boy - 2021-10-27 7:23 AM As for the distributor, I recently enquired about using an LA Block 273-318-340-360 electronic distributor on my 56 315 hemi and I was told that NO that will not work because the 315 block is a raised block and the LA blocks are shorter. So unless I got and longer distributor shaft, they would not work on *MY* engine. HOWEVER, the 270 in 1956 is very likely a carry over from the 1953-1955 241-270 blocks which were NOT raised. Therefore, you will probably be able to use a LA Block 273-318-340-360 electronic distributor like these kits: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/234243343074 https://www.ebay.ca/itm/233098658395 Edited by 56D500boy 2021-12-21 9:48 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9904 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Phil: Based on your photos that were posted in the 56 Desoto Wagon Seat Removal thread, your car's original paint was definitely based on Heather Rose (probably with the Sapphire White bottom). What the original roof paint colour was, we might never know. One of your rear seat removal photos showing the Heather Rose: | ||
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Regular Posts: 64 | The Dodge is coming on a bit now the body has been stripped back to bare metal the door bottoms have been repaired and the body has been lacquered with satin clear coat not everyone’s taste I know ,the roof has been painted satin black ,17 inch Mustang wheels are now fitted and clearance made as required.,air bags fitted to rear for handling improvements , and a brake booster now enables modern car braking on discs all round. | ||
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Regular Posts: 64 | The Dodge is coming on a bit now the body has been stripped back to bare metal the door bottoms have been repaired and the body has been lacquered with satin clear coat not everyone’s taste I know ,the roof has been painted satin black ,17 inch Mustang wheels are now fitted and clearance made as required.,air bags fitted to rear for handling improvements , and a brake booster now enables modern car braking on discs all round. Photos below sized correctly but wrong format so until I resolve format issue they are at the bottom cheers. Phil The rusting on the side of the car has somehow occurred resizing the photo it is not rusty as the photo shows it is the same as the rest of the car Edited by Arocket111 2022-02-05 2:31 PM Attachments ---------------- 58023BEB-5918-4E46-98A5-65FFE5FB78B0.jpeg (218KB - 123 downloads) 0CFB63A3-9E46-42AC-B14D-87E7BDC13888.jpeg (218KB - 118 downloads) 05849BA5-A24D-41B2-99A7-180FBCAECCBC.jpeg (219KB - 109 downloads) 89CBCDE5-D238-48BE-8DF0-2863DA3687C7.jpeg (230KB - 117 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3577 Location: Blythewood, SC | Looks good! | ||
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