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63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift
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1960-FURY
Posted 2023-02-24 10:15 AM (#627801)
Subject: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift


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Looking for some expert knowledge on converting a dash cable shift transmission to floor shift automatic on a 727 heard there was difference with the park cable mechanism in the transmission. I have switched both cables and have a 64 Plymouth floor shifter set up. Seems like when shifting into park cable is just 1/4 TO 1/2 in. off from locking in position? Have not tried to redo shifter park end yet .Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you Tim

Edited by 1960-FURY 2023-02-24 10:35 AM
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57chizler
Posted 2023-02-24 12:40 PM (#627804 - in reply to #627801)
Subject: RE: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift



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The Park mechanism in the transmission tail is the same from '62-'65, the push button and console shift and Park cables are different as is the "roostercomb" in the valve body. Since the console shifter travels one more position than the push button does, the roostercomb has an extra detent and the valve body casting is modified to allow for the extra travel of the manual valve.

In short, to make a console shifter work with a '62-'64 push button trans you need a '64-'65 console/column valve body...it's a simple drop-in and the console/column shaft cable adjustment procedure needs to be adhered to.

Edited by 57chizler 2023-02-24 1:01 PM




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1960-FURY
Posted 2023-02-24 10:17 PM (#627820 - in reply to #627804)
Subject: RE: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift


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Awesome , Could you give me a supplier for 64-'65 console/column valve body. roostercomb PART # ??

Thank you!

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57chizler
Posted 2023-02-25 12:58 PM (#627842 - in reply to #627820)
Subject: RE: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift



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You can't just replace the roostercomb, as I stated, the valve body casting was also modified...so you need to replace the entire VB.

Performance transmission builders offer complete VB's but they shift harsher than stock.
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1960-FURY
Posted 2023-02-25 1:32 PM (#627843 - in reply to #627842)
Subject: RE: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift


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Ok Thank you
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1960-FURY
Posted 2023-02-27 11:21 AM (#627896 - in reply to #627801)
Subject: RE: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift


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Can I get pointed in a direction,, I need to decode my transmission E2464423 1347832

Also number on passenger side 2400065

Thanks Tim

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wizard
Posted 2023-02-27 11:43 AM (#627898 - in reply to #627801)
Subject: Re: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift



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I'm curious to know the "why" behind this modification??

The car had the coolest pushbutton shift and the owner wants to degrade it.

Don't get me wrong, just curious.....
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57chizler
Posted 2023-02-27 12:36 PM (#627901 - in reply to #627896)
Subject: RE: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift



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1960-FURY - 2023-02-27 8:21 AM

Can I get pointed in a direction,, I need to decode my transmission E2464423 1347832

Also number on passenger side 2400065

Thanks Tim


2464423 is from a '64 full-sized car with a 318.
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57chizler
Posted 2023-02-27 12:41 PM (#627902 - in reply to #627898)
Subject: Re: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift



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wizard - 2023-02-27 8:43 AM

I'm curious to know the "why" behind this modification??

The car had the coolest pushbutton shift and the owner wants to degrade it.

Don't get me wrong, just curious.....


It may be considered sacrilege for a Mopar fan, but I have never been a big fan of the pushbutton shifter. More "unique" than "cool" IMO.
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1960-FURY
Posted 2023-02-27 3:00 PM (#627906 - in reply to #627902)
Subject: Re: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift


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Thank you John!

I have a couple of other mopers with push buttons. I like both setups.

my wife and thought it would be a cool diffident build and like the floor setup behind my old 392 Hemi in my 57 Plymouth Wagon.

Its been a challenge but will get it right.

Thanks for all the help!
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1960-FURY
Posted 2023-03-09 4:00 PM (#628176 - in reply to #627801)
Subject: RE: 63/64 Transmission differences between cable shift on the dash, floor shift


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Conversion parts installed, Have to make sure valve body has open hole for longer rod to be installed though, MY 64 valve body did have the hole so I was good to go with changing out the kit parts.

Pat has kits that do this conversion too,,

Great to work with too! What a asset for these transmissions!

Hope this helps others too, others have help me out,, THANK YOU ALL!

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