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Member Posts: 48 ![]() Location: Gooding, ID | So I have this 413 engine block that I'm contemplating using for a future project. I also have a 383 LB from a '59 DeSoto, so I'm wondering if the heads will interchange? Acquired a 4bbl manifold intake from a '70 Roadrunner as well (383 engine) as well, and trying to find out if all this will fit together. I do not have pistons for the 413, so I'm wondering if it's worth while to go through all this trouble or just find a 440 which will be easier to source parts for. I was told this is a truck engine, so I'm not sure this would be better for a boat anchor or would it be worth while to proceed with? Lots of questions, but better now than $$$$ into it. Thanks! Photos are small, so here are the numbers; Block: 1852029-3 RL A2 4R 11 6 S41 Intake: 2806301 Edited by 59Firedome 2023-08-05 11:05 PM (53095595052_283fa0319c_q.jpg) (53096559460_3eef32df98_q.jpg) (53096336789_550fb85a1a_q.jpg) (53095594557_667084cac2_q.jpg) (53096158391_d75ba4abeb_q.jpg) (53096157966_dcdf4a2831_q.jpg) (53096158426_8d3fd1f0a5_q.jpg) (53096335079_5a54356c89_q.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6580 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | Hmmm... 383 is a low deck engine from the RR. 1959 Desoto 383 is a tall deck (RB) I believe. and the 413 is an RB Raised Deck block also. Heads should fit, Your Intake would need spacers to fit a tall deck engine. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7547 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: northern germany | mstrug - 2023-08-06 9:24 AM Hmmm... 383 is a low deck engine from the RR. 1959 Desoto 383 is a tall deck (RB) I believe. and the 413 is an RB Raised Deck block also. Heads should fit, Your Intake would need spacers to fit a tall deck engine. No, the 383 59 Desoto is a Low Deck. The ONLY manufacturer that used the tall deck 383 was Chrysler, 59/60 only. | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10086 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: So. Cal | The difference in piston price 413 vs. 440 is around $150. Is that worth finding a new engine? I don't think so. Also, a 440 will consume a lot more fuel which will hinder you from driving it more. Personally, I would go with the 413 or 383. As Mark stated, your 383 intake won't fit the 413, or a 440 for that matter. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/314331518442 | ||
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59Firedome![]() |
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Member Posts: 48 ![]() Location: Gooding, ID | Good to know, sounds like a spacer for the intake and I'll be good to go. You're right, $150 difference for the pistons I'll go with what I've got and build the 413. What's the difference anyways between a standard block and one built for a truck? I read somewhere this would be the same block used (bored out) for the 426 engines as well, but don't know if this is a fact | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 908 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Peoples Republic of Oregon | 1960fury - 2023-08-06 6:35 AM mstrug - 2023-08-06 9:24 AM Hmmm... 383 is a low deck engine from the RR. 1959 Desoto 383 is a tall deck (RB) I believe. and the 413 is an RB Raised Deck block also. Heads should fit, Your Intake would need spacers to fit a tall deck engine. No, the 383 59 Desoto is a Low Deck. The ONLY manufacturer that used the tall deck 383 was Chrysler, 59/60 only. Agreed, the sales literature indicates the B engine was the only offering, either 361 or 383. | ||
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59Firedome![]() |
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Member Posts: 48 ![]() Location: Gooding, ID | Thanks for the link, so I guess A2 decoded means "A = 0.020-in. oversized cylinder bore" which is what they used for trucks and max performance vehicles then, makes sense it being a little beefier in that case. "1852029… 413… 1959-62… RB Max Perf. & Truck". The 4R I assume means regular gas. | ||
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mstrug![]() |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6580 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | 1960fury - 2023-08-06 8:35 AM mstrug - 2023-08-06 9:24 AM Hmmm... 383 is a low deck engine from the RR. 1959 Desoto 383 is a tall deck (RB) I believe. and the 413 is an RB Raised Deck block also. Heads should fit, Your Intake would need spacers to fit a tall deck engine. No, the 383 59 Desoto is a Low Deck. The ONLY manufacturer that used the tall deck 383 was Chrysler, 59/60 only. O.K. that's right. Chrysler only got the tall block 383, My bad. A new intake might cost the same as spacers. You can sell your 4 bbl intake to fund a proper one. Marc. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3086 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: N.W. Fla. | The "usual" comment about BB truck & motorhome engines is to put car heads on them... | ||
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