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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10400   Location: Lower Mainland BC | . I saw this car listed at the recent (Jan 2024) Mecum auction but the information about the car and the lack of photos of the engine number and the running gear, I wasn't really interested in it. Until Hunter D. (owner of the D500-1003 (probably the earliest D500 sold to the public)) emailed me with this: "Hey Dave! I see this elusive Yellow/White D500 is another candidate for your registry. This car went across the block at the Mecum Auction in Kissimmee, Florida last Wednesday. Bid to and no-sale at $38,000. VIN is 35063236" Hunter also said that he was able to obtain a photo of the engine number not shown in the Mecum documentation. The engine number is D500-1164. So it is a very early build 56 D500. Previously I had D500-1162 in a Detroit-built VIN 35063409 CR Lancer 2dr hardtop built on or around January 06, 1956. This "new" one is VIN 35063236 so slightly earlier than 35063409 even though the engine is two numbers higher. (Probably built on the same line and there was not requirement to have the engine number sequentially match the VINs. (or NOT  ) In any event, there is no image of the cowl data tag so we can not be sure that the paint colours are factory correct. There are also no photos of the rear suspension to confirm the 6 leaves of the early 56 D500s. There is a photo of the valve covers wearing the incorrect "Super Red Ram" decal (which is wrong wrong wrong  ) But here it is, with its place in the unofficial 56 D500 "registry". (56DodgeD500-1164_VIN35063236atMecum2024.jpg) (56DodgeD500-1164_FrontLeft_small.jpg) (56DodgeD500-1164_RearRight_small.jpg) (56DodgeD500-1164_EngineBay1_small.jpg) (56DodgeD500-1164_EngineNumber_Detail.jpg) (DaveFs56DodgeD500EngineNumberDataBase_Jan13_2024.jpg) Attachments ----------------  56DodgeD500-1164_VIN35063236atMecum2024.jpg (140KB - 107 downloads) 56DodgeD500-1164_FrontLeft_small.jpg (146KB - 107 downloads) 56DodgeD500-1164_RearRight_small.jpg (135KB - 109 downloads) 56DodgeD500-1164_EngineBay1_small.jpg (148KB - 105 downloads) 56DodgeD500-1164_EngineNumber_Detail.jpg (146KB - 102 downloads) DaveFs56DodgeD500EngineNumberDataBase_Jan13_2024.jpg (148KB - 101 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10400 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Well, 35063236 with engine D500-1164 is back on the market (maybe it never left). This time in the photo gallery for the sale, the cowl data plate was included. Turns out that it was scheduled to be built on January 5th, 1956, just like the CRL that had D500-1162. So they were probably build on the same day. Also this time out, there are photos of the undercarriage and the rear springs. Being such an early build D500, it should have had the stiffer/lower 6 leaf rear springs. Initially I thought I counted 6 leaves but on closer inspection. I count 5.  That said, in comparison with Hunter's D500 with the factory 6 leaves, this white and yellow car's springs have likely been messed with. The bottom 2 leaves do not have tapered or grooved ends, indicating (to me) that they are not factory. *IF* I had to guess, I would think that some time in the past 68 years or so, the owner at that time decided that the ride was too harsh and had the rear springs re-made to soften the ride. Just a guess. Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/375776895298? Hunter's D500's rear springs showing 6 leaves and nicely tapered ends (note also how 6 leaves are much thicker, leaving no extra threads hanging out of the U-bolt nuts) D500-1164's current rear springs (followed by the VIN plate and the cowl data tag): Edited by 56D500boy 2024-11-10 1:01 AM (56DodgeD500CRL_1164_RearSprings_Left_small.jpg) (56DodgeD500CRL_1164_RearSprings_Left_Detail.jpg) (56DodgeD500CRL_1164_RearSprings_Right_small.jpg) (56DodgeD500CRL_1164_DataPlateJan05-56BuildDate_small.jpg) (56DodgeD500CRL_1164_VINPlate35063236_small.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56DodgeD500CRL_1164_RearSprings_Left_small.jpg (114KB - 64 downloads) 56DodgeD500CRL_1164_RearSprings_Left_Detail.jpg (135KB - 61 downloads) 56DodgeD500CRL_1164_RearSprings_Right_small.jpg (117KB - 68 downloads) 56DodgeD500CRL_1164_DataPlateJan05-56BuildDate_small.jpg (69KB - 70 downloads) 56DodgeD500CRL_1164_VINPlate35063236_small.jpg (63KB - 66 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1062   Location: PL / EU | Another one. I don't see it on your list, but maybe you know it https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1956-dodge-royal-suburban-wagon/ (4040 (1).jpg) (4040 (2).jpg) (4040 (3).jpg) (4040 (4).jpg) (4040 (5).jpg) Attachments ---------------- 4040 (1).jpg (97KB - 29 downloads) 4040 (2).jpg (149KB - 29 downloads) 4040 (3).jpg (141KB - 32 downloads) 4040 (4).jpg (35KB - 27 downloads) 4040 (5).jpg (65KB - 29 downloads) | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10400 Location: Lower Mainland BC | RDP - 2025-01-27 8:01 AM Another one. I don't see it on your list, but maybe you know it Thanks so much Robert. Totally missed that one. Had I seen it, I might own it (D500 wagons are very rare). As it is, the engine D500-4040 is just one above the D500-4039 that I already have on my list right now. (I will add 4040 in a few minutes). The interior is non-Stock but it looks appropriate (I like plaid laddie) I am going to archive most if not all of the available photos for future reference.  | ||
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10400 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Oops.  Turns out that I had seen the D500-4040 wagon on BAT because I included the engine number (D500-4040) in a post that I made on Nov. 9th, 2024 (i.e. about 3 months ago). Next time I revise that table, I should change the designation of that wagon to Suburban (not Sierra). From a previous post I made about the 56 Dodge wagon brochure: 56 Dodge Wagons Basics: Suburban = 2 doors, max of 2 seats/6 passengers, 3 in front, 3 in rear, no third seat Sierra = 4 doors, could be 2 seat/6 passengers or 3 seat /8 passengers (the additional 2 in the rear most area), 270 cu in poly V8, chrome headlight doors (bezels), no chrome on rear fins Custom = body-coloured headlight doors, chrome rear fins added to either the Suburban or Sierra, 315 cu in poly V8 http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=64788&... | ||
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