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Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos
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Baron007
Posted 2025-03-31 4:25 PM (#639482)
Subject: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos



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I recently bought 2 Desotos, a Firedome and Fireflite
Can somebody help me to decode these?




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56D500boy
Posted 2025-03-31 4:28 PM (#639483 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos



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You need to post photos that are less than 250 kB in size. Preferably .jpgs, not .jpegs from an Apple product. But definitely <250 kB.

Then somebody will try.

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Baron007
Posted 2025-03-31 5:02 PM (#639486 - in reply to #639483)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos



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Ok, done!
Here the second one.



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56D500boy
Posted 2025-03-31 5:39 PM (#639487 - in reply to #639486)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos



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Good try but when I suggested <250 kB what I was saying was something like 140 to 249 kB, not 40 kB or 60 kB.

We want to help but those are too small.

Please try again. 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 are good and reasonable sizes to shoot for.



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frwl
Posted 2025-04-01 1:22 PM (#639500 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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VEHICLE NO.: M431101015

M – 1959 Model Year
4 – DeSoto Division
3 – Firedome Series
1 – Jefferson Plant
101015 – Consecutive Unit Number

DATA PLATE:

UPPER ROW:

1001 – Scheduled on October 1, 1958 – very early production carOutside
432 – DeSoto (4) Firedome (3) Sportsman 2-Door Hardtop (2)
101015 – Last Six Digits of Vehicle No.
KXK – Capri Turquoise Roof Color (K), Pearl White Body Color (X), Capri Turquoise Color Sweep Color (K)
364 – Light Gray Vinyl Bolsters and Medium Gray Mayfair Dobby Fabric Inserts

MIDDLE ROW:

J13 – Outside Left Mirror (1 – code 401) and Right Mirror (3 – code 403), Manual Control Both;
M1 – Undercoating and Underhood Pad (code 501);
N2 – Solex Tinted Glass at all Windows and Large Shaded “Vistarama” Rear Window;

LOWER ROW:

E5 – Heater with Defroster (code 345)




(Firedome VIN.jpg)



(Firedome Tag.jpg)



(Firedome Trim 364.JPG)



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frwl
Posted 2025-04-01 1:24 PM (#639501 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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VEHICLE NO.: M41410xxxx (hard to see)

M – 1959 Model Year
4 – DeSoto Division
1 – Firesweep Series
4 – Los Angeles Plant
10xxxx – Consecutive Unit Number

DATA PLATE:

LOWER ROW:

SCHED – Scheduled Date unknown
NO 4004 – 4th car built that day
MODEL MS1L – 1959 Model Year (M) DeSoto (S) Firesweep (1) Lower Price Class (L)
BT 412 – Body Type – DeSoto (4) Firesweep (1) Sportsman 2-Door Hardtop (2)
PT XXX – Paint – Pearl White; Monotone Paint Scheme
TR 314 – Trim – Light Gray Vinyl Bolsters and Medium Gray Sculptured Nylon Cloth; Standard Upholstery

UPPER ROW:

M4 – 1 – Color Sweep Moulding (code 411); it means that the car has twin side moulding, but has painted in single tone paint, without colored sweep insert. The upper portion of twin moulding was standard in 1958, while lower portion was optional…




(Firesweep VIN.jpg)



(Firesweep Tag.jpg)



(Firesweep Trim 314.JPG)



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frwl
Posted 2025-04-01 1:34 PM (#639502 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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Hope this helps and you'll be able to post up the pictures in more resolution...
PM sent...
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frwl
Posted 2025-04-01 1:35 PM (#639503 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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(1959 DeSoto Paint Codes.jpg)



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frwl
Posted 2025-04-01 1:38 PM (#639504 - in reply to #639501)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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frwl - 2025-04-01 1:24 PM

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The upper portion of twin moulding was standard in 1958, while lower portion was optional…


CORRECTION: in 1959, not in 1958
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Baron007
Posted 2025-04-01 3:29 PM (#639505 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos



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Ok thanks for the info!

Green one has rust, more like a parts car, white one is the better one but it is just a basket case, just trying to put this one together to see how complete it really is, but it is hard because it is missing some bits and pieces, and I am more into 62 to 74 A,B and C-bodies.
Bits and bolts of these cars are hard to match with the 59's.
I have parted out about 12 Mopars so I do have a lot of spare hardware....

I'll post some pictures tomorrow.
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frwl
Posted 2025-04-01 3:38 PM (#639506 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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Partingout '62 4-dr Newport data plate (and side view) pictures would be helpful for me too:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=79756&...
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Fireflite56
Posted 2025-04-01 7:35 PM (#639511 - in reply to #639505)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos



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Congrats on your new DeSotos and best of luck with figuring out what you have and getting one put together. I have a '59 Fireflite 2 door hardtop. If you have not already, I highly recommend joining the National DeSoto Club. With your membership, you'll receive six bi-monthly award-winning magazines per year, including a car and member roster to help locate parts cars and nearby DeSoto owners, an annual DeSoto calendar, free advertising, access to technical advisors for every model year, access to the club library, the ability to purchase merchandise from the club store, the ability to join a regional chapter, and also the ability to attend the annual conventions. You can easily join at https://www.desoto.org/membership

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Baron007
Posted 2025-04-02 4:05 PM (#639525 - in reply to #639506)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos



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I'll check for the 4dr Newport data plate...

Here are some pictures from the 2 cars.

 

 




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frwl
Posted 2025-04-03 1:37 PM (#639544 - in reply to #639482)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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Definitely VISTARAMA large shaded rear window (N2 data plate slot - order code 462) plus tinted all windows...



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(Vistarama Rear Window.jpg)



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59 explorer
Posted 2025-04-04 10:43 AM (#639558 - in reply to #639501)
Subject: RE: Help wanted for fendertags 2 59 Desotos


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Location: Hershey PA		Are you able to get a better picture of the VIN (M4514 1xxxxx) from the plate itself or perhaps off the title?
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