Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
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Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY



Paul
Readers are probably getting tired of this topic,,,but in closing allow me
to add my 58 POLY to the tally.  When I bought it in 1966 my  FLP8 was
knocking like a woodpecker.  Another couple miles and I would have kissed
the block goodbye! It had 48K miles on it.
Other than sick engine it was a beauty!  Got it for $100
ED
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul A. Schmidt 
  To: goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY


  Wish I new! Unfortianatley the original owners son in law of my car thru
the
  crank out. I used a '58  crank, since it listed as an interchange. The
'58
  LP2 crank I used was forged. I am still a believer that the '58 could
  possibly be a better crank. I never new of any throwing rods.
         A man I now that had a '58 from almost new took it in for service
and
  the mechanic took it for a ride and blew the hood open!!
                Paul
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "eddee" <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY


  > Paul and Brian
  > Looks like the FLP8 and FP31 are pretty similiar after all.  Certainly
  different crank ,,,,,,but rods,,,,who knows,,,maybe Chrysler will advise
at
  some point.
  >
  > Just for the heck of it-was the 57 crank forged or shotpeened or even
  crossdrilled to make it 'better' than the 58 and later cranks???
  > ED
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Paul A. Schmidt
  >   To: goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:34 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
  >
  >
  >   Eddie
  >         My book shows '58 Fury with 318 same piston part # as '57
Fury.
  #1818
  >   597. They are listed in seperate columns bur same #.
  >           The crank we agree on. Numbers that I posted earlier.
  >            The rods 56-57 Fury #1732 853
  >                  Also listed 56-58 LP2, LP2 Fury w318  #1618 697,
  FOOTNOTE 1
  >                       P29 from engine #1001-40000 &80001 - 250000 and
  after
  >   P29-274101.
  >                 Since a '57 is after the P29 wich rod does it
take????????
  >                             Paul
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: "eddee" <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   To: <goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:35 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
  >
  >
  >   > Paul
  >   > Let me give you the p/ns that I have for the FP31 only
(supposedly)
  Maybe
  >   you can put this to rest.
  >   >
  >   > P/N 1732-853     for 57 FURY AND 56 FURY 303 only       Con Rods (
ie:
  no
  >   58  318)
  >   > P/N 1732-611     For 57 FURY only     CRANK
  >   > P/N 1818-597     For 57 FURY only     Piston  std
  >   >
  >   > All of the other P/Ns seem to be common
  >   > ED
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: Paul A. Schmidt
  >   >   To: goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   >   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:56 AM
  >   >   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   According to my MOPAR parts book, the pistons and rods are the
same
  part
  >   #
  >   >   '57-'58, only the crank # changed.
  >   >                           Paul
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: "eddee" <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   >   To: <goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   >   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:57 AM
  >   >   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   > Brian
  >   >   > I think most of the 57/58 Polys had bottom end troubles. I
  remember my
  >   58
  >   >   Poly Fury in 1966,,with those solid lifters and cam and carbs I
  would
  >   wind
  >   >   that up like a top,,,62 MPH in 1st.  So I think a lot of the
Polys
  had
  >   >   trouble due to their own characterists.
  >   >   >
  >   >   > As far as internals for the FLP8 and FP31,,, this is 2nd hand
  >   info,,but
  >   >   semi confirmed. I have also talked to Chrysler about it,,no
response
  >   >   yet.....
  >   >   >
  >   >   > Forgetting about the cam, carbs, distrib etc which were
same....
  >   >   > The FP31 seems to have had its own crank,rods, piston which
the
  FLP8
  >   did
  >   >   not have.
  >   >   > Certainly they would interchange, but why were these parts
  specific to
  >   the
  >   >   57 FURY and in 58 they appear to be just common to other 318s???
  >   >   > Were the FP 31 pieces forged instead of cast?? or were the
rods
  and
  >   crank
  >   >   shotpeened??
  >   >   > or were they pre balanced?? or was the difference B.S.?
  >   >   >
  >   >   > I hope Chrysler tells me some day.      ED
  >   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   >   From: Brian Wittling
  >   >   >   To: goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:03 PM
  >   >   >   Subject: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   >   --- In goldenfin@xxxx, eddee <eddee@xxxx> wrote:
  >   >   >   > I understand your quest for origionality!!!  I feel the
  >   >   >   same!!,,,but don't down play the FP31.  Many believe it was
  truly
  >   >   >   a 'stronger ' built engine than the FLP8.  Keep us advised
  ED
  >   >   >
  >   >   >   Hi Ed,
  >   >   >
  >   >   >   I would never downplay the FP31! It's just disheartening in
that
  if
  >   I
  >   >   >   had known the car wasn't "all original" I may not have been
so
  >   >   >   adamant about the transmission rebuild I just went
through...  I
  >   >   >   could have just swapped out my trashed t-flite for a better
one,
  or
  >   >   >   an "off the shelf" rebuild, instead of going through the
pains
  of a
  >   >   >   $2,600 rebuild... which had to be done twice!
  >   >   >
  >   >   >   I thought the FP31 and FLP were identical motors...  is
there
  any
  >   >   >   refferences you can guide me to, to compare them?
  >   >   >
  >   >   >   thanks,
  >   >   >   Brian
  >   >   >
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