Re: Re: IML: That Salon

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From: randalpark@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed May 31 18:24:22 CDT 2006
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Subject: Re: IML: That Salon

If they had made an IMPERIAL in '78, that should have been it, and it only should have been available in that color, just like it was for the Salon. What a knock out!?Paul W.??
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From: Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: IML: That Salon

Actually, the Salon roof is unique to the Salon in several ways.- The 1974-77 models used a "halo" style roof, which leaves a thin spear of the body paint visible between the upper side window trim and the edge trim of the vinyl roof. Since all 1978 models with vinyl roofs use a non-halo roof (the vinyl extends to the upper side window trim, or drip rails), the Salon is the only 1974-78 Chrysler product with both a formal backlight (reduced-size rear window) and non-halo roof.- The Salon roof is padded, whereas the other 4-door vinyl roofs were not (only the St Regis/Crown Coupe roof for the 2-door models was padded).- As noted already, the smoother "Elk Grain" was unique to the Salon.Bill's listing of package contents is correct, though he left off the wider, and wider-whitewall, tires (unless they were not required in Canada, though they were in the US). The car came with Firestone 721 JR87-15 tires with a 1-5/8"whitewall. Still have one in the garage (not on the car, of course, though my car does still wear modern 721s in a matching spec)!Chris in LA78 NYB Salon67 Crown-----Original Message----->From: Bill Watson <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>>Sent: May 31, 2006 9:29 AM>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re: IML: That Salon>>>The Salon was available only as a NewYorker 4-door hardtop - the St.Regis>continued as the fancy 2-door package ($636) in both Newport and New Yorker>(series..>>The Salon package (sales code A71) included :>- Silver Crystal coat metallic paint (RA3), "buffed to a high gloss on>horizontal surfaces"  (so says Chrysler Canada's "Specials of the Year">folder)>- 50/50 cloth bench seat in Dove Gray (A3)  or Canyon Red (R4)>- Silver "Elk Grain" vinyl roof>- Red lower body side and deck stripes>- Formal backlite window>- Tilt / Telescope steering wheel>- Leather covered, 2-spoke, steering wheel>- Aluminum fascia road wheels>>Not included, but were mandatory options (meaning you got them and paid more>for them) :>- Trunk dress up>- Electric rear window defogger>- Rear fender skirts>>Thus the roof was, except for style of vinyl, the same as the 1974-75>Imperial LeBaron 4-door hardtop.  The regular Chrysler vinyl roof was>similar, but without the smaller formal back window.   And only the St.Regis>used the canopy style vinyl roof with the non-covered C pillar and the side>opera windows..>>Bill>Vancouver, BC>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >From: anthony bianchini>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:16 PM>Subject: RE: IML: That Salon>>>Yes, the article did say that the salon used the smaller rear window. In>fact there are beautiful pictures of the 1978 New Yorker Brougham with the>salon package and special wheels. I have never heard of or seen one?ever.>Great Article on these full sizers.>-Anthony Bianchini>1966 LeBaron-refuse to give up!>>-----Original Message----->From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of randalpark@xxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:18 AM>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: IML: That Salon>>The article that you discuss is the first place I have seen any mention of>the Salon Package that was available on the '78 cars. That particular>version of the car looked more like the last Imperial than anything else.>Didn't it also say that the Salon used the smaller rear window which had>disappeared with the '75 Imperial?>>Paul W.>>-----Original Message----->From: Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>To: IML (main) <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>Sent: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:21:51 -0700>Subject: Re: IML: The Imperials keep getting printed...>The Collectible Automobile article is actually on the ?74-78 Chryslers and>only includes the Imperial as a sidebar, but since the ?74-75 Imperial>became the ?76-78 NYB, it¹s an integral part of the story.>>The design saga reveals how the Imperial almost never made it past ?73 save>for the desire of a certain design chief who fell in love with the waterfall>grille idea and wanted to see it brought to life. This was the first time I>had heard of a connection between the ?74 cars and my favorite car designer,>Elwood Engel. Turns out he even personally picked up a knife one day in the>studio and carved the little bevel on the ³spare tire hump² (a la 1964) on>the trunk lid, so I guess I own more Engel-supervised cars than I thought!>>There are a few small reproductions in the CA article¹s sidebar of the>design sketches leading up to the ?74 Imperial, but they¹re too small (and>too few in number) to reveal how much of Engel¹s earlier Imperials is in>this car, and how the design continuity was carried through. (I¹ve always>thought my ?78 and ?67 look quite related when parked side-by-side.)>>There is a much better place to see these sketches and more: our own>website! A reprint of a fantastic article from the WPC Club News from what>seems to be 1979 or '80 is at:>>http://www.imperialclub.com/Articles/74-75WPC/index.htm>>Interestingly, Chrysler seemed to think at the time of Imperial's 1975>demise that moving its body to the New Yorker combined the best of both>worlds: The name recognition and appeal of "Chrysler New Yorker" and the>design of the Imperial. When Chrysler let the New Yorker name die in the>late 1990s, it was the longest-continuously-running car nameplate in the>industry. (Funny how they couldn't make Imperial as marketable a name.)>>Oh, by the way, if you happen to get the new (August 2006) issue of>Collectible Automobile, you can also see the first-ever mass-printed photos>of the 1978 New Yorker Brougham Salon Package, a model that did not appear>in any brochure or PR photography during its one model year. Twenty-eight>years later, a Salon has finally appeared in print!>>Chris in LA>67 Crown>78 NYB Salon>>>On 5/24/06 8:14 AM, Christopher Middlebrook at delamothe@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:>>> Hello Imperialists,>>>> Well, the fine folks at Collectible Automobile magazine have done it>again.>> Their latest issue features a great article on the 74-78 Imperials and>NYB's.>> Keep your eyes out for it at the newsstands, it just arrived.>>>> Chris Middlebrook>> 1962 Custom Southampton>>>>>>>-----------------  http://www.imperialclub.com  ----------------->This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the>Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm>-----------------  http://www.imperialclub.com  -----------------This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. 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