Re: IML: 60 Imperial-starter problem

["Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>]

Direct drive starters (up to 1961) and reduction gear starters (starting
1962) will NOT interchangge.  The tooth count on the ring gear is different
due to the differnt size gear in the starter clutch. (Benix drive)

American-built 1962-64 Chryslers and Dodge 880 models with manual
tramsmission and Canadian-built 1962-65 slant six models kept the direct
drive starter (Prestolite in the case of Chrysler Canada)..

Not sure what will happen if you place a reduction gear starter in a car not
oringinally equipped with such, but a friend had his Canadian-built 1964
Valiant Torqueflite overahuled along with a new torque converter.  The place
he took it to was a franchise for an American firm and had no data on
Canadian-built cars and thus used the same converter as in the U.S..   My
friend had a hard time starting the car using the Prestolite starter and
broke the teeth on the clutch of two starters.   Fortunately no damage to
the ring gear.  We changed the starter over to the reduction gear starter
with relay and all worked fine.

So if you have a pre-1962 Imperial, along with a pre-1962 torque converter,
you will have to stick with the Autolite/Prestolite direct drive starter.

Bill
Vancouver, BC



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenyon Wills" <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: IML: 60 Imperial-starter problem


>
> --- Tom Scott <shelbyguy@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> > Are they as easy to replace as the later gear
> > reduction starters?
> > Tom
>
>
>
> 1959-1983 starters are all about the same insofar as
> remove/replace procedure goes, I "think" (never did an
> 80's car, but...)  The B/RB Block that is the 413/440
> is the same.  Earlier years are likely not much
> different, either, but my hands-on spans 60-73.
>
> You'll find that learning your 1960 engine compartment
> is essentially learning the 61-75 cars with small
> jumps in accessory complexity each year, but similar
> if not identical architecture in the engines.
>
> If you have not redone your battery cables, especially
> the ground and the hot wire that goes to the starter,
> you'd be ahead if you did those too, cleaning all
> contacts while in there with contact cleaner and a
> wire brush as you go.  You're there already, and they
> are interdependent, after all.
>
> A poor connection can make your starter motor that
> much harder to operate, and things will get hot due to
> the increased resistance.
>
>
> -K
>



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