Re: IML: 90 imperial no start issue AGAIN!!

[aeyn <mr85000@xxxxxxxxx>]

On the 604, I beleive that the NSS is on the front right, as looking from the front bumper to the dash

Æyn

randalpark@xxxxxxx wrote:

I don't have a '90 Imperial, but I have found many newer cars have the
neutral safety switch mounted under the dash on the steering column.
Check the shop manual before going under the car.

Paul W.


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From: mrs954@xxxxxxx
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Sent: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 4:02 am
Subject: Re: IML: 90 imperial no start issue AGAIN!!



I'm not too familiar with the FWD cars but I would suspect the neutral
safety switch is on the front side of the transmission near where the
shift linkage enters the case. I'm sure there are others on this list
who are intimately familiar with the switch location, and how to test
it.  I'd look hard at this switch and the ignition switch in the
steering column. Also, did you check the wire connection (smaller
wire) at the starter?

 

Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: M. Esposito
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Sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: IML: 90 imperial no start issue AGAIN!!



Hi peter, yes I actually replaced the starter relay with a new one. and
Mark, where is the neutral safety switch ? and how is it checked? I did
shift to "neutral" and attempt a start,and I got the same no start, or
I should say no crank  situation.. I also tried adjusting the steering
wheel to multiple positions, and nada.

Peter wrote:
Matt: have you checked the starter relay in the relay and fuse box on
the
drivers side near the shock tower? My 93 5th Ave was doing the same
thing
your car is doing and it was the starter relay.
Peter Bilecki

81 Imperial EFI
93 5th Ave
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Subject: Re: IML: 90 imperial no start issue AGAIN!!


> Matt have you asked at a NAPA store Im Pretty sure the switch is
carried
> by them, It is common to all Mopar.
> --
> Alan Jordan
> 90 IMP
> 75 LeBaron
> 75 LeBaron Crown Coupe
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "M. Esposito"
>>
>> Thanks Alan, That gives me an idea of another place to check. I have
the
>> service
>> manual, so I can look it up. but thanks for the offer.
>> I thought it might not be the electrical part of the switch, only
because
>> it
>> worked after I glued the original lock cylinder piece (
re-installing it
>> into
>> the original switch) but you may be right, it pretty much is the
only
>> thing I
>> haven't replaced at this point.. I just hate to pay for it if I
don't
>> need it ..
>> only available at the dealer, and about 97.00 with tax for the
switch, I
>> just
>> paid over 100.00 for the cylinder and re-key.. but we gotta do what
we
>> gotta
>> do...
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> alan1416@xxxxxxx wrote: Also Matt
>> I can dig out my FSM and look up the pin out for the switch, this
will
>> tell you
>> what two wires in the switch engage the starter if this would help?
It
>> will
>> take me a few day to find the FSM but some others may have the
manual at
>> hand,
>> and can give info faster.
>>
>> --
>> Alan Jordan
>> 90 IMP
>> 75 LeBaron
>> 75 LeBaron Crown Coupe
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: alan1416@xxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Matt
>> > I dont think it is the anti theft system, my 90 has it. the car
will
>> > crank but
>> > will not fire or run.
>> > I think it is in the electrical part of the ignition switch. This
is
>> > the part
>> > you removed the key cylinder from. This part can be had at the
dealer
>> > or most
>> > parts stores.
>> > You can with small star drives wrench take the switch apart and
see in
>> > side
>> it.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alan Jordan
>> > 90 IMP
>> > 75 LeBaron
>> > 75 LeBaron Crown Coupe
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> > From: "M. Esposito"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > OK, this is becoming very frustrating.. but here's where I'm at.
our
>> > > 90 just
>> > > wouldn't start anymore, turn the key, dash lights as it should (
goes
>> > > thru a
>> > > test to show all digital displays are working) and them as you
turn
>> > > the key,
>> > > nothing happens, no click, no dimming of lights, etc.. so I
asked
>> > > here what
>> it
>> > > might be and it was suggested that the ignition switch was bad,
when
>> > > I took
>> > out
>> > > the switch, and removed the lock cylinder, I discovered a tiny
piece
>> > > of the
>> > > cylinder was broken off, ( where the cylinder seats in the
ignition
>> > > switch
>> )
>> > > anyway, I figured that had to be the problem because just for
grunts
>> > > and
>> > giggles
>> > > I glued the tiny piece back in place, re-installed the cylinder
and
>> > > viola,
>> the
>> > > car started right up as it always had .. but only once, when I
took
>> > > it apart
>> > > again, I cold see the little part had separated again, so a new
>> > > cylinder was
>> > in
>> > > order, and on order cause my local dealer didn't have them in
stock,
>> > > got it
>> > > today, had the locksmith re key my old key to it,
>> > > reinstalled it and again..NOTHING!! .. I'm back where I was
before..
>> > > now
>> this
>> > > car does have the factory anti theft system with a starter
interrupt,
>> > > could
>> > that
>> > > be the issue now? is there a way to override that interrupt to
see if
>> > > that's
>> > the
>> > > issue? I have already had the starter tested and replaced the
starter
>> relay..
>> > so
>> > > now what? can anyone please offer any suggestions?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks, Matt
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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