RE: IML:1972 Imperial GT headers X

[Stevan Licina <licina1@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

were do i find these headers I am in need of a factory replacement exhaust manifold on the drivers side for my 72 but if I can get a set of headers that will fit with out hitting the steering I'd go with them
Stevan

> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:06:55 -0700
> From: imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: IML:1972 Imperial GT headers X
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> It is my understanding that headers provide the most
> benefit at higher RPM, WOT applications, such as on
> race cars and salt flat sort of applications, and not
> so much at lower RPM, where our Torqueflight cars live
> and breathe.
>
> It's probably not really a major issue, but I passed
> on them for that reason and because I'm uninterested
> in having the high heat transfer into the engine
> compartment that headers offer, having replaced too
> many starters over heat-soak issues with just the
> stock system.
>
> I'm not in posession of hard engineering facts to
> present here and don't care to debate it besides
> commenting on the reason that I went that way, since
> most folks will not be going the HP route anyway.
>
> Also, unless there is a source that I missed, there
> are no prefabricated header systems that will fit
> later Imperials without serious modification -
> essentially boiling down to custom fabrication and
> significant expense. Imperial's K-member is 3 inches
> longer than the c-body and that changes things
> significantly.
>
> Whatever the differences, the HP manifolds offer
> tremendous value for their relatively low cost over
> headers for our "unusual" cars.
>
> Other applications may have a much more level playing
> feild due to mass production and economies of scale.
>
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>
> -K
>
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> --- Melissa Swenson <emswenson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > Headers are an excellent idea for our cars. I
> > realize there is a stigma that follows headers as
> > being a hotrodders trick; tinny, leaky, and loud,
> > rusting out in a couple of years' time. Today's
> > headers are thicker, have quality welded flanges,
> > come with gaskets, and if you pony-up the extra
> > cash, can have a high-tech coating put on for
> > longevity and cosmetic purposes. They are lighter
> > than the cast manifolds, hold in less heat, and flow
> > way better than the factory stuff. Plus, it gets rid
> > of that usually stuck-shut heat riser that can cost
> > you power, MPG, and could even burn valves! The
> > downside to that is if you live in a colder climate,
> > like me, your well-type choke may no longer
> > function. I would assume most of you don't drive you
> > Imperials in the winter anyway. Hooker makes a
> > C-body header that should fit '67-'75 Imps and
> > '76-'78 NYBs. Schumacher makes an excellent header
> > that should fit also. They are supposed to drop in
> > and require no "dinging" to make them fit. I own a
> > '65 Crown and if I can find a set that will fit my
> > chassis, I will definately use them! Heddman Hedders
> > has a set of "shorty" headers for all big-block
> > Mopars and look like they may fit. At only $135,
> > it's probably worth the experiment. Best of all, the
> > change is not permenant!
> >
> > Eric '65 Crown
> > Almost time to put the car away in MN!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: sjak brak
> > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: IML:1972 Imperial GT
> >
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> > I have mounted an Edelbrock performer on my car,
> > and it gained some fuel economy and better throttle
> > response.
> >
> > Regarding the exhaust manifolds, I've heard the
> > TTI-C-body headers require almost no cutting and
> > hacking. When I'll have the funds for it, I'll give
> > it a try.
> >
> >
> > On 10/15/07, MIKE CINDY BECKER
> > <mikeandcindyb@xxxxxxx > wrote:
> > HI Kenyon,
> >
> > I put a mopar performance dual plane intake
> > manifold (MP2) in my 67 imp convertible, I could not
> > tell the diff either. I tried using the HP c-body
> > exhaust manifolds, but the drivers side dumped into
> > the steering mechinism, it looks like in the
> > pictures yours is going to hit to. How did you solve
> > that problem ?
> >
> > thanks, Mike Becker, Salem, Oregon
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kenyon Wills
> > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 3:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: IML:1972 Imperial GT
> >
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> > Hotter cam.
> >
> > 1962 steering wheel.
> >
> > Looser exhaust with HP manifolds, Free-flow
> > mufflers
> > and free flow resonators. Sounds awesome at
> > stoplights and off idle and is surprisingly
> > quiet over
> > 2000 RPM - awesome on the freeway, since I
> > don't need
> > to spew noise pollution at speed and plan to
> > listen to
> > music or Liz's monologs.
> >
> > HD trans components including sintered torque
> > convertor fans and an extra clutch or
> > something that
> > made the trans "heavy duty", although I think
> > it was
> > already in HD mode for the heavy car - can't
> > recall.
> >
> > I went to my machine shop that has a sweet
> > tooth for
> > 440's (and 40 years experience) and to my
> > trans man,
> > who has at least 30 years in.
> >
> > Told them what I'm doing, and asked them to
> > set me up
> > with their preferred setups.
> >
> >
> > I care. Only I don't want to dwell on things
> > that
> > have gotten thought through already, so I
> > specified a
> > "GT" or Grand Touring car that would have the
> > chops
> > for super street manners without going to
> > anything
> > silly like nitrous or whatever.
> >
> > Result: Super engine/trans setup that are as
> > good as
> > anything I could have thunk up. So honestly,
> > I don't
> > know what cam/piston set is in there. Just
> > know It's
> > what Glen and brian said was the way to go.
> >
> >
> > I presume that you've seen the story I've
> > written so
> > far that needs updating soon:
> >
> > http://imperialclub.com/Yr/1972/Wills/
> >
> > Updated photos prior to just completed work:
> >
> >
> http://imperialclub.com/temp/Kenyon/72%20Coupe/72%20coupe%2007%2007/
> >
> > Note that the top was white, so that's why I
> > took that
> > shot.
> >
> >
> > I had a giant, deep pan and killer intake
> > manifold
> > that I had to get rid of due to non-fitting
> > issues. I
> > can't tell the difference on the intake
> > manifold, so
> > have written that off as a waste of money for
> > seat-of-pants stuff, although I'm sure it
> > shows up on
> > a dyno chart or whatever. I chickened out on
> > putting
> > in a hood scoop to accomodate the taller
> > manifold.
> > Too much work, and some cars just don't want a
> > hood
> > scoop. 1972 and 1990 included (some other
> > fellow did
> > his 1990 up with one and I thought it was a
> > swing and
> > a miss, -that's just me tho.)
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> > Kenyon Wills
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