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Dear Enthusiasts,
Have read several messages here regarding service life....I
recall Sherwood Kahlenberg writing of certain DeSotos that were sent on to
Israel after serving in taxi work here--these machines went on and on in similar
heavy use there under suboptimal conditions. In truth, any mechanism can
be ruined by callous inattention to care and feeding coupled with weather
vagaries.
The facts seem to conclude that service life varies over a
wide range depending on maintenance including filter changes, filter quality,
oil quality, lubricants, plus general tune, quality of gasoline, driver skill,
driver sensitivity and reaction and much more.
Rational buyers operating heavy trucks expect as much as
250,000 miles to the in-chassis overhaul, then an engine out of chassis overhaul
and re-install at 500,000 miles, another in-chassis overhaul at 750,000 miles
and so on. However, any of these engines can be literally ruined by an
uncaring driver. Four-wheel cars are generally much lighter built and thus
operators might expect less service even when done prudently. In fact,
though, when NASCAR was just a vision by Big Bill France he has been quoted as
wondering if a civilian car could actually run a 500-mile race. Johnny
Mantz soon demonstrated that a stock 1950 Plymouth could surely do just that,
winning at Darlington via steady running against the hotdog drivers in that
race. Imperials over the years did not shrink for extensive heavy use
where called for--again Mr. Kahlenberg has written of that Imperial Six design
of 1928-30 going on for several years in heavy-duty Dodge trucks frequently with
WOT operation. The In-Line L-Head Eights also saw heavy service
successfully (as lawbreakers caught by the California Highway Patrol driving the
Eights learned to their chagrin)--and the original HEMIs had a special following
in severe truck operations.
Chrysler designers set new marks for front-wheel designs, as
expert wheelman, engineer, and executive Burton Bouwkamp has written. Many
Omnis and subsequent vehicles including Imperials of the 1990s have yielded
effective travel well into six figures including a 1993 Concorde that appeared
at a local dealer shop for a "checkup" drive. The owner wanted to confirm
that all was okay for a major trip contemplated. The long-service tech
given the task began with a test drive that showed him power, response,
handling--all up to standard. Mileage on the car was just past 232,000
miles.
My personal Imperial experience over a quick 34 years includes
several extensive family trips coast to coast with GVW as much as 6,300 pounds
loaded. Our then family of five found the added room of both the 62 and 66
Imperials plus plenty of power, excellent handling, and welcomed chats along the
way made them beyond reproach as classy travel. Bob McAtee has written in
WPC NEWS of wonderful cross-country runs in 1941 and 1959 Imperials as has the
late Tom McCahill writing for Mechanix Illustrated and a
frequent visitor to Chrysler's famous Chelsea Proving Ground.
What a hobby!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:17
AM
Subject: Re: IML: +++ CHRYSLER LIMOUSINES
+++Trans-axles
I would suspect city driving, with many up-shifts, down shifts, OD on, OD
off, more sharp turns etc. could lead to early failure. When I'm in heavy
traffic or city conditions, I turn off the OD. We have many FWD cars in Fl.
that have high mileage, but spend more time in high gear, going striate on
very good roads. Just another thought, Dave.
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From: therichardsonfamily@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Just a comment - a guy here in my office drove a '99 Chrysler
300 to 192K,
> before trading it - with no engine or transmission
repair. Now he has a 2003
> Chrysler 300 that is currently at 195K -
again with no engine or transmission
> repair. Both front wheel
drive. Not bad!
>
> Dan Richardson
> 300L Family
Heirloom
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message
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> From: spicemanii@xxxxxxx
> > I
remember a famous engine builder-racer-experimentor that said, "Front wheel
> > drive cars would never last in a 500 miles race", to quote the
famous Smokey
> > Yunick".
> > Â Â My wife has a 02
Chrysler 300 with 31,000 miles and she recently heard,
> > will
not s ee 100,000 miles.
> > Â Â I wonder if she would drive my 61
LeBaron every day like before? hummm.
> > Nope, she said it is too
big! I get to drive it all by myself!!! hehehe
> > Â Â joe machado
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: santiam oregon
> >
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 5:42
pm
> > Subject: Re: IML: +++ CHRYSLER LIMOUSINES +++
> >
> >
> >
> > more accurately, the 2.6
Mitsubishi/Chrysler engine didn't have timing chains,
> > it had a
timing belt w/ a single overhead cam.  It also had a front mounted
> > oil pump with a sproket mounted to it that via a chain spun a
counterbalance
> > shaft that removed poor harmonics of a very
large 4 cylinder engine cheaper
> than
> > casting a
counterbalanced heavier crankshaft.  Â
> >
> > Â
> >
> > The one I overhauled in a Chrysler minivan had
overheated due to loss of
> > coolant, which warped the head,
galling the camshaft in its bearings and
> > snapping it in 2. I
poignantly recall/remember the design flaws of those
> >
engines. Later, I rebuilt the transaxle on the same vehicle, transaxles
seem
> > to be another soft-spot in 80's-90's Chrysler
engineering. I have yet to see
> > one make it over the 130K
mark w/o needing some kind of repair or patch up
> job.
> >
> > Â
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
Portland, OR
> >
> > aeyn wrote:
> >
> > There is also a 1985 Limo - eBay Item
120210249016.
> >
> > JUST BE AWARE that the 2.6
Chrysler/Mitsubishi engine was a piece
> > of junk and had to have
4 timimg chains to try to co mpensate for
> > its upper head oil
pressure flaw. Fortunately, it was not an
> > Imperial. I had a
1985 New Yorker which was loaded to the hilt,
> > but the engines
and aluminium heads were junk.
> >
> > Æyn
>
> 1975 LeBaron
> > 1993 Sedan
> >
> > ---
mamrom@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Very-Rare-1-of-594-made-low-miles-COOL-LIMO_W0QQi
> > temZ320207843774QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320207843774
>
> >
> > >
> > > >From:
drschessler@xxxxxxx
> > > >Date: 2008/01/15 Tue PM 05:50:39
CST
> > > >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >Subject: IML: +++ CHRYSLER LIMOUSINES +++
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Hello All,
> > >
>
> > > >It is my objective to purchas e a 1985 (all
other years will
> > > also be considered) Chrysler Limousine
(not the Executive
> > > Sedan) as I need/want a vehicle with
the divider partition
> > > between the driver and passenger
compartments.
> > > >
> > > >I came across
the this club while doing some "goggle-ing" on
> > > the
internet.  I love Imperials and DeSotos (I would
> > >
definitely consider owning a '57, '58, or '59), I own
> > >
neither.  While I've found the information I've gained
> >
> interesting, I just don't have the time to keep be getting and
>
> > reading non-directly related e-mails. Please understand.
> > > >
> > > >Therefore, before I
disconnect myself from your wonderful
> > > network of
motorists, I'm making a serious plea to everyone for
> > > any
information that could help me accomplish my goal of
> > >
acquiring a Chrysler K-car Limousine.
> > > >
> >
> >I'm not picky and will take any and all leads no matter how
> > > far fetched or wild. And just so you know, there's
nothing
> > > currently on e-Bay. And to keep from clogging
up this fine
> > > club's listserv with my off topic matter,
do address my
> > > personal e-mail [ DRSchessler@xxxxxxx ]
with LIMO in the
> > > subject line.
> > > >
> > > >Thank you all so very much
> > > >for
any and all assistance
> > > >and happy Imperial motoring,
> > > >
> > > >Dean-Ross Schessler
>
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