Re: [FWDLK] '59 DeSoto exhaust manifold.

[phoenix61 <phoenix61@xxxxxxxxx>]

Whew
Thanks to Jim because I sure didn't want to contest Bill! I have a 1961 Dodge
Phoenix that my parents purchased new from the factory. I remember my dad, a
journeyman mechanic, touting to all when he opened the hood that it came standard
with alternator. I even went to my files and pulled the original paperwork to see
if he had ordered it as an option. Nope. Thanks again, Jim
Doug

Bill Watson wrote:

> Jim Pristelski pointed out to me that U.S.-built 1961 and 1962 Mopars did
> have the alternator as standard equipment.  Reading the brochures of the
> period, that fact was not loudly broadcast except in the Valiant and Lancer
> issues.  Only the "Electrical Equipment" section of the brochures made
> mention of the alternator being standard.
>
> Chrysler Canada, though, was another story, holding off on the alternator
> until 1963, although it was optional in 1961 and 1962, including the
> Valiant.
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '59 DeSoto exhaust manifold.
>
> > I believe if you look closely at that "HL383" you will see it is "ML383".
> > It "M" stands for 1959.
> >
> > The 1959 DeSoto Firesweep came with a 361, but the rest of the line came
> > with the B block 383 - 2-bbl on the Firedome, 4-bbl on the Fireflite and
> 2,
> > 4-bbl pn the Adventurer.   (Only the U.S-built Windsor and Saratoga used
> the
> > RB block 383.)
> >
> > Altough the alternator was standard on American-built 1960-62 Valiants and
> > Lancers, the rest of the car lines had the generator standard and the
> > alternator optional.   It did not become standard across the board until
> > 1963.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> > Vancouver, BC
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Agnew
> > To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:20 PM
> > Subject: [FWDLK] '59 DeSoto exhaust manifold.
> >
> >
> > Gents....my friend has a '59 Fireflite Sportsman 2 dr h/t with a 383 with
> > one 4 bbl. Stamped on the boss is HL383. Looks like the 361 was the
> standard
> > motor from literature I have, and it got a 383.
> > The R/H exhaust manifold has been welded so much it's cracked yet again
> and
> > is a writeoff. Numbers are ground off, looks like it could have been
> > 1946969.....looking at the '59 parts book, that is. L/H manifold on the
> car
> > is 1739600, so that ties in.
> > My question is.....what else will fit, and have the same generator
> casting?
> > I'm guessing not much, as '61 was all alternators.
> > Am I correct in thinking that only the R/H manifold from any big block
> > MoPar from '59 or '60 ( excluding the different one that the 300F had and
> > that of the '59 Adventurer )  will fit?
> > And......does anybody have one that they would be willing to part with (
> > uncracked would be best!).  These are very hard to find down here......
> >        Thanks in advance...........
> >                        Dave in New Zealand.
> >
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