Quite a story Neil!
You could write a book about all this knowledge.
Yes, I would like to receive the pics, as you probably expected.
Jim Hoekendijk.
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: eastern sierra Adj Services <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxx>
Datum: woensdag, mei 4, 2005 5:19 am
Onderwerp: [FWDLK] CLUTCH? Car-GO! , or: believing-is-seeing.
> Ok, folks, I've got Horrie back, from the auto-doc, today, and
> can, now,
> definitively
> report that a Jaguar "XJ" (2 1/2" -deep, o.a.)
> visquous fan clutch WILL fit-and-work, on our Dodge & Plymouth
> cars. The
> CHRYs/IMPs (& the 'big' Sotos) may, already, have O.E.M. fan
> clutches;why should THEY have all the fun????
>
> I don't know if the big(ger-)dogs have room for the standard/modern
> readily-available 3" clutches, but if that "size" won't "fit'
> them (as
> it won't, on the Dods/Plys) , and if a replacement
> unit becomes necessary, then the 2 1/2" Jag-guy will work, for
> them, as
> well.
>
> My project was delayed by the necessity of re-coring H's radiator.
>
> If/when you do this mod to your ride, you should be prepared to
> have the
> following anciliary maintenance be performed:
>
> 1. Water pump check-out/replacement. My car's pump was fine, &
> anti-freeze contains pump-lubricant, but you might encounter a nasty
> surprize; if you do, now is the time to replace that pump; be
> prepared,not 'dismayed'!
> 2. Radiator check-out/clean-out. I thought Horrie's radiator was fine
> (it looked/acted that way), but, after arriving @ the local rad-shop,
> for a "rodding-out" operation, the guy looked @ H's naked
> (paint-stripped) body, & said :"enuf's enuf, after 48+ years, the
> core'stired. & beginning to corrode. So, a new alunimum 3-row
> piece was
> installed, that takes up as much 'room' as the O.E.M.'s 2-row core.
>
> 3. Fan belt check-out/replacement; what-the-hell, you're right
> "there",anyway.
>
> 4. Trannie flush/clean-out. I THOUGHT that my parts shop had
> procured a
> cast-iron transmission gasket; turns-out "it" was for the aluminum
> 727-guy. As the transmission is operating perfectly-well, I agreed
> to
> have my shop "flush" the trannie fluid, with the radiator removed, &
> with the engine running. HOW they did this, I dont recall, but,
> Horrie'snow got 18 pints of new-fluid in him.
>
> 7-blade fan assemblies are plentiful, and one should be installed in
> this application, but the O.E.M. 4-blade fan will bolt-right-up,
> if you
> want to try to keep an 'original' under-hood appearance. If it
doesn't
> work-out, with adequate air-flow, a 7-blade fan can be easily
> installed.
> As for tonite's test drive: WONDERFUL!!! I can't believe how much
> noisethe O.E.M. fan had produced! Now, "you" just hear the exhaust
> note, and
> carb-air induction; and not a lot of 'racket', from under the hood.
>
> As for performance & MPG, he could, already, light-up his 3.36:1
> peg-leg
> rear end, but his get-up-and-GO is certainly there! Mileage is TBD.
>
> As I had retrofitted a water-cooled trannie, I didn't want to
> mess-around with the plumbing, to the radiator's bottom tank, so I
had
> my mech-shop, do the install on the fan clutch.
>
> But, if your car has an air-cooled trannie, or if the prospect of
> possible plumbing-leakages doesn't faze you, this clutch-installation
> project is truly a backyard-capable job!
>
> The O.E.M. fan bolts are, like, 4" long, so the radiator needs to be
> drained & removed, to effectuate the removal of the 4-blade fan, and
> spacer, from the water pump.
>
> If (AFTER!) the radiator & water pump check-out OK, and the trannie
> fluid is replaced, you just have to "do" the following:
> a): take the clutch to a general-mechanical shop, & have
them "bush"
> the fan clutch's central orifice, so that it will fit tightly to the
> water pump's protruding-mounting-nub (no big deal), and:
> b): cut slots into the fan clutch's mounting holes, so that 1"
bolts
> (available @ any parts-house) can be 'maneuvered' into/between
> the fan
> clutch & the water pump
> (REALLY no big deal ).
>
> I've got about 40 pics of the complete operation, as above-
described,
> at my office, which has a different 'address:
> esierraadj@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> anyone is interested in seeing "the details" of this project. I'll
> just'reply' to your message, & attach the pics.
>
> BTW, as the pics are not captioned, naturally, you'll see:
>
> 1. Jag-clutch mated to MoPar 7-blade fan (with the front-edges
> of the
> fan lying behind the front-edge/surface of the clutch.)
>
> 2. "Bushed" inner orifice of the clutch, with view of its flange's
> mounting bolt-holes.
>
> 3. Views of O.E.M. 4-blade set-up (note the (APPARENTLY-good
condition
> of the radiator)
> His old/dead water-injection resevoir is also seen.
>
> 4. Views of new fan clutch installed, with radiator removed.
>
> 5. Detail-views of fan clutch installation, with flange-"slotting"
and
> mounting-bolts seen.
>
> 6. Stripped radiator, @ shop, standing next to new/replacement
> core, and
> detail views of 'hidden' corrosion @ cooling tubes, at bottom-
> tank, with
> prior cooling-tube repair evident---best to replace the core, NOW.
>
> 7. Newly-installed 3-row, aluminum radiator core, before-and-after
> gloss-black painting.
>
> 8. A SAD, forlorn-looking (really!) Horace, residing, alone,
> inside the
> mechanical shop, over the weekend , awaiting the return of the
> overhauled radiator.----TELL me, if I'm wrong
> (or, nuts!)
>
> 9. Fully-installed radiator and fan clutch assembly (as of
> 5/03/05!!!!
> As "Alumcan" has an intimate relationship with the FWDLK
> website/chatrooms, (& I know that he LURKS here!) I'd appreciate
> it, if
> he'd post my pics/story-info to that site, as this clutch
installation
> information should be shared with as many people, as possible.
>
> Finally, I got Horrie's Jag-clutch @:
>
> Jagoutlet.com , San Luis Obispo, CA ; they DO have a toll-free phone
> number; ask for "Terry", my total cost was $47.18, shipped to
Bishop,
> CA. Terry said that 'they' have "quite a few"
> of these clutches in-stock (gee, I wonder why; XJ Jags 'last' so long
> [LOL] ).
>
> Neil Vedder
>
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