Re: [FWDLK] old car taxes?
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Re: [FWDLK] old car taxes?



New York charges a sales tax based on the sale price of the vehicle.  I
believe it's whatever the sales tax rate is where you live - 3 or 4 percent
state and the county or city adds on enough to make it as much as 10% in
some places.

The lowest amount the computer system will accept is $1.00 - I gave a guy 2
cents, literally, for a beater a couple years ago, and had to pay 8 cents
tax on it -  (technically it was free, but they just wanted it gone and I
didn't want to mess around trying to get them to sign the form showing it as
a gift and so on, I was lucky enough just to get the title)


On the bright side, it is stupid easy to register a car without paperwork.
As long as you have proof of insurance, proof of VIN, proof of weight, and a
couple of DMV forms that do not even need to be notarized, you're good to
go.  No titles on '72-earlier.



Bill K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Jones" <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] old car taxes?


> To add to this thread:
>   Here in Arkansas, over 25 years old and it qualifies for an Antique
> Car tag. Cost $10.00, one time. Can't be transfered to another car, but
> you never have to renew it again. Has to be insured, and you must have
> another car/truck with a current regular tag. We do pay annual property
> tax on homes, land and vehicles, called "assessment". When they get to
> 25 years old the tax is about $5. You can also get a permanent Trailer
> Tag for $35.00 and it never has to be renewed. For the most part, small
> trailers such as Golf Cart trailers, never seem to get tagged at all.
> Doesn't seem to matter.
>
> As to "unsightly", if that applied here, the Dentist's would love it.
> Living Rural, means there's no Permits, Inspections, or Zoning Laws.
> Park as many as you want, build any building you want, open a business
> if you want, if it doesn't involve food, (Health Insp.) help yourself.
> The neighbors won't complain, 'cause then YOU could complain about
> their place, and they're not having that crap!
>
> With wonderful people, beautiful scenery, very reasonably priced
> acreage, homes, or any combination of them, there's not much reason to
> live anywhere else, that is, anywhere out of URBAN Areas.
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2006, at 3:52 AM, David Homstad wrote:
>
> > Ted,
> >
> >
> >
> > In my opinion, there is a legal challenge here waiting for the right
> > lawyer. A secret value tax on property that bears no resemblance to
> > its actual value sounds illegal to me. You might plant the idea in
> > some lawyer’s head that if these millions were collected illegally, he
> > might get to keep a third of the refunds as his fee.
> >
> >
> >
> > If the old car fraternity is tired of being a "cash cow", it is time
> > to organize a revolt. Somebody in NC should collect all the car clubs
> > in the state together into a club for car clubs. The goal of the “NC
> > Car Club Association” would be to organize non-conflicting dates for
> > shows and to contribute to a fund to provide a part time lobbyist in
> > the legislature. If you can collect enough bodies with one voice, they
> > will be heard. If no legislators want to listen, let them know your
> > group will be actively campaigning AGAINST them. They are taking money
> > out of your pocket, so why not take money out of theirs?
> >
> >
> >
> > In Minnesota, we do have a car club association for organizing events.
> > There are about 100 clubs in the association. The MN Street Rod
> > Association (MSRA) (one club) has 10,000 members and their own
> > lobbyist. Annual license fees for new cars are about $300, but this
> > drops yearly to a bottom of $50. Through the efforts of the MSRA, any
> > car over 20 years old can be registered as a classic for $25, with no
> > annual fees of any kind forever. They got other items allowed, such as
> > registering license plates from the year the car was manufactured, and
> > a flat $90 sales tax on sold collector vehicles (even if it is worth 1
> > million). They also got emissions testing eliminated for all cars by
> > providing data of its ineffectiveness!
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Homstad
> >
> >  56 Dodge D500
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cebuisle2@xxxxxxx [mailto:Cebuisle2@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:06 AM
> > To: L-forwardlook@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: old car taxes?
> >
> >
> >
> > I appreciate Roger's problems with California's taxes. Lived there
> > myself years ago'
> >
> >
> >
> > Here in North Carolina they have a different swindle going. The car is
> > valued according to a "value book " that no one ever sees. It
> > apparently is kept in Raleigh. No other value books are allowed. This
> > book rates cars as "restored" so you pay a tax based on their
> > assessment of a number one vehicle. It doesn't matter that your car is
> > a parts vehicle that will never run, or like mine, is just a Saturday
> > night driver to the local Sonic complete with rust spots.
> >
> >
> >
> > In addition to the yearly tax there is of course the annual license
> > fee, same as all other cars.
> >
> > You don't have to license a parts car, but still must pay the annual
> > tax. This results in the guy with a rusted out old car out back
> > junking the car rather than paying an annual tax on it.
> >
> > The wrecking yard owners love this set up, as they can then sell parts
> > from it after the county orders it confiscated for non payment of the
> > tax, or other "unsightly" issues.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roger mentions that politicians rate lower than used car salesmen.
> > Remember, the vast majority of politicians are lawyers, and on surveys
> > they rate under used car salesmen also-
> >
> >
> >
> > The old car fraternity is regarded as a "cash cow" by the politicians,
> > and worse by your next door neighbor. Only by uniting as a political
> > action group can we secure protection from the buzzards. But by
> > nature-old car enthusiasts are reluctant joiners-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Been there--- Ted
> >
> >
> > 55 Imperial sedan
> >
> >
> > 56 Dodge Royal sedan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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