I think wood blocks under the seat track was a common dealer thing added for
short customers.
A buddy of mine bought a 53 Olds 98 2 dr ht from the original owner little
old lady who was about 4'11". The power seat still needed 2 inch wood blocks
under it, so at max height, she could see over the dash. She said the blocks
were installed by the dealer.
Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500
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On my 57 HT, decades ago, I noticed that the factory/sub-contractor had
installed about 1/2" tall wood
blocks under the manual seat's 'legs-bases' in order to increase the
height of the seat.
The car was built in late March; I don't know when this non-adjustable
seat height increase was instituted.
I saw a 1959 Custom Royal 4-dr sedan which was in fine #3 condition, but
which was sacrificed to restore
a basket case CRL convertible, after its swivel (power, IIRC) seat was
removed.
I immediately noticed that the floor pan was virtually flat, compared to
the 57-58 models, which required that
DEEP OEM floor troughs had to be welded into the floor pans, in order
to accept the power seat control-lifter
mechanisms.
Power bench seats WERE available in 1959 (Speed Age famously tested a
1959 CRL D500 convertible
with air suspension, and a power bench seat) .
I'm wondering if Nick's car might have 57-58 power seat
adjuster-mechanisms on it.
I retrofitted a 57 CHY power bench seat onto my car (complete with the
installation of its deep-troughs into
the floor pans) and always have its seat height residing at maximum
altitude---in this position, the seat
is not quite at "chair-height", but, there is not much room to slide my
legs under the steering wheel
and the seat cushion.
Once seated, the steering wheel is at a very nice angle-position, and my
head is well under
the headliner, and I am 5'10" .
Neil Vedder
jrawa@xxxxxxx wrote:
> all manual bench seats from 57-59 use the same frame/tracks, the
> swivel seats were a 59 only issue of those 3 yrs... and have their own
> tracks. there are no adjustments as on the later c-bodies. all 3
> years of the cars' floor pans are the same, with no difference for
> swivel cars, as ron already noted. there are 2 versions of the lower
> section of the frt seat though, just the way the springs attach to the
> frame, but it doesnt affect the height.
>
> the floor is recessed where the seat tracks go, with an understructure
> of 10ga metal, that has buttresses to the rocker to support the seat.
> if you were to pull a straight line form the major surface of the
> floor to the lowered section of where the track legs bolt through - ti
> would be about 1/2 - 5/8 lower after a 2-step drpression on a factory
> panel.
>
> i have repadded and reupholstered several of my 57-9 already over the
> yrs, and based on how i set up the foam, varies the seating height...
> i havent had to deal with a rusted floor for the past 20 or so
> forwardlook cars so i know everything is in check and the variable is
> the seat foam, on 1 58 plym i have about 1" clearance to the cieling
> [at 6' tall] since i padded it very firm on the acct of drag racing,
> another i did with stock thickness foam and i have almost 2.5" of
> headroom, my all original 58 with survivor upholstery grants the same
> 2.5"ish headroom.
>
> its a toss-up, but i'd lean towards acheiving a correct mounting
> height- unless the upholsterer went out of control, its a little hard
> to over pad a swivel seat than a typical bench- especially if they
> used the original upholstery as a pattern.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan & Roger van Hoy <vanhilla@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 10:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Front seat problem
>
> This might be a long shot, but... the seats in the later MoPars, at
> least the C bodies around '65 and after, had manual adjustments on the
> front seat tracks. Two bolts and two slots to raise and lower and/or
> move front or back. Maybe you could use that sort of seat track on
> your '59.
>
> --Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56 Plymouth,
> '66 Plymouth, '41 Dodge
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nichols" <nick.barb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nick.barb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
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> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:43 AM
> Subject: [FWDLK] Front seat problem
>
> > My '59 Plymouth has swivel seats and the floor pans has been replaced
> > at some point. The front seat has been reupholstered and the seat
> > sits higher than it is supposed to, mainly because the floor pans are
> > sitting higher than the originals. Also, the seat being reupholstered
> > doesn't help, as the newer cushions are sitting higher than an old
> > worn down seat would. Anyone have any thoughts and how to lower the
> > seat without having to redo the floor pans?? Removing some cushion
> > material was all I could think of. I am 6 feet tall which causes my
> > head
> > to be right at the top of the headliner with the seat as is.
> >
> > Any info greatly appreciated.
> > Nick Nichols
> >
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