[Chrysler300] 1964 300K tires

["Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx>]

My friend, fellow Iowa Boy, fellow 300K owner and fellow club member, John
Holst,  has created a 300K website http://www.jholst.net  whereon he has
posted posted pdf?s of the documents listed below.  To access the list from
the home page, click on ?Dust to Dust?.  At the ?1964 Chrysler
Options/Interior/etc? section all options are listed, including tires.  It
indicates 8.00 X 14 BSW Rayon tires were standard on 300K?s with the
standard single 4-bbl 413 K engine.  8.50 X 14?s were standard on the
ram-engined K?s and on standard K?s with a/c.  9.00x14 tires were available
on all ?64 Chryslers.   1-1/16? WSW?s were available on all tire sizes.
John?s site is well structured, interesting and highly relevant.  He spent a
lot of time scanning in the pages and it is a readily accessible and useful
site for K owners.  John owns a K his father bought new.  Thanks to John for
making his work available to us all.  It seems worthy of a link at our club
website.

 

Tractor and tire guru Edward Mills indicates below that if the tires were
Goodyears, they would all have been ?Custom Super Cushion Rayon which were
still available in 4-ply in the larger sizes or 4-ply rating (2-ply).?
Thanks to Ed for sharing his knowledge, experience and data bank with us.  I
have an inquiry out on the tires and have heard nothing to the contrary.  I
was wondering if the K?s might have been equipped with some special grade of
racing tire like the Blue Streaks in 1964, but apparently not.  Isn?t the
300K capable of 130-140+ MPH top speed?  Seems like the Custom Super Cushion
Rayon?s were either overkill on the Newport?s or marginal on the K?s. 

 

As an aside, I actually have two 8.00X15 Goodyear Blue Streaks with narrow
WSW?s and have been unable to determine what car or cars they might have
been standard on.  These narrow WSW tires don?t appear on the list at the
club?s website as coming standard on 300?s, but perhaps the 8.00?s were an
optional tire to the 7.60?s of 1962 and 1963.  The Blue Streaks are knee
deep in rubber, in excellent shape, surplus to my needs and available to an
interested and unbiased operator.

 

 

Rich Barber

1801 Redwine Terrace

Brentwood, CA 94513-6000

Home: (925) 513-6583

Cell:  (925) 783-4893

e-mail:  c300@xxxxxxx

 





 

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 <http://www.jholst.net/iowa-database.html> Iowa Chrysler 300 Member Contact
Data Base

 <http://www.jholst.net/interchange/index.php> 1950-1965 Chrysler Parts
Interchange Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/carb-book/index.php> 1950-1964 Chrysler
Carb/Ignition Parts Book

 <http://www.jholst.net/64-service-manual/index.php> 1964 Chrysler Service
Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/64-supplement/index.php> 1964 Chrysler Service
Manual Supplement

 <http://www.jholst.net/64-dealer/index.php> 1964 Chrysler
Options/Interior/Exterior
Color Codes and Fabric Swatches

 <http://www.jholst.net/wiring/wiring.pdf> 1964 Chrysler Wiring Diagram

 <http://www.jholst.net/64-owners-manual/64-owners-manual-1.pdf> 1964
Chrysler Owners Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/64-300-intro/300-introduction.pdf> 1964 Chrysler New
Owner Introduction Booklet

 <http://www.jholst.net/tech-manual/option-price.pdf> 1964 Chrysler Options
and Prices

 <http://www.jholst.net/55-58-parts-manual/index.php> 1955-1958 Chrysler
Parts Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/59-parts-manual/index.php> 1959 Chrysler Parts
Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/60-parts-manual/index.php> 1960 Chrysler Parts
Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/61-parts-manual/index.php> 1961 Chrysler Parts
Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/62-parts-manual/index.php> 1962 Chrysler Parts
Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/63-parts-manual/index.php> 1963 Chrysler Parts
Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/64-parts-manual/index.php> 1964 Chrysler Parts
Manual

 <http://www.jholst.net/65-parts-manual/index.php> 1965 Chrysler Parts
Manual

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Edward Mills Antique Tractors
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:39 AM
To: Rich Barber
Cc: 'jean-yves chouinard'; 'keboonstra'; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] The tires aren't rolling yet

 

  

Last reference to special high performance Blue Streak tires on 300s 
that I can find is 1960 300F with 9.00-14. The 300G went to 8.00-15 with 
8.20-15 optional and the 300H and 300J had 7.60-15 6 ply. It appears 
that the 300K shows standard 8.50-14 4ply and the 300L shows 8.55-14 
with 8.85-14 optional.

As of January 1 1964 Goodyear Price Lists, the Blue Streak (equipped 
with sidewall valve for optional use with "Captive-air steel-cord safety 
shield") was only made in 3 sizes - 9.00-14 ($100.65 list price), 
7.60-15 ($94.45), and 8.00-15 ($100.65). All were narrow white, 3T Nylon 
cord - plies not specified. 8.50-14 OE Tires listed by Goodyear were 
Custom Super Cushion Rayon which were still available in 4-ply in the 
larger sizes or 4-ply rating (2-ply).

On 11/17/2011 7:19 PM, Rich Barber wrote:
>
> Our 1964 300K ram-engined convertible came shod with 8.50 X 14 bias-ply
> tires with 1-1/16" WSW's. The spec's say just "Rayon". Most of the tires
> on the car are now H78-14's. Does anyone with a K having one or more 
> of the
> original tires provide any additional information on the tires?
> 4-ply/6-ply? Goodyears? Model name of the tire? Special high-performance
> racing tires? Like owners of 1957-60 Chrysler 300's, I've been trying to
> find a suitable radial replacement for the 8.50 x 14 tires---only with the
> narrower WSW.
>
> My question is why the apparent preference for the 235/75R14 size over the
> 225/75R14? Looking at OD's, I find the original 8.50 x 14 has an OD of
> 28.10" (ref. Coker Catalog BFG tire); the P225/75R14 has an OD of 
> 27.62" and
> the P2325/75R14 has an OD of 27.87" (ref Coker catalog Coker Classic and
> American Classic). Is the ¼" greater OD of the 235 important? Other than
> the normal radial bagginess, this only equates to 1/8" lower ride height.
> The 235 also has 0.26" greater tread width and nets over 1.55" wider tread
> width. Certainly, the 8.50's look a little wimpy when viewed head-on---as
> compared to either of the radial tires.
>
> I'm not arguing for one size or the other, just wondering why the apparent
> preference for the 235. If and when Diamond Back starts offering the
> 235/75R14 tires, I'm assuming they will be available in the 1-1/16" WSW.
>
> I've also come up with this P225/75R14 tire:
>
http://www.tiremonkey.com/Inventory/El%20Dorado%20-%20Golden%20Fury%20GFT%20
> -%2048%20-%201230099.aspx A call to Tire Monkey resulted in me recording a
> phone inquiry and no response yet.
>
> Your information on the original 1964 tires?
>
> Your preference for 225/75R15 or 235/75R14 size and why?
>
> Am I missing any alternatives?
>
> Facts and opinions always welcome and thanks for either or both.
>
> C300K'ly,
>
> Rich Barber
>
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> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of jean-yves chouinard
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:45 PM
> To: 'keboonstra'; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] The tires aren't rolling yet
>
> I can hardly believe there is such a low demand for those 235-75R14 
> that DB
> is not going ahead right now with production of such a tire!! Most 
> American
> cars had 14 inch tires in the early 60's!! That size has to be somewhat
> popular. There seems to be a lot of people waiting for those 14 inch 
> tires,
> I would buy 5 now if they were available, so why the wait??
>
> I was counting on this coming Spring to buy the tires as the car will be
> ready then...now late 2012 before the tires are available??...bummer.
>
> Jean-Yves
>
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> Envoyé : 17 novembre 2011 13:16
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> Objet : [Chrysler300] The tires aren't rolling yet
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I just talked to Bill Chapman at Diamond Back Tires. I was looking for an
> update on the 235-75R14 tire project. He is focusing on a new 225-75R14 at
> the moment, and in the spring he is moving on to the 235-75R15, and 
> then to
> the 235-75R14 in the fall. His current projection has the 235-75R14
> available "by the end of 2012".
>
> Thought you'd like to know where things stand.
>
> Keith Boonstra
>
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