300 group .....
i just talked to gary on the j seat
problem .
the first problem is getting sms to do
the vinyl .
then a peice of vinyl is sent to gary's
leather guy for a sample .
garys has done this before and his leather
guy came very very close to matching the color.
if there is five interiors out
there to be done gary and i will get on this . gary can deal
with doug at sms better than anybody . so he has to be the one to deal with sms
.....
then there is the problem with carpet
. acc is the only supplier for carpet, gary would be
willing to call them to see if they are interested in doing the
carpet .
so if there is any interest in this let
me know.....
on another note . the sill plate dies
[60 -64 ] were shipped to a machine shop for stamping so those will
be coming soon .
the second batch of heal plates are coming
soon too....
a batch of 57 -59 sill plates are in the mail
as we speak. so they will be back in stock.
also 57- 59 sill plates dodge and
plymouth and desoto can be had if there is any
interest..
bob
hayen 406- 752- 5152
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:53
PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] J interior
dye
bob hayen here in kalispell, montana
if my memory serves me right, gary did a
set of j seats a number of years back . i just left a message on his
phone to call me back on this problem . i think he has some
kind of a formula on paper or in his head for this crazy
color . i will chime in when i hear from him ..
bob hayen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:53
PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] J interior
dye
The issue here is trying to match the very difficult to properly
replicate claret red metallic leather of the 300J. To the eye it
appears to be a copper-red metallic color with a silver hue. It
doesn’t surprise me that black is in the mix, but I don’t know why that
can’t be mixed with red pigment. The issue in the USA, as I have been
told, is the current bureaucratic BS imposed on companies by the EPA which
has effectively outlawed the proper red pigments. At least that is the
story I got from Leatherique (a major and well respected supplier of custom
matched leather dye). Leatherique was unable to match my unfaded
original J interior sample with legal pigments, and they didn’t return the
sample either. For a non-metallic red, such as the darker red/brown on
the upper door panels of the J, they have no problem matching
that. They could probably approximate the overall color hue of
the claret red in a non-metallic format, but it would require a complete
redying of the interior including the door panels and dash vinyl as it would
not match the original color. My understanding is that it has always
been a difficult color to replicate exactly, even when more pigments were
available. Ever wonder why most Js have their original leather seats,
no matter how torn up they are? This is why. The few that have
been redone, including the front seats in my own J, are not perfect.
Mine are very close, but were done 13 years ago, when pigments were
plentiful. And still, some dye tends come off even with mild
cleaners. Nothing seems to reproduce the quality and color palate of
the original factory material.
Hence Johnnie’s quest to source a match from outside the States, which
seems a dead end as well.
We (Jamie Hyde of the reproduction committee in particular) have been
working with SMS on a solution, but that involves new leather not a
dye. And with SMS’s “lightening fast” response times, we may all be
centenarians before we see a product.
Any help would be appreciated by those who are trying to restore a
J.
300Jly,
Carl B
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] J interior dye
I missed the thread on this somehow, but it sounds like a
problem I may have helpful information on. Is there a particular color of
leather that you need to find a matching dye or coloring product for?
Keith Boonstra
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