RE: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!
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RE: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!



Right on, Rich !  Ram manifold 300 wagons , green and white (well , sort of a 300) new ,  on the fairly new mass pike,  finally caught  (new item then) a 260 or 289 Cobra that had been playing with State Police for months,, just East of Boston, Cobra losing the dog 406 Fords, 406 cop car was becoming  was becoming a joke in Cambridge. . . (almost as fast as a 352) . Think the Chryslers  were 62, odd with rams, but I saw engine. We “thought” 426 rams, but not sure. State Police, big tough guys,  leather belts on chest, you know, pulled up behind me,  canted headlights shaking up and down, rumble, I thought “wow must be 900 rpm idle”.  (they could not get them to idle right either??) while on way to NYC in 57 Dodge D500 stick convert for 1962 St Patrick’s parade, 6 guys (some Jack might have been involved that day already ) , flat tire, under all that luggage, natch. . Afraid they would smell the Jack.. While talking to me, the spokesman (“it gets 8-9 mpg, but really quick” ) they  got a radio call, jumped in and tore off semi sliding , squealing, big roar of rams , that HARD 62 727 1-2 shift BANG, little side slip with shift, . That was it for me. Someday a ram 300. Imprinted like a duck.

 

Saw 15-20 parked in a row in turnpike police lot…Picture in paper later showed Newport? Wagon, cut off the cobra against guard rail “after 150 mph chase”  (more likely 120)

 

Also remember ?Broderick Crawford? 56 D500 CHIP car running down scores of 55 chevies and fords.. loved that show. 10” B&W GE TV from 1948 was fine then; I know cuz I kept it alive…

 

A different time..: the horizontal output trans  burned up in that TV , mid 50’s, much smell and smoke, father gave it to me…. . I tried to fix in basement. Got SAMs data folder, 2.00 $ then ; innocently wrote a letter to address in it , “GE Electronics Park, Syracuse NY,” describing the problem (I was about 12 yo) ; about a week later I get a box from an ENGINEER(!) –an upgrade kit for it, with a new design HO transformer , 5-6 small parts, 100% for free! From GE !! Fixed it. Model 810…or 815..but cannot remember phone number. 6BG6 G output tube. 

 

Decided to become an engineer!!!   The impact one good guy can have…..

 

Try that today….GE? 

 

PS many , including my mom, drove off with that “parking brake” half on. Result not pretty.=  “the car is on fire” 

 

Nothing to be sorry about. Few in 2016 even know what we are talking about—except here…… I love the snippets.

 

From: Rich Barber [mailto:c300@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 2:30 PM
To: 'Ray Jones'; 'John Grady'
Cc: 'Ryan Hill'; 'Don Warnaar'; 'Noel Hastalis'; scooter465@xxxxxxx; 'swotring'; 'David Schwandt'; 'Dave Dumais'; 'yahoogroups'; 'Ma Mo'; 'Bobby Dunn'; 'Donald Cole'
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!

 

I recall that Chrysler was always careful to call this system a “Parking Brake”.  I did use my “Parking Brake” an emergency stop in a ’50 Chrysler Windsor when a brake hose popped—and got away with it at about 20 MPH.  Locked up the big 7.60 x 15’s and avoided a collision.  Parking/Emergency brakes on my other vehicles were not as effective in locking up the rear brakes, but could be applied proportionally to ease to a stop with no trauma to the drivetrain and eventually stop.

 

I also recall reading in MI or somesuch that early Chrysler 300’s were used as pursuit cars on an eastern toll road and only were outrun once—by a big Mercedes Benz.  Pennsylvania TPK or NJ TPK?  I do recall that Iowa Highway Patrol used Chryslers for a while in the late 60’s/early 70’s.  Really cool to see a huge parking lot in Des Moines full of the B&W’s—probably sold through the same Friedman Chrysler-Plymouth dealership that sold J.C. White his Platinum (“white” of course) ’55 C-300 that stoked my fires.  I have seen the Police Special brochure for ’64 Chrysler Newports that had a lot of 300 guts.  Anyone ever seen a real one?

 

Sorry about these snippets from the past.  They all tended to shape and define the mystique of the Beautiful Brutes for me.  Déjà vu, all over again.

 

C300K’ly,

Rich Barber

Brentwood, CA—heading for 87 today.

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Jones 1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 7:24 AM
To: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!

 

  

As I recall, probably from a MI Mag article, the California Highway Patrol held their road tests for new Cruisers.

As much as they wanted them for the power and speed, the Mopars failed due to the Driveshaft E-Brakes. 

Seemed like when they were jammed on they just snapped the driveshaft or ripped off their mounts, both disabling the cars.

If not for that, you  left coasters would have had some awesome CHP cars... 

Ray

 

 

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:11 AM, 'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  

Going back to 50’s when I learned to drive , and no park, (stick anyway) part of driving test and instructions prior was to always cut front wheels on a hill so it would jam to curb if it moved. Maybe  Boston thing..have a lot of hills.  My test consisted of parallel parking in a tight single car metered spot on a steep hill in Brighton , stick shift, huge stress on me, ---and failing to cut wheels, set brake  meant flunk. NEW 60 pioneer black hardtop 318 stick. Wish I had it now.

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Rich Barber' c300@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 9:52 PM
To: 'Ryan Hill'; 'Don Warnaar'; 'Noel Hastalis'; scooter465@xxxxxxx
Cc: 'swotring'; 'David Schwandt'; 'Dave Dumais'; 'yahoogroups'; 'Ma Mo'; 'Bobby Dunn'; 'Donald Cole'
Subject: [Chrysler300] Whoa, Nelly!

 

 

It seems to me that the parking brake may be a little less effective in preventing my cars from rolling backwards.  Perhaps the rear brakes are more self-energizing when rolling forward.  On my vehicles, I really stomp or yank the parking brake pedal or lever when parking on an uphill grade—and I do this before placing the selector in “Park”.  This way, I can get in, stomp the brake pedal, release the parking brake and hope to easily move the selector from “Park” to “Drive” or “Reverse”.  Our little ’86 Chrysler T&C convertible (K-car) is particularly difficult to get out of Park if the proper parking brake process has not been implemented.  I know that some cars have had to get a little tug or push to take the pressure off of the parking pawl.  And with stick shifts, fuggittaboutit unless you have a competition clutch—and don’t count on that.   

 

Way too many people have been run over by their own vehicles while the vehicle was in “Park” or at least cringed as they saw their car going out on its own to play in traffic or the neighbor’s pool.  Don’t let it happen to you.  Thanks to the members who have shared their horribles.  I’ll add that a farmer friend was run over by his own Ford 3/4T truck as it slipped out of “Park” on its own with the motor running and started backing up.  He attempted to get back in and slipped under the LF tire which cracked his pelvis.  We can and should learn from these shared horribles.

 

Much too late for a recall on our letter cars, but the problem is applicable to ALL vehicles—new and old.

 

Rich Barber

Brentwood, CA (Kind of a belt and suspenders sort of guy)

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Hill ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 3:08 PM
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Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Setting the parking brake . 64 300

 

  

Agree completely. It baffles me when I see people who should know better, not setting the parking brake before releasing the brake pedal on automatics, particularly on any sort on uneven surface. If you choose to call it an "emergency brake" and make that argument, it might not be much help in an emergency if you never use it and keep it freed up.

Ryan Hill 
 

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:45:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Setting the parking brake . 64 300

  

 

On any car, vintage or modern, I always set the parking brake unless on completely level surfaces, such as in my garage.

 

It really bothers me when I see people shove the car in park and then let it roll a bit until the pawl engages.  Puts too much stress on the pawl.

 

By using the parking brake regularly, it never corrodes in place to the point where it can't be used.  Of course, with the early 300s with no park position, it must be used.  And even then, as Dave Schwandt said, having a wheel chock handy is a good idea.

 

Don Warnaar

 

 

 

 




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Ray Jones. Y'all come on down an see us. Ya hear?





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