Re: [Chrysler300] Seat for a 1960
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Re: [Chrysler300] Seat for a 1960






Looking at both floor pans from underneath the cars both the 300G and the 61 4 door New Yorker appear to have the same floor pans. Unless the 1960 New Yorker floor pan was entirely different the power bench seat in my 61 new Yorker should fit right in the 1960 New Yorker.

Charlie
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 8:12 AM, John Grady jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
<Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

Hey we think alike , I did it that way at least once to keep stock attachments which on some cars are reinforced . Others you can redrill with big washers under . Height of seat as upholstered a big part of that , especially on C D  . Have done it so many times now I forget details of individual cars . Some had two bolt patterns too . Why I bring  it up is it might impact longitudinal position of those pans under discussion . Bummer to go all through making that and seats too close 

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On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:43 PM, Keith Boonstra <kboonstra.zeegroup@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Re that 2" further back mounting position you mention. I found I had the same legroom the problem, so a few years ago I came up with a pair of fabricated adapters that fit between the mounts and the seat frame. They move the seat back 2.25" and also give about an inch more tilt to the seat. It really transforms the comfort level. I made up several pairs for the taller guys in the club and they bought 'em up.

On a somewhat related vein, I never liked the very obtuse angle between my leg and the gas pedal, especially when it's floored - not even 50+ years ago. Matter of fact I can't even give full throttle for a quarter mile without getting a serious cramp in my calf. A light bulb appeared and I made up a gas-pedal-shaped block to stick onto my gas pedal. I tapered it from near zero at the bottom to almost an inch at the top. Presto. No more cramps, and it feels so much more comfortable under normal driving conditions too. 

Keith Boonstra
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:05 PM, John Grady jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 

While on all this , in my 300,s one we had to make that pan as we had a rust free new floor pan from  59 desoto lwb 4dr  without it . But at the same time I have found 300 seats do not go far enough back from steering  wheel for me , so have been moving seat tracks back maybe 2" . That can impact that recess location etc . Something to be aware of . 
Related , over stuffing the seat by upholstery guy will raise you up enough that the space to wheel bottom gets tight . Maybe why they did this pan . Maybe non 300 pwr seats are lower ? ( due to leather supplier of seats ?) for some reason for sure it is an afterthought . So measure height of stock seat tell upholstery guy that . There is enough leather in Gary's kits to make it too high . You find out when you get in the first time . 


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On Jul 22, 2016, at 7:37 PM, christopher thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

With a lot of things still going on over here re any free time, most times I do not get to read any/many of Club's posts, but saw this re power seats in '57 300Cs,

yes they require quite a deep rectangular recess - and it is way deeper at rear than the front - sort of like ski ramp slope - it goes from maybe only inch deep at front, to near from memory  maybe 4 inches deep at the back. And Dave is right, the brackets underneath that tie it into the outer rocker/sills, are different.

Plus there is a special black plastic moulded cover that sits in it before you lower seat - Goers may do them I think.

And of course you need power source for it - that runs/hidden under the carpet about where the binded join in the front and rear carpet pieces overlap. And final last bit - boy the whole power seat frame/assembly weighs a ton more than the non power seat. And the chrome diecast 3 way switch that sits on side of the seat is hard to find unpitted nowadays, and can bring high prices on ebay if more than one wants it - pitted ones go cheap though, but the detail on them may make replating dear/hard.


Christopher in Australia - winter over here now, but it normal sort of winter so far, gas prices hover around bit below $5 for US size gallon when on lowest part of weekly discount cycle




From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2016 2:16 AM
To: 'Ron Waters'; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Seat for a 1960
 
 

Several years back I made a batch of power seat pans and the reinforcements for them

They are for the 57-58’s

One needs to cut the spot welds from the flat OEM floor pan and the P/S pan will drop in the hole

You also need to fabricate 2 different supports from rocker panel to floor pan mounts for each side as well

I still have a few unbent blanks left.

I did this to our 300-C before the new ¼’s were installed.

Somewhere I have pictures of this install.

If any one is interested, I can scan them and send them, that is if I can figure out how to do this on windows 10

IT SUCKS!!

Dave Schwandt

Dave Schwandt

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Ron Waters' ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:50 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Seat for a 1960



In '59 they modified the design such that the special trough was not necessary. I assume '60 on up as well. They wouldn't have gone back to that ridiculous design

Must've been a pain building 57-8 cars and having to verify if the car had the special floorboard or not.

Ron

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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Seat for a 1960

Could have been the '57-59 floors that were different. I did both cars. '60 sits higher‎ but I think might have put a bit firmer padding in also.

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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:01 AM

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Cc: lindsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mick Kreszock kreszockcm@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]; Listsaver 300 Club; Ray Jones

Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Seat for a 1960

Seems to that Mike Burke had these troughs made and sold them through the club.

He may have some still available, if my old mind is semi-correct.

Ray in 110° heat index...

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Anna F Noia sa-noia@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mick

I have two 57 300's, one with a power seat and one without. There is a significant difference in the floors. The standard non-power seat floor is essentially "Flat". The power seat cars floor has troughs that lower the seat mechanisms where it bolts to the floor for support. This enables the seat to be low enough in the car to start, and then have the full range of motion that the power seat gives you. The recess in the floor as I recall is rectangular shape about an inch or so deep. It is required if you enjoy sitting low in the car, if you try and not modify the floor, and use the power seat. It's like your sitting on a "High chair" and hitting the headliner with your head. If your short, then no problem. I would recommend adding these troughs tall or short. Just to maintain proper ride height at the steering wheel. Somebody must make these or get sections of a stock parts car floor. Good luck either way.

Best Regards,
Stephen A. Noia
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On Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:58 PM, "lindsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In my experience (limited) the factory power seat cars had a lower stamping in the floor to allow for the extra height of the power seat. My F was manual and I put a power mechanism in. Works fine, just have to watch your head getting in, depending on how u have the seat positioned. I like sitting a bit higher, vs my E.

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From: Mick Kreszock kreszockcm@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler3! 00]

Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:53 PM

To: Listsaver 300 Club

Reply To: Mick Kreszock

Subject: [Chrysler300] Seat for a 1960

I have a friend who is restoring a 1960 NY 4 door. It has a manual bench front seat and he would like to make it a power front seat.

Other than wiring, what other issues would he encounter in making the switch?

Also does anyone have a power seat that would work in the New Yorker?

Mick

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