Specs came from manufacturer site - unfortunately Michelin no
longer provides a table of such info - but you can frequently find
such info at Tire Rack as well as tests and reviews.
Agree Michelin usually best option - wear, etc - though I had a
major problem with a set of Michelins aging out early a while back
- I think they were Hydroedge - rated at 70k miles but tires
showed horrible age cracking at about 4 years from date of
manufacture - still plenty of tread, but I did not trust them.
Only current Michelin in 235/75R15 is Defender LTX MS - which
should be a fine tire but expensive and blackwall only. Tire Rack
specs - 28.8 in OD, 9.3 Section width, 7.4 Tread width on 6.5 inch
wheel. (Note much wider tread may produce some clearance issues?)
And I expect any alteration such as vulcanizing a whitewall would
void manufacturer's warranty.
I have Michelins on all cars driven full time except new RAM 2500
with size Michelin does not yet make. But for Antique cars that
are not driven much, I like the Hankooks - I will never wear them
out and relatively inexpensive - can buy 2 for what you would pay
for 1 Michelin not counting cost of Diamond back whitewall and no
warranty issues. Current cost Hankook H724 P235/75R15 Narrow White
on Amazon $73 ea with free Prime shipping or $312 for set of 4
from Discount Tire on eBay with Free shipping)
I have never run the Cooper Trendsetters, but their CS4, CS5 and
light truck tires seem OK. I have heard of issues with Cokers and
American Classics having balance / roundness issues, but I always
figured they were made with older equipment / technology in small
batches unlike the Hankooks which are regular production in modern
factories.
Edward Mills
Antique Tractors 1930-1960
Antique Cars 1960-1985
On 9/24/2016 1:58 PM, John Grady wrote:
Hi Ed,
I had a hard time twice with cooper
tires; one new set in particular circa 2010 was the root cause
of an elusive 60 + vibration that was chased for a year ,
thought to be hub and drum run out , balance etc . " tires are
fine" Changed everything , eventually even spindles . (
diagnosed as "bent spindle" ? in desperation . Tires were
balanced ok , ran in the machine ok , but one day I noticed on
my own (!) the front of car moving up and down slightly while
driving very slow . Tires were out of round , (!!!!), all of
them !! but apparently can be still balanced ?? . Coopers were
/ used to be reasonable tires ( state police used them , might
have been made in mass way back) but I think now just a brand
name bought by someone in Asia . Beware . Check roundness if a
dance starts .
Just me --and I do not like the black
wall look , but I stay Michelin now , for cars I drive , except
"restored 300 " where look matters a lot . Michelins Worth every
cent . Never had a problem ; usually need no weights . Perfect
tires . Outlast other tires 2x, ( especially Goodyear best high
end.. Michelin literally go 3x Eagles )!so not such a bad deal
!! Keeping tail intact is job 1 . Diamond back was supposed to
add white walls to Michelin carcass ? Rumored ?
Did you find that physical tire size
place on net ? Even Michelin does not tell you the detailed full
physical sizes of their tires , drives me crazy . Only listed by
cars they fit ---in their own data base . Dumb .
I too hear good things about Hankook
and Nitto . Had ? Sp Kuhmo ? Side wall failure at speed ;
Firestone too . Do not need this .
Sent from my iPhone
According to the Cooper Tire internet site, there are
several sizes of the Trendsetter still made in whitewall,
including the P235/75R15. You might check the site for a
dealer near you or just have your dealer double check. Ditto
the Mastercraft AS-IV and several other Trendsetter clones
made by Cooper. Just make sure the date code is fresh as
there are not that many whitewalls sold.
Having said that, a more direct answer to your question
about the Hankook, I like them and have had no issues with
them in the P215/75R14, P225/75R15 or P235/75R15 narrow
whitewall sizes. The P235/75R15 Hankook Optimo H724 are also
extra load (XL = 108S = 2183 lb) vs most others including
the Cooper which are 105S = 2028 lb rating. At a given
pressure, load ratings are same, but you can run the XL
tires at higher pressure if needed.
The H724 are slightly taller but my recollection is the
Coopers and Mastercrafts tend to run on the small side
compared to older tire specifications. The P235/75R15 H724
shows at 28.9 in OD with 9.3 Section Width and 5.8 Tread
Width on a 6.5 inch rim. The Cooper Trendsetter SE shows
28.65 in OD with 9.1 Section Width and 5.9 Tread Width on
6.5 inch rim.
Don't know how much of a hurry you are in, but best prices
I have found are Discount Tire on eBay - they generally have
a $50 to $100 rebate and free shipping around holidays, but
even without sale, they are comparable to
Amazon.com
and cheaper than dealers. This assumes you can get mounted
locally.
The Hankooks I have gotten from both Amazon and Discount
Tire have been fresh - some made in Korea - others in
Indonesia. Best price I have gotten (after rebate) is in
$60-70 per tire range - or $80-85 without rebate.
I don't think you will go wrong either way just stay away
from the Chinese made tires.
Best, Ed
Edward Mills Antique Tractors
1930-1960 Antique Cars 1960-1985
I have a set of 10 year old
Coopers with less than 4K miles on them on my H.
Cooper no longer produces the
"Trendsetter" narrow white wall in the 235/75R/15
size.
Hankook does - anyone had
experience with them?
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Doug Warrener
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