Re: [Chrysler300] 235/75R/15 Tires
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Re: [Chrysler300] 235/75R/15 Tires





At the VERY far end of the spectrum, there are the Avon Turbosteel 70 tires in a 235/70R15 size, which are original equipment on Rolls Royces and Bentleys, and are manufactured in England.  They have an approx. 1" whitewall and are V-rated (149MPH), and have a UTQG rating of 160AA and have a maximum load of 1818 lbs each.  Any reviews I've found about them state that they are very quiet-running tires.

They are a summer-only tire and are currently $318 EACH from Tirerack.com - so these are not an economy purchase, but are rated at the speed that most any 300 is capable of. Almost all tires of any brand in a similar size are T-rated (118 MPH) which will suit the needs of most of us who value safety and a clean driving record .  .  .

John in Florida


From: "EMills_ATC millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 235/75R/15 Tires

 
Specs came from manufacturer site - unfortunately Michelin no longer provides a table of such info - but you can frequently find such info at Tire Rack as well as tests and reviews.
Agree Michelin usually best option - wear, etc - though I had a major problem with a set of Michelins aging out early a while back - I think they were Hydroedge - rated at 70k miles but tires showed horrible age cracking at about 4 years from date of manufacture - still plenty of tread, but I did not trust them.
Only current Michelin in 235/75R15 is Defender LTX MS - which should be a fine tire but expensive and blackwall only. Tire Rack specs - 28.8 in OD, 9.3 Section width, 7.4 Tread width on 6.5 inch wheel. (Note much wider tread may produce some clearance issues?) And I expect any alteration such as vulcanizing a whitewall would void manufacturer's warranty.
I have Michelins on all cars driven full time except new RAM 2500 with size Michelin does not yet make. But for Antique cars that are not driven much, I like the Hankooks - I will never wear them out and relatively inexpensive - can buy 2 for what you would pay for 1 Michelin not counting cost of Diamond back whitewall and no warranty issues. Current cost Hankook H724 P235/75R15 Narrow White on Amazon $73 ea with free Prime shipping or $312 for set of 4 from Discount Tire on eBay with Free shipping)
I have never run the Cooper Trendsetters, but their CS4, CS5 and light truck tires seem OK. I have heard of issues with Cokers and American Classics having balance / roundness issues, but I always figured they were made with older equipment / technology in small batches unlike the Hankooks which are regular production in modern factories.
Edward Mills Antique Tractors 1930-1960 Antique Cars 1960-1985
On 9/24/2016 1:58 PM, John Grady wrote:
Hi Ed,
I had a hard time twice with cooper tires; one new set in particular circa 2010 was the root cause of an elusive 60 + vibration that was chased for a year , thought to be hub and drum run out , balance etc . " tires are fine" Changed everything , eventually even spindles . ( diagnosed as "bent spindle"  ? in desperation . Tires were balanced ok , ran in the machine ok , but one day I noticed on my own (!) the front of car moving up and down slightly while driving very slow . Tires were out of round , (!!!!), all of them !!  but apparently can be still balanced ?? . Coopers were / used to be reasonable tires ( state police used them , might have been made in mass way back) but I think now just a brand name bought by someone in Asia . Beware . Check roundness if a dance starts . 
Just me --and I do not like the black wall look , but I stay Michelin now , for cars I drive , except "restored 300 " where look matters a lot . Michelins Worth every cent . Never had a problem ; usually need no weights .  Perfect tires . Outlast other tires 2x, ( especially Goodyear best high end.. Michelin literally go 3x Eagles )!so not such a bad deal !! Keeping tail intact is job 1 . Diamond back was supposed to add white walls  to Michelin carcass ? Rumored ? 
Did you find that physical tire size place on net ? Even Michelin does not tell you the detailed full physical sizes of their tires , drives me crazy . Only listed by cars they fit ---in their own data base .  Dumb . 
I too hear good things about Hankook and Nitto . Had ? Sp Kuhmo ? Side wall failure at speed ; Firestone too . Do not need this . 
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On Sep 24, 2016, at 12:35 PM, EMills_ATC millserat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

According to the Cooper Tire internet site, there are several sizes of the Trendsetter still made in whitewall, including the P235/75R15. You might check the site for a dealer near you or just have your dealer double check. Ditto the Mastercraft AS-IV and several other Trendsetter clones made by Cooper. Just make sure the date code is fresh as there are not that many whitewalls sold.
Having said that, a more direct answer to your question about the Hankook, I like them and have had no issues with them in the P215/75R14, P225/75R15 or P235/75R15 narrow whitewall sizes. The P235/75R15 Hankook Optimo H724 are also extra load (XL = 108S = 2183 lb) vs most others including the Cooper which are 105S = 2028 lb rating. At a given pressure, load ratings are same, but you can run the XL tires at higher pressure if needed.
The H724 are slightly taller but my recollection is the Coopers and Mastercrafts tend to run on the small side compared to older tire specifications. The P235/75R15 H724 shows at 28.9 in OD with 9.3 Section Width and 5.8 Tread Width on a 6.5 inch rim. The Cooper Trendsetter SE shows 28.65 in OD with 9.1 Section Width and 5.9 Tread Width on 6.5 inch rim.
Don't know how much of a hurry you are in, but best prices I have found are Discount Tire on eBay - they generally have a $50 to $100 rebate and free shipping around holidays, but even without sale, they are comparable to Amazon.com and cheaper than dealers. This assumes you can get mounted locally.
The Hankooks I have gotten from both Amazon and Discount Tire have been fresh - some made in Korea - others in Indonesia. Best price I have gotten (after rebate) is in $60-70 per tire range - or $80-85 without rebate.
I don't think you will go wrong either way just stay away from the Chinese made tires.
Best, Ed

Edward Mills Antique Tractors 1930-1960 Antique Cars 1960-1985
On 9/23/2016 9:11 PM, 2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] wrote:
 
I have a set of 10 year old Coopers with less than 4K miles on them on my H.
Cooper no longer produces the "Trendsetter" narrow white wall in the 235/75R/15 size.
Hankook does - anyone had experience with them?
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Doug Warrener







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