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Re: 452 Heads Question




Thanks Joey and Steve. If my seats are in good condition ( not sunk)will I have noticable gain with the 2.14 /1.81 valves? and are they stainless steel? This will not be necessarily a budget build- just want the most bang for the buck without going to the nth degree.- probably won't match cc every combustion chamber exactly the same, probably wont use a windage tray, probably wont use roller rockers. I will be doing head work and using a Edelbrock performer RPM manifold along with a cam that makes the most torque and power under 6000 rpm. I will have to do this in steps--probably the heads before the shortblock. Now if I know the amount of lift and my RPM limitations, Can I select my valve springs for installed height and no coil binding before actuall having the cam? Also how important is ramp speed in selecting valve springs. Please excuse all the questions in one post , but the answers really help in developing my plan. Mucho gratzy :-) Good luck on your mid terms Joey! ...............MO...sw iowa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Charette" <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: 452 Heads Question



I have gotten a couple of sets of 2.14/1.81 valves from a guy on eBay - I
believe his user name is Enginebldr or something like that. Anyway you can "buy it now" for less than $120 for a set, or sometimes bid on them and get
them for under $100 for the set.  I put them in the early small chamber
heads, (usually spending around $200 for new guides and the seat work), then blend the bowls and gasket match the ports. Had a set of these on a '67 440 with the stock pistons upside-down, a hydraulic cam, and a 750 Holley on the '67 cast intake (with a 2" 4 hole spacer) that would run 12.0's all day long
in a 3300lb 63 Savoy many moons ago.

SC

-----Original Message-----
From: Joey [mailto:jake4@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:50 PM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 452 Heads Question


Hey Steve,
They should be 2.08" intake diameter and I think 1.74" exhaust, I don't know what your combination is but if a budget build is the plan then why not get
a good three angle valve job and call it a day. Remember, VERY IMPORTANT,
make sure the installed height is correct and the springs are compatible
with the cam you choose. I have lots of horror stories there from over the
years. You would be surprised how many times we have checked new heads out
of the box from various  aftermarket manufacturers to find the installed
heights all over the place and in one case an almost comical mismatch batch
of parts. Have your local machine shop check them out before bolting them
on. I won't be around too much for awhile, midterms are here, damn summer
school is killingh me, LOL Joey
----- Original Message -----
From: "MO ( Steve Mick)" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: 452 Heads Question



Well, good news for me!  I thought the heads I had stashed away were
906's I dug them out tonight and find that they are actually 452's Now
to clean them up and magnaflux.,  These are large valve heads, but I
think there are slightly larger valves available  ( for sunken seats?)
Would it pay off in performance to use the largest valves  that will
fit?..............................MO....sw  iowa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joey" <jake4@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: 452 Heads Question



I know of at least 4 cars that have the same combination of ported
452's with MP .590 flat tappet cams and Holley street Dominator
intakes that are consistent 10.70 cars with little maintenance and I
consider that cam to be a dinosaur with todays available grinds.
Joey
----- Original Message -----
From: "SB" <polecat2@xxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:38 PM
Subject: RE: 452 Heads Question



In the early 1970's, when the Hemi was gone from NASCAR, Richard
Petty had some of his best seasons.  He used the 346 heads on his cars
then.
I agree that the 452 heads, which came later, are the best common heads.


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