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Re: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas



With the full process layed out, It seems like a lot of trouble. For the time to do 5 gallons of gas, filtering, etc, you could just boost with a few gallons of 100 octane or higher fuel.

--Tom


Herb wrote:
The guys that I know that used mothballs and swore by them had a five gallon
gas can that they did their secrete mixing in and then poured the concoction
through a paint filter in a funnel stuffed with cheese cloth directly into
their tank, and then filled it with Sunoco 260.  They also had two inline
filters on their cars.  Don't recall that they had any fuel problems, or any
that they would talk about.  If I remember correctly I read that mothballs
mixed with gasoline added an extra oxygen molecule to the mixture, so it
makes sense that it would make more HP somewhat like a crude precursor to
the nitros set-ups of today.  We also had a guy that swore the purple dye
that Martin Gas Co. put in their ethyl was his secrete performance enhancer.
  That said I also remember one guy bragging that he ran jet fuel mixed with
his gas.  The problem with that is jet fuel is just diesel fuel run through
another refining process.  And regular gasoline is two or three more steps
above that.  Now if he was bragging that he used the high octane Aviation
Gas like I ran then he might have something to brag about.  I used to keep
my mouth shut and used their bragging as leverage to spot me a couple of
cars or more just to make the race even.  (-;  Just my two C!!



          Herb
1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361

1959 Coronet 326 Poly

1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1

1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361

1970 Challenger RT 440 - 4 Sale

1999 Durango SLT 5.9

2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1

St. Louis, MO.

http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html

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From: Doug Jacobsma

Date: 1/26/2010 3:54:46 PM

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas

I haven't tried it either.  What I've been told is it will leave enough to
eventually gunk up your fuel filter.  Atleast thats what the Harley guys
have found.

Jake

'63 Sport Fury 'vert

'04 Harley FXDWG

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To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx

From: tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:59:00 -0700

What kind of residue does it leave. Would it buildup in your tank and

fuel lines?

Not that I plan on trying it, but am curious about the adverse effect to

car's. Seems pretty toxic to people.

--Tom

Ollie wrote:

Very Interesting,

Thanks

Ollie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Charette"

To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:22 AM

Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas

Jake,

Excellent information, thanks!

SC

-----Original Message-----

From: Doug Jacobsma [mailto:big_jake57@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:56 AM

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas

The subject of moth balls in gas has come up on a Harley board I

frequent,

as we are always looking for better gas with those too. Seems there is a

chemical ingredient in moth balls that will enhance octane some, it was

indeed used by old time racers, but those who have tried it have found it

leaves a bit of residue behind, plus it has some other unwanted

characteristics.

I've had pretty good luck with Lucas additive and a couple others that

list

jet fuel as the carrier. Says it's good as an upper lube also.

Anyway, here's what we came up with as far as moth balls go:

JUST SO YA KNOW !

There are two different types of moth balls - The older type is

composted of

Naphthalene and the newer type is composted of Paradichlorobenzene.

Both types sublimate from a solid straight to a a gas- the gas is

toxic to

moths.

The main threat is breathing the fumes, also may have camphor added as a

insect repellent. They also used to clean the pipes on wood burning

stoves.

Dangers are:

Inhaling concentrated fumes

ingesting or eating them - HIGHLY TOXIC!

Solvent abuse by kids

Carcinogen

Forms a bond with soil that will kill beneficial soil insects.

It has been proven plausible that adding moth balls to a fuel tank will

improve HP.

Listed by the EPA and other Government sources as a pesticide

7.5 million lbs. used as pest control yearly

369 million lbs. used by the Dept. of Defense yearly

1.84 billion lbs. used by US jet market yearly

Toxic level 2 - for inhaling

Toxic level 3 - for contact to skin and eyes

Inhalation causes dizziness - vomiting - nausea - headaches -

shortness of

breath - coughing - burning eyes

Naphthalene can also kill red blood cells causing hemolytic anemia and is

also linked to nasal cancer.

Moth

crystals are made from Paradichlorobenzene (PDB) which is more toxic than

Naphthalene. Prolonged exposure on plastics may melt them.

PDB is a suspected carcinogen causing cancer.

Repeated inhalation can be fatal - especially for children,elderly

people,pets, and indirectly for fetuses.

TO SUM IT UP Paradichlorobenzene:

Possible effects: vapor irritates skin,eyes and respiratory tract,large

doses can cause injury to liver,suspected carcinogen.

Naphthalene

damages liver,prolonged vapor exposure has led to cataract formation.

Think I'll stick to the stuff in a bottle!

Jake

'63 Sport Fury 'vert

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx

From: bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild status and how much compression we can run on

pump gas w

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:17:39 -0800

I remember when I was a kid that my dad used to add moth balls to his

gasoline for his circle track racer in the 40's and 50's.

I don't know what the ratio was but he won a lot of races.

Later

Bill Harrison

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