RE: Hard starting

["Dennis C." <dennis.2914@xxxxxxxxx>]

Maybe someone else will comment also but here is my experience:

I installed a good electric pump on my 63 SF.  I installed it as close 
to the fuel tank as possible and put it on a switch.  It worked great 
for starting, it primed the carb and it started instantly.

PROBLEM:
If the electric pump is not left on the mechanical pump will need to 
draw fuel through the electric pump and filter (I installed a filter 
before the electric pump per instructions that came with the pump).

With a full fuel tank on a normal day this worked will until I dropped 
down to about 1/3 tank of fuel then it would start vapor locking until I 
turned the electric pump back on.  On a hot day (Yuma) I was not able to 
go down to 1/2 tank before I started having trouble.

Maybe there are better ways of installing the pump that works better 
than what I did.

I have removed the mechanical pump and I am only using the electric pump 
and love it.

I have it wired in correctly to the oil pressure switch for safety with 
an oil pressure switch designed for this purpose and I still have it on 
a switch that gives me manual on/off.

I am looking for a electric fuel pump for my 64 but it is a stock car 
with stock exhaust and a poly.  I want to find a pump that makes the 
least noise.

Dennis C.


Jim Altemose wrote:
> 
> Tried that.  Pumping 3 times versus 30 before cranking makes zero
> difference.  It still takes about 20 seconds of cranking, which is why
> I'm buying into the evaporation theory.  Once running, it'll start
> instantly like a champ the rest of the day.  The next day, pretty
> easy.  Two days, a little harder, and so on.  It also seems like
> outside temp makes no difference.  Still starts hard when it's 95
> degrees out if it's been sitting.
> 
> Can an electric be used in conjunction with mechanical?  Maybe flip on
> the electric just to prime it, then turn it off and run off the
> mechanical?
> 
> - Jim
> Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
> '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
> '63 Polara 500 (383)
> '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
> '71 Bronco
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:34 AM, doug daniel <dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote=
> :
> > pump the pedal several times after a long time sitting
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: RE: Hard starting
> >> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 10:14 PM
> >>
> >> I had that issue and the electric fuel pump cured it for
> >> me.
> >>
> >> Rich Knsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
> >> 
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> Jim Altemose wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My 63 Polara 500, 383, 4 barrel Carter AFB, has
> >> trouble starting when
> >> > it sits for several days.=C2=A0 It always goes
> >> eventually but takes 20 or
> >> > 30 seconds of cranking.=C2=A0 A little research (see
> >> link below) suggests
> >> > that modern gas evaporates quickly and the carburetor
> >> bowl evaporates
> >> > through the bowl vent.=C2=A0 They suggest priming the
> >> bowl through the vent
> >> > with an eye dropper.=C2=A0 Does this make sense?
> >> Is there any kind of gas
> >> > additive that would help prevent evaporation?
> >> >
> >> > http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Troubleshooting.htm
> >> >
> >> > As always, thanks.
> >> >
> >> > - Jim
> >> > Jim Altemose, Long Island, NY
> >> > '63 Polara 500 (Max Wedge)
> >> > '63 Polara 500 (383)
> >> > '65 Belvedere I (Street Wedge)
> >> > '71 Bronco
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> >>
> >>
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1996 Dodge Ram 3500 Van Conversion
1964 Plymouth Belvedere 318 Auto
1963 Plymouth Sport Fury 383 4-speed
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