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Re: zddp



The 'sludge' you are referring to and the ZDDP level in the oil are 2 different topics. If you read the other posts you will no that neither have it in there.
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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: zddp

concerning Pennzoil,I've had 3 diff mechanics{all with 30+years of experience} tell me that it is fine AS LONG AS your doing alot of hiway driving BUT with just driving around town you will get nothing but alot of sludge buildup..All of the engines I've opened up that use Pennzoil and in town driving have been full of CRAP ie. sludge...I use nothing but Castrol in my 96 INDY Ram &99 Durango,both have over 100,000+ miles with No oil usage and both run great.Still have to watch my right foot work with the INDY{factory headers,perf computer,K&N air filter,390gears and a hell of alotta torque}also will still cook ythe tires when asked too   loland with the Durango being a 4 wheeldrive even it will cook the rear tires with a heavy right foot  lol   I've had very good luck with Castrol and use it in all my cars.I know all of these are ALOT newer than our other toys but I would use it in anything i have. JMO
 
Jim 


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From: a440plus6 <a440plus6@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 11:31 am
Subject: Re: zddp

"From what I see castrol did it right with that 20-50 oil. A guy I work with
swore by pennzoil...well he removed his oil pan today in his 98 Durango
cause of a blown motor to find nothing but sludge...and that's with 3k oil
changes!!!!
 "

Like discussed in this thread earlier.....Pennzoil and Quaker State are both Paraffin based oils......and someone here said it right when they said....."You might as well just pour candle wax in your engine" LOL

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Richard Kinsley <leroar.kinsley058@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I found a couple zddp additive products at O'Reilly's. The one I choose is Rislone Engine Oil Supplement with Zinc Treatment. Not too expensive. I also use the Valvoline VR-1 20-50 racing oil. I did originally use Shell Rotella but changed when they dropped the ZDDP. 

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I haven’t seen any quality additives with ZDDP in them at the local parts chain stores; Lucas might have a product that will help but your best bet is to find/order the product with a proper amount of ZDDP...
You aren’t going to ruin your engine with any of the mult-vis oils you have listed...not an issue for procrastination and you will know when you try one.  Generally, a high mileage engine will require a thicker/heavier oil because of the increased clearances due to wear.
 
Gary P.
 
From: jacob fox
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: zddp
 
also...what are your thoughts on going with a 20-50- wieght over a 30 or 10-30 weight. i know ive ran this topic into the ground.....i just dont know what to do lol theres so many conflicting opinions...i dont know whats best for the motor.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:26 PM, jacob fox <imfast101@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
before i hit the road this weekend....are there any good additives i can find at Oriellys, Auto Zone, Advance, or NAPA? i dont have time to order any now....but i dont wanna drive all that way without some protection...and I DONT wanna put just anything in there..theres so must junk out there nowadays.
 
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Jacob,

Correction; the Syntech 20-50 IS a full synthetic...I guess the e-mail went out before I could delete and re-write.

Anyhow, a full synthetic usually finds all the small/micro gaps in our gaskets...but that is with zero to 5W oils; this being a 20-50W should not pose a real problem but with your mileage you may want to run the ZDDP additives.  Do a cost analysis for the miles you drive and if they are low miles you may want to continue using your current oil with the ZDDP additives on the market and save the full synthetic oil for after a rebuild.

Gary P.

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Pavlovich
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:06 PM

To: 1962to1965mopars@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: zddp

Jacob,

Syntech is not a full synthetic but a blend; not a problem with your engine.
Gary

-----Original Message----- From: Jacob Fox
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:18 PM
To: 1962to1965mopars@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: zddp

From what I see castrol did it right with that 20-50 oil. A guy I work with
swore by pennzoil...well he removed his oil pan today in his 98 Durango
cause of a blown motor to find nothing but sludge...and that's with 3k oil
changes!!!! Def never using that stuff. I've always used castrol...I wanna
find a oil in the stores I just hate ordering stuff...shipping prices are
ridiculous and it takes forever. Ive just always been so worried about
switching to 20-50 especially a synthetic. It's never below freezing down
here...maybe one day in January MAYBE. idk...if someone wants to give an
honest opinion let me know...I wanna do what's best for that ol' gal! I'm
going on a roadtrip this weekend to see how she does. Only driving an HR
away but I wanna make sure I'm not gonna run into any problems..

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Doug J <63sprtfury@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Time for me to change oil in the '63 too.  Can't bring myself to run
castrol.  I know we've beaten this subject to death, but one more
time, is there an oil out there with the right additives? Or,
what/where do we find the additive.  Product name?
Thanx



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