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Ray
Posted 2014-04-08 12:31 PM (#435073 - in reply to #434857)
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Ray - 2014-04-06 7:08 PM

Replaced all heater hoses. After looking for images that show the correct routing, I kept the same routing that I had. Still not sure if it is correct, because there appeared to be at least two variations in the images I found.

Can someone supply a photo of the correct routing - 1961 361. I am guessing that all FL big blocks have the same routing.

Thanks

This is the correct routing for any B Block. When I first got the car the hose connections at the front of the engine were reverse to this and I wasn't getting any heat out of the heater. I checked a number of engine photos I have of different cars and most of them were routed like this so I reversed the connections at the front of the engine, and presto - lots of heat. Interesting thing is that on my ex-300 they were hooked up the other way and it still had heat. However as I said, I have seen lots of them hooked up reverse to this at the front on photographs I have.

 

Ian,

Thanks for responding. The images are great.

Ray

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Posted 2014-04-13 4:47 PM (#435868 - in reply to #165059)
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Got a local shop to fab up the frame brackets (thanks for the measurements 60dart) and installed the sway bar. You can feel an improvement in transient response to turning the wheel and flatter cornering. It's still no sports car but I never expected it would be.



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d500neil
Posted 2014-04-13 6:13 PM (#435886 - in reply to #165059)
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The benefit of a front sway bar is that handling is appreciably improved without increasing driving-response harshness, such
as would be produced by increasing the (larger torsion bar-) spring rates.

The 57 Custom Royals got sway bars, instead of the larger, harsher riding, torsion bars that were installed on the Coronets,
Royals, and also on the Furys.


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Posted 2014-04-14 10:20 AM (#435971 - in reply to #165059)
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Yesterday I pulled the drums off of my 56 Royal Lancer since I am rebuilding the master cylinder.

Left front looks good.


Left rear not so good


Leaking axle grease


Right rear wheel cylinder leaking.


Right front good to go.


So I guess I need to do inner and outer axle seals on that left side axle. Do I need to pull the axle shaft out of there for that? If I do I am guessing I will need a slide hammer?
I will also probably need to completely remove the brakes on that side.
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wizard
Posted 2014-04-14 10:52 AM (#435974 - in reply to #165059)
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I'd say that you remove all the brake parts and the shield - mount the rear drum but do not tighten the nut, just spin it on, full thread - now use your drum like puller - more steady pulls and eventually careful blows outwards with the drum should do it.
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Posted 2014-04-14 4:28 PM (#436034 - in reply to #165059)
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Sagging door wont open? Maybe it's the #3 body mount. I got tired of showing up somewhere, looking all cool in my 57, and having to use my shoulder to open my door. But the #3 body mount was a mess. Frame off resto? Remove all the glass? No, I just diced in a patch from a parts car, carefully jacked the side of the car up, slid in a body puck, and voila! My car is as solid as ever and the door opens and closes like a dream.



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soiouz
Posted 2014-04-15 8:09 PM (#436276 - in reply to #165059)
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Painted a couple of small parts. Here's a before and after of the seat hinge covers and the sun visors.



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imopar380
Posted 2014-04-15 9:02 PM (#436290 - in reply to #436276)
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soiouz - 2014-04-15 5:09 PM

Painted a couple of small parts. Here's a before and after of the seat hinge covers and the sun visors.


Nice detailing David. When my Saratoga arrived here, after a "cosmetic" restoration from the seller, I found so many details that were left unattended to - that were relatively easy jobs to do and make everything much more presentable.
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soiouz
Posted 2014-04-18 8:28 AM (#436674 - in reply to #165059)
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Got my seats back from the upholsterer, all done with SMS material, and duplicating the correct OEM seat pattern for my car. It's not 100% perfect, but I think it's pretty da*n close and I'm very happy with the guy's job. (Compare below with an image from the canadian brochure).

So I couldn't help myself and did a mock-up of what it'll look like when done, with the back seat inside the car.




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Posted 2014-04-18 8:29 AM (#436675 - in reply to #436674)
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soiouz - 2014-04-18 8:28 AM

Got my seats back from the upholsterer, all done with SMS material, and duplicating the correct OEM seat pattern for my car. It's not 100% perfect, but I think it's pretty da*n close and I'm very happy with the guy's job. (Compare below with an image from the canadian brochure.

So I couldn't help myself and did a mock-up of what it'll look like with the back seat.



Nice! They look great!
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soiouz
Posted 2014-04-19 10:07 AM (#436828 - in reply to #436675)
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soiouz - 2014-04-18 8:28 AM

Got my seats back from the upholsterer, all done with SMS material, and duplicating the correct OEM seat pattern for my car. It's not 100% perfect, but I think it's pretty da*n close and I'm very happy with the guy's job. (Compare below with an image from the canadian brochure.

So I couldn't help myself and did a mock-up of what it'll look like with the back seat.



Nice! They look great!



Thanks a lot!
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wizard
Posted 2014-04-19 11:04 AM (#436834 - in reply to #165059)
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That's a fantastic interior - looks like a good craftsman's work!
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Posted 2014-04-19 1:02 PM (#436845 - in reply to #165059)
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I like that! is this the lavender car?
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Posted 2014-04-19 1:06 PM (#436846 - in reply to #165059)
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Made a very important upgrade to the Plymouth today, better than the rebuilt front end, the disc brake conversion, or the Red Ram Hemi. I installed an NOS cigarette lighter package in the dash, or rather replace the non original one with the correct one, now I won't get dinged for that at Pebble Beach.
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soiouz
Posted 2014-04-19 1:08 PM (#436847 - in reply to #436845)
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fenix - 2014-04-19 1:02 PM

I like that! is this the lavender car?


No, it's my own dodge Regent, canadian equivalent to the plymouth savoy.






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Posted 2014-04-19 5:41 PM (#436873 - in reply to #165059)
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it's your car, but pruple interior?
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soiouz
Posted 2014-04-19 5:51 PM (#436874 - in reply to #436873)
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fenix - 2014-04-19 5:41 PM

it's your car, but pruple interior?


I have no idea what you are talking about, I'm sorry... The interior is black and white and the car is green and white. Maybe it's the poor cellphone pics i took that leads you to believe there's purple in the cloth.. But it really is black (with gold and grey thread) and white vinyl.
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Posted 2014-04-19 5:54 PM (#436876 - in reply to #165059)
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Okay, that explains it, maybe the pics and my monitor, hence the lavender question. Looks like dark purple on my screen, but it looks like great work.
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d500neil
Posted 2014-04-19 10:13 PM (#436908 - in reply to #165059)
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Wow; what's not OEM correct about your seats?

Is it the edging of the seat beading at the top of the front seat?
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Posted 2014-04-19 10:15 PM (#436909 - in reply to #165059)
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Mine is in the garage awaiting restoration.
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soiouz
Posted 2014-04-19 10:23 PM (#436910 - in reply to #436908)
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d500neil - 2014-04-19 10:13 PM

Wow; what's not OEM correct about your seats?

Is it the edging of the seat beading at the top of the front seat?


No, i think that´s pretty close. It really is just some details, like the vinyl should be sewn over the cloth, but he did the opposite, so the edges where vinyl and cloth are sewn together are a bit different. The back of the front seat is a bit different too (see the pics below to compare). The rear armrests have a little more white than OEM too.

But those are all details and over all, I'm super happy with what he did, and I think it is a great job.

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Posted 2014-04-20 9:29 AM (#436959 - in reply to #165059)
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Those seats look really good, soiouz!

They are going to look great in your car, and should set off that nice green paint really well.

You're car is going to look even more awesome!


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Posted 2014-04-20 10:35 AM (#436969 - in reply to #165059)
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Nice interior soiouz glad to see somebody got use out of those seat hinge covers. Your car looks great!
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Posted 2014-04-20 7:49 PM (#437023 - in reply to #165059)
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Well I know this is an old thread, but it is Spring so I assume everyone will be busy dusting off their projects, & getting out on the road. I spent an hour taping up some bare wires on the generator. Along with that I managed to over tighten the nut on the generator post, so found it necessary to use a couple of washers for a spacer so that the wire would be tight. I did source a different painter, as my original choice was dragging his feet on the planed job. It will cost more money but this guy has a proper shop & the car will remain inside until completed. Hopefully I can start taking chrome off this week. -Garry
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Posted 2014-05-03 6:29 PM (#439139 - in reply to #437023)
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Ordered a new York A/C compressor from Air Manuf. Corp in Texas, it arrived last week. I bead-blasted off the poor quality black paint today, repainted it Dull Aluminum and clear coated it, getting ready to install soon and then get the system running again. The new unit is identical in size and footprint to the old one but just a little different looking and is a direct replacement for the old one.

Also will be cleaning up and painting the pulley and clutch, and the fittings on the ends of the hoses. One hose is relatively new, installed prior to me buying the car.

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Posted 2014-05-04 7:58 PM (#439308 - in reply to #165059)
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No pics but Last week at the Cars and Coffee meet on Sunday morning the power steering hose went on our 61 Newport 2 door Hard top. NAPA doesnt list a pressure hose for the 61 but it lists one for the 62. I had them order it up figuring they are supposed to be the same car except for the fins. Turns out it was a perfect fit. So they list one for the 62 that will fit the 61 but they dont list a part for the 61. Confusing yes, but now you know.
So in a matter of just a few minutes after getting the parts home it was up and running like a champ.

We have been trying to drive it as often as possible. On our way home from a show at a local mall the speedo started making an awful noise in the dash. After taking it out, cleaning it, greasing it and reinstalling it, it is working great.

That is "what we did to our car" lately.

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Posted 2014-05-05 12:26 PM (#439398 - in reply to #165059)
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It's a holiday weekend here, so starting to bring together some of the work I've done over the winter. Today, since the tank is out, I got under the back end and painted the underside of the trunk floor pans with Rust Encapsulator. They're new, but I stupidly didn't realise that they'd never been painted with anything, so there was some surface rust. I had the tank repaired recently, and that came back last week. I repaired my fuel tank sender so it actually works now, so just waiting for a new fuel sock and it can go back together.

I've also started removing the dash trim and controls to ready that for paint, and have drawn up a mask for the gold dots on the trim. Some NOS and repro parts on the way too - a new glovebox, a piece of dash trim and a heater valve since a previous owner had removed it and bolted a plate over the hole! No wonder it's always been warm in there.

My daughter helped me clean off my seats, which I had made with plastic covers so a brush and a little soapy water brought off the dust and grime which had settled over the time she's been sitting there.

Next challenge will be to remove the pushbutton pod to paint it, then paint the dash. Also figuring out how to tidy up the gauge faces.
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Posted 2014-05-11 10:43 AM (#440285 - in reply to #165059)
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Happy Mothers' Day.

Today we are gonna take Mom, (Who is 91 years old), cruising along the Coast, in the "Emerald Queen", (The 1958 Chrysler New Yorker Convertible), that I bought from my friend Aivar.

Aivar will do the "Chaueffering", so Mom and I can sit in the back seat and enjoy the drive and the Scenery.

I will bring my video camera and still camera and take pictures.

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Posted 2014-05-12 12:46 AM (#440397 - in reply to #165059)
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I almost finished stripping any usable parts from a '57 Windsor (Canuck Saratoga) 4 door sedan today. Just need to remove the rear bumper, and a couple more pieces of stainless...and it's off to the scrap yard with the rusting hulk!
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soiouz
Posted 2014-05-17 9:09 PM (#441292 - in reply to #165059)
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Today I installed the trunk side panels that I received from Gary Goers. I'm really happy with the results!





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Posted 2014-05-18 3:54 PM (#441361 - in reply to #441292)
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soiouz - 2014-05-17 9:09 PM

Today I installed the trunk side panels that I received from Gary Goers. I'm really happy with the results!



Super nice. I will do same at my Windsor.
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Posted 2014-05-18 4:46 PM (#441367 - in reply to #165059)
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Those panels look good, David. I was lucky to have one side of my old panels still in the car when I got it, so I used it to trace new ones onto cardboard I bought at a local upholstery shop, and cut the myself.
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Posted 2014-05-18 7:18 PM (#441391 - in reply to #165059)
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Here's some interesting photos, that probably should (and can-) be put on another thread, but for anyone
reading this thread;

The first photo shows the "First Generation" 1957-style Dodge/Firesweep tan-colored liners.

Gary Goers, years ago, sent me this style, but in gray.

(This is actually the second set of liners that I've bought from Gary; the first set came in the correct 'tan' color).

It is very difficult to install the riveted-section around-behind the gas filler tube, but it can be done.

Note how Gary's liners' notches are/were cut too high, so that the trunk hinge cuts into them, tearing them.

This can be fixed by cutting their notches lower.

Be very careful the first time that you close the trunk after you have installed the First Gen liners....put somebody
inside the trunk with a flashlight....so that any interference/contact with the notches can be confirmed and the notches
be cut-lower, so as to eliminate any contact-tearing of the liners, such as occurred in my example.

The last three photos show the Second Generation/1958-style liners, which are an improved design, with a 1-
piece wrap-around section.




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Posted 2014-05-18 8:07 PM (#441397 - in reply to #165059)
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And, here's an interesting trunk detail on a 1958 (Dodge-built) DeSoto Firesweep, that is presently
featured over on our Craigslist Board.

It has the First Generation tan-colored trunk liners on it, and, it even has "OEM" torn hinge-notch(es) on it,
as above discussed.

So, at least some 1958 DOD/Soto cars still had the First Gen trunk liners on them.

(Also: if you look closely in the top photo, that car, too, may have a slightly torn liner-notch).




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Posted 2014-05-18 9:02 PM (#441406 - in reply to #441397)
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Changed the exterior door handle on my black 2dr Imperial today. I forgot about sedan handles being different coupes (sedans have a shorter activating lever) but made it fit anyway.

This is a crispy California car. Neil, what do you think about the wear on this brake pedal??



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Posted 2014-05-19 1:48 AM (#441430 - in reply to #165059)
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A little difficult to say, due to its overall deterioration, but there does not appear to be much wear on its surface material.

The interior certainly got very hot, though.

Actually, if both sides are mirror images, then, yeah, it looks like the right-edge area was worn down, but, at least,
not right-through the rubber, down to the underlying base metal.

The bottom-left corner may be worn down to the 'metal', though----left foot braker?













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Posted 2014-05-19 2:11 AM (#441434 - in reply to #165059)
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I was being rhetorical because of it's deterioration. It was intended to show how baked the interior is.
actual mileage is over 100K
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Posted 2014-05-19 2:14 AM (#441435 - in reply to #165059)
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...I figured that, but wanted to try to give a straight answer.


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Posted 2014-05-19 5:37 AM (#441443 - in reply to #165059)
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I fitted in a Goers trunk carpet kit to my 60 Imp. Looks the goods. The original carpet has a silver colour, along with the sewn on trim, where-as Gary's kit is a light grey. Still looks and fits good. I re-used the original card wheel well and side panels, they are a bit ratty but serviceable. The (Goers supplied) panels that fit on the rear most part of the trunk are much bigger and a different shape than the originals, but fitted perfect and did not need fixing in. Just wedged them in. The originals were fixed in with those little wire staples.

Not embarrassed to open the boot now!

Steve.
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wizard
Posted 2014-05-19 7:53 AM (#441455 - in reply to #165059)
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Serviced the cooling system, rinsed the engine, radiator and heater core. Filled up with glycol and water 50/50 - now the cooling system should be protected from corrosion and freezing for another 2-3 years.
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imfinlay
Posted 2014-05-19 8:01 AM (#441457 - in reply to #165059)
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Got a bit done over the weekend since we had nice weather here in London. I finally figured out how to remove the pushbutton pod, so that's stripped and primed. Removed the last of the lower dash trim and started a bit of polishing on that and one of the sill step plates to see how that would come up. I also removed and bagged the screws I'd removed! Just waiting for my new fuel sock and the tank can go back, new filler tube O-rings, and a repro glove box. John from Big M has some parts I need to finish fixing the heater.

Jobs for next weekend will be to remove the steering wheel and column jacket to be painted, and maybe start prepping the dash for paint. I plan to mask it up and do it in the car since there's no interior installed except the front seat which I can cover.
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soiouz
Posted 2014-05-19 8:31 AM (#441461 - in reply to #441457)
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imfinlay - 2014-05-19 8:01 AM

Got a bit done over the weekend since we had nice weather here in London. I finally figured out how to remove the pushbutton pod, so that's stripped and primed. Removed the last of the lower dash trim and started a bit of polishing on that and one of the sill step plates to see how that would come up. I also removed and bagged the screws I'd removed! Just waiting for my new fuel sock and the tank can go back, new filler tube O-rings, and a repro glove box. John from Big M has some parts I need to finish fixing the heater.

Jobs for next weekend will be to remove the steering wheel and column jacket to be painted, and maybe start prepping the dash for paint. I plan to mask it up and do it in the car since there's no interior installed except the front seat which I can cover.


I'd be interested to know how you did manage to remove the pushbutton pod without removing the whole dash... That's my next project. Thanks!
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imfinlay
Posted 2014-05-19 9:34 AM (#441467 - in reply to #165059)
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I'll take some pictures and start a new thread so we don't go too far off topic!

Here: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=52756&...

Edited by imfinlay 2014-05-19 9:49 AM
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soiouz
Posted 2014-05-20 7:07 AM (#441573 - in reply to #165059)
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Made a short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcXzGu49nJ0
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FIN ME
Posted 2014-05-20 4:37 PM (#441619 - in reply to #165059)
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Your car looks even nicer in motion, soiouz!

Really nice sound accelerating, and also as you "whooshed" by the camera.

Really awesome car!


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Posted 2014-05-20 9:33 PM (#441662 - in reply to #165059)
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NICE sounding mufflers David!

That 1958 design looks perfect.


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soiouz
Posted 2014-05-20 9:39 PM (#441664 - in reply to #441662)
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d500neil - 2014-05-20 9:33 PM

NICE sounding mufflers David!

That 1958 design looks perfect.




Thanks Neil!


As you can also hear in the video, my dog Laika likes them too!
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imopar380
Posted 2014-05-28 11:48 PM (#442781 - in reply to #441619)
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I installed my new A/C compressor tonight. The clutch on my original compressor had a slightly different mount, so I had to order a new clutch as well.
So as of tonight it is installed, but I have to pick up a shorter belt as the new clutch is 6" vs 7.25" diameter on the old one.
The belt tensioner is also adjusted to the max so no way I can use the old belt. Then it'll be time to evacuate the system and charge it up.


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FIN ME
Posted 2014-05-29 7:14 AM (#442808 - in reply to #165059)
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Darn nice engine, Ian!

How do you keep I so clean!?

Keep cool, this summer!



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60 Imp
Posted 2014-05-29 8:25 AM (#442817 - in reply to #165059)
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Yep, very nice engine bay, even got the filter snorkel pointing right

Sticker is on the wrong side though!.

Steve.
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