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Location: bishop, ca | It is a Belvedere convertible that has the Fury equipment package added onto it.
The Fury pieces, for ordering-scheduling purposes, were apparently considered as being an "option package", even though the factory literature, describing the Fury "L" group, merely lists the pieces which were unique ("standard") to the Fury models.
This car proves the adage of "never-say-never", and the ability of having sufficient power-and-influence-and money, back then, to have almost anything that you wanted to be built into a car.
Anyone (dealership/body-shop), back then, and today, could add on any parts or trim pieces that they wanted
to a car, after it was built, but, this car was converted in-house.
However, the very-few 1957 D501 2-door hardtops that were built (the other D501 models were convertibles and 2-door sedans) were also built in house, but they were formally coded and described as being D501's; those cars were converted into 501's from standard Coronet models that were taken off of the assembly lines for the specific D501 parts/equipment conversions.
This car was built and coded as being a Belvie, with the Fury options added onto it.
The D501 hardtops left the factory as being 501's.
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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Dukeboy....
Looks like excellent documentation, I would think, of a very rare car. It seems to me this should answer most questions about its existence in 1958. The noted 2nd 58 Fury convertible that Ricky Nelson was supposed to have owned was not the same Candied Blue hardtop that I saw him with in late 1958.... apparently, he may have had more than one 58 Fury.
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Location: Southwest VA | Did you notice that "Belvedere" was misspelled on the original Chrysler line sheet? So actually, this was an even rarer factory "Belevedere".. :-)
It's cool to see original documentation for one of these "phantom" cars. Like you said "never say never". In the late 80's I spoke to a man who owned a Plymouth-Dodge dealership in Winston-Salem NC back in the 60's. He told me that during the late 60's one of the heirs to the RJ Reynold's fortune came in and ordered a 426 Hemi D-100 pickup. He was told that a D-100 with a Hemi was not available from the factory, but they would see what they could do. The dealership sent the order into Chrysler and about six weeks later, a white D-100 showed up with a 426 Hemi installed. The fender tag on the truck showed that it was originally built with a 383, but someone at the factory had pulled it out and shoehorned in the 426. (I would guess that it helps to be a multi-millionaire when you place one of these special orders!) The dealership owner told me he never saw the truck again after the new owner drove it off the lot.
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Location: Vancouver, BC | This one is a Belvedere convertible, and not a Fury.
The "series number" he refers to, LP2, means it is a 1958 Plymouth V8. All 1958 Plymouth V8 models were LP2, from a Savoy 2-door sedan to a Fury 2-door hardtop. "L" series just means the car is a 1958 model.
A Belvedere V8 convertible was model was 255 while a Fury hardtop was 292. Thus the Fury was a full fledged model and not an option or a package. The "1958 "L" Series Fury Specifications" lists the standard equipment on the Fury 2-door hardtop. That is not sales code 582. Need a complete list of 1958 Plymouth option codes, by the looks of it, to determine just what 582 was.
The owner speaks of the options added to the car, front and rear outer buffer guards, "Sport Tone" finish, but those items are listed as part of the Fury standard equipment and if the list is option 582, those items would have been included. His talk of optional equipment and the prices also does not jive with the options as delivered from the factory.
And he talks of the car being approved for production and it was to be built on the "special assembly line" in Detroit (Lynch Road). Unfortunately for him, the car's serial number starts with LP2E, which translates as a 1958 Plymouth V8 built at Evansville, Indiana, and not some "special assembly line" in Detroit.
Also a strange, and expensive at $4,028, car for a 1950's nurse to order. .
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Location: Big pimpin' | If the car was ordered as a "Fury Convert", BUILT as a Fury Convert., it IS A FURY convert in My opinion....It is as close as one could get to cutting the top off a Fury in 1958 for a convertible.
Yes, I too know of a certain 1972, 440 SIX PACK, car that supposedly shouldn't have left the factory..ALL FACTORY special order cars are rare IMO...These were the "Shouldn't/didn't make" models that were evidently made... |
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Location: Kansas City, Kansas | Chrycoman - 2011-08-18 1:01 AM
And he talks of the car being approved for production and it was to be built on the "special assembly line" in Detroit (Lynch Road). Unfortunately for him, the car's serial number starts with LP2E, which translates as a 1958 Plymouth V8 built at Evansville, Indiana, and not some "special assembly line" in Detroit.
Also a strange, and expensive at $4,028, car for a 1950's nurse to order. .
I am often amazed at what kind of crazy story an owner of a car can tell….even the original owner. I am not saying they make it up. They truly believe it. Maybe they made some assumptions or maybe the new car salesman made some assumptions during the transaction that now become “fact” in the story.
I have been researching coach-built convertibles for years now. (You know, those ‘70s-‘80s era non-factory convertibles that you could have the new-car dealer send out for conversion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coach_convertible ). Info on these cars is sketchy at best and when I find one, I contact the car’s owner to learn more about the conversion. More often than not, they thought it was a regular factory-built convertible. They have no idea it was one of just a few built and that it was done aftermarket.
If they do know it was “not factory”, they often think it is a “factory prototype”. They really think the car was converted by or for the manufacturer for in-house testing…. then they bought it from the dealer…..really? I ask them to check the driver side door opening to find a label by the coach builder stating that the car meets federal safety standards. Most cars still have that label and every time they get in or out of the car, they slip past that label… that they never noticed.
It is very rare for me to find an owner of one of these cars that really knows the story behind the conversion. I can understand some confusion from a third or fourth owner of a car that is remembering a tale fabricated from some previous owner. But many times I am talking with the ORIGINAL owner of the coach built car and their story is so way off, yet they have no proof of what they say. In fact, they often have old paperwork or the door label that proves them wrong. They are usually glad to get the story straight, but it is often less glamorous.
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Location: Connecticut | The car in question: A Belvedere convertible with optional 350 Golden Commando engine, special suspension, 3.31 rear, etc. Built in Evansville, IN, not Detroit. I'll bet that the car had the standard Belvedere convert interior. Could the car have had gold sportone ? Possibly. Toward the end of the 58 model year, Plymouth offered this as a dress-up package, even for four door sedans. I've seen factory documentation of this. Car has a high serial number. Probably built early summer, 1958. IMHO, there is a lot of folklore mixed in with some factual information in Paul Rice's letter. Why doesn't this guy order a build sheet from Chrysler, if he is convinced that he has a rare car ? That would lay this matter to rest.
Ricky Nelson's car: same deal. Note the phrase 'Fury Optioned convertible'. A Belvedere with high performance option package. Ron
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Location: Parts Unknown | I think you guys are both talking the same game, but refusing to see the other side
of it. Plymouth never offered a Fury convertible. This was as close as one could get ..
.. having a Belvedere built AT the factory to Fury specs (or very close). Is it a bonafide
Fury ? No. Is it a real interesting factory custom that pretty much replicated a Fury ?
Looks like it is. Is either side going to argue the other down ? Probably not. 
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Location: Connecticut | Dr. D: We're just trying to shed some light on the topic. So if this car ever shows up on Feebay or at one of the major auctions as The Only Factory Authorized 1958 Fury Convertible Ever Built, there is a discussion that folks can read, then make up their own minds. Ron
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Dr. D: We're just trying to shed some light on the topic. So if this car ever shows up on Feebay or at one of the major auctions as The Only Factory Authorized 1958 Fury Convertible Ever Built, there is a discussion that folks can read, then make up their own minds. Ron
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Roger that. But it seems to be more of an argument of semantics. By acknowledging
what legitimacy is present as one points out what is not, might turn this from an argument
to a more civil discussion ? Just a thought. 
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Location: Connecticut | No argument here. Just a civil discussion. Ron
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Location: bishop, ca | ..And, don't forget about/overlook this "Fury's" color.....
I wonder if the "Air Foam seats and backs", as referenced in the "L" series of standard Fury items references
the specific Fury upholstery-and-trim-panel features?
The reason that I think that it would NOT include the Fury 'upholstery', at least in a convertible application,
is due to the vert's unique rear seat/trim-panel configurations, which the Fury interior (2-door hardtop) motif
would not accommodate.
So, I'm betting with Ron that this car was delivered with a Belvedere convertible interior---but with "Air Foam" padded seats!
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Location: bishop, ca | As much as anything else; this car's IBM card will describe the interior style (Belvie/Fury) and the interior colors---
I'm thinking that this ride might have had the flashy red interior in it, but, it could have had the mundane black/white
motif, as well.
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | "Dukeboy" this is an interesting thread and backs up the story that Ricky Nelson did have a special order 1958 "Fury" convertible.I wonder if the car had the special Fury interior too?
Hopefully one day someone can find some color photos or further documentation of it...anyone here related to the Nelsons?
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Location: bishop, ca | You won't need any color photos to confirm a Fury interior, from a Belvie one.
Again, the convertible's back seat configuration probably prevented a Fury (hardtop) interior from being installed into
this car.
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | d500neil - 2011-08-18 7:16 PM
You won't need any color photos to confirm a Fury interior, from a Belvie one.
Again, the convertible's back seat configuration probably prevented a Fury (hardtop) interior from being installed into
this car.
What I meant was a color photo of Ricky Nelson with his "Fury" convertible,just to prove he did indeed have one and that it had Fury scripts installed along with the gold sportone,gold grille,silver V,etc.
I thought about the backseat thing too,but wondered if maybe the used Fury style door panels.
I am curious,Ron mentioned that all 1958 Plymouth Belvederes (even four doors) could have special order gold sportone toward the end of production,has anyone seen one of these before? they must be pretty rare.
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Location: Sept. 1958 | What would be interesting is if the owner of this car has photos of what the interior looked like, since he got it in 1964, it should have been all factory original. Perhaps he doesn't show the car off because people will be on one side or the other on what it really is. Is this a Fury Convertible, interesting question.
Not sure what the built date is, but this one is well before my 2 cars built at Evansville, one is XXXX66942 and was built May 22, 1958. I know serial numbers aren't always one after another but this can give some insight on the appx build date.
Whatever it is, it's still a special built car and those are always neat as hell. To see a build card for it would be awesome. Too bad Mopar didn't make say a Regal Lancer Conv or 60 Desoto Conv special. |
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | "Christine-lover",I agree a 1960 DeSoto Adventurer convertible would have been nice! |
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Location: Building incorrect cars since 2000!! | I think this is a good lesson for all those who say a car could not be right because of this or that being on it. I seems clear to me that they would ship out about anything you wanted if you were gonna buy it heck I bet you could have got a Savoy with Fury trim a slant 6 and manual trans  They wanted to sell cars!!! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | My 60 Fireflite coupe came to me with a 383, crossrams, 3-speed on the floor, 12" brakes all
around, clear glass, manual steering, brakes, seats, and windows, no drip rail trim and no back-
up lights. It also had no heater (something VERY unusual for such a cool / cold climate area) and
no radio. The man the car died with knew nothing about it's history, but the original license plate
frame said "Hanson-Hawk, DeSoto-Plymouth, Bellingham, Wn." This gave some indication where
it came from. Once I had it on the road, strangers came forward when they saw the car and told
that this car was once a very famous fixture up around Bellingham, and that it belonged to the son
of either Hanson or Hawk and was seen racing all over the area. Several said he'd just park beside
the then-new Highway 99 on the long straight stretches between Conway and English Hill, taking
all comers.
According to factory specs, a 383 was only available in the Adventurer as were the rams. No Desoto
got the Chrysler 12" brakes, and to date, it is the only 60 DeSoto I have ever seen with back up light
block-off plates.
Did the factory build the car this way ? I guess we'll never know unless someone finds it buried
in the microfiche. With a dealership at his disposal, no telling if they pulled some strings in Detroit
or just built it the way they wanted in the service dept. But it was a unique car.
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-08-18 10:51 PM
My 60 Fireflite coupe came to me with a 383, crossrams, 3-speed on the floor, 12" brakes all
around, clear glass, manual steering, brakes, seats, and windows, no drip rail trim and no back-
up lights. It also had no heater (something VERY unusual for such a cool / cold climate area) and
no radio. The man the car died with knew nothing about it's history, but the original license plate
frame said "Hanson-Hawk, DeSoto-Plymouth, Bellingham, Wn." This gave some indication where
it came from. Once I had it on the road, strangers came forward when they saw the car and told
that this car was once a very famous fixture up around Bellingham, and that it belonged to the son
of either Hanson or Hawk and was seen racing all over the area. Several said he'd just park beside
the then-new Highway 99 on the long straight stretches between Conway and English Hill, taking
all comers.
According to factory specs, a 383 was only available in the Adventurer as were the rams. No Desoto
got the Chrysler 12" brakes, and to date, it is the only 60 DeSoto I have ever seen with back up light
block-off plates.
Did the factory build the car this way ? I guess we'll never know unless someone finds it buried
in the microfiche. With a dealership at his disposal, no telling if they pulled some strings in Detroit
or just built it the way they wanted in the service dept. But it was a unique car.
"Doc"
That sounds like a really cool "stripper" DeSoto,I bet you miss it,was it really rusty?
Were there delete plates over the holes where the backup lights would have been or was the sheet metal just smooth?
Dont know if this is true or not,but according to this guy the 12" brakes were standard with the cross ram "power charge" option on the DeSoto.
Heres the link
http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/112581/index.html
Partial description from ad-
"FIRST, it’s a Desoto. 1960 was the last year for the Adventurer & the last full production year for all Desotos. This is 1 of 4! Desoto Adventurer 2-door hardtops known with the "Power Charge" option, and the ONLY one known in this color combo that came factory-equipped with the RCA "Ultra-Fi", 45 rpm record player! (Not present but are available)
This has the 383ci, low-deck or "B" Wedge engine called the "Turbo Flash” by Desoto & in its “Ram Charge” configuration it puts out a whopping 330 hp/ 460 lbs. ft. of torque!
Why it’s a GENUINE “Cross-Ram”/"Power Charge" Desoto
Ø *CODE 356! - Documented.
Ø Fender liners have removable panel to access rear plugs as found only on the “Cross-Ram” engine.
Ø Transmission dipstick is Factory re-routed to accommodate the Ram-Induction tunnels.
Ø Engine Block # P38 115 (Correct 1960 “B” block & Date Range)
Ø Brakes- Power - Front: 12" drums, Rear: 12” drums, specific to & required for “Cross-Ram”
*Original IBM punch card from Chrysler Historical as pictured on Website showing the car was Factory-Equipped with the correct Code 370 – “Ultra-Fi” 45 RPM Record Player & Code 356 – “Cross-Ram”/ “Power Charge” engine w/ corresponding VIN on the card – Priceless! See a Dealer Specification Schedule on Website for more validation.
Carburetion: Complete dual AFB Carters on long aluminum, tunnel runners. Engineers called this “Resonance Supercharging”. Car has rebuilt, model- specific Hi-Performance Carter Fuel Pump."
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Location: Dellslow, West ("By God") Virginia ! | 1960DesotoAdventurer - 2011-08-18 7:23 AM
I am curious,Ron mentioned that all 1958 Plymouth Belvederes (even four doors) could have special order gold sportone toward the end of production,has anyone seen one of these before? they must be pretty rare.
Didn't Ronald ('56 Fury) Swartley, have a 4-door set of gold Sport Tone, IN THE BOX, he was wanting to sell a decade or so ago,,,,,? |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I was driving this car at the height of my war with the lexus-snob yuppies who had moved to
town and taken over city hall, trying to run riff-raff like us old car drivers out through police
harassment. I paid dearly for having that car, let me tell you ! 
I sold the car to a guy out of Tacoma who already had several 60 DeSotos and was real
excited to get this one, as well as two others I sold as a lot.
Several years later, a friend asked me if I had heard about the guy who bought my 60 DeSoto
stuff and proceeded to tell me that he got into some kind of bind and all his cars were hauled off
for scrap. I never verified the info and I hope it is not true. It would be a sad end to a very special
car. 
Do I miss it ? Not so much "miss it", as regret not getting it into the right hands for preservation. I
really dropped the ball as caretaker on that one. At the time, I had made myself "car poor" with too
many cars and needed to focus my interests. While I like the 60-61 DeSotos a lot, the 57-58's are
hands-down my favorites, and when it came time to whittle it down to just one, the 58 won out.
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Thats a shame.I'd like to think you won the war against the starbucks sipping lexus driving finned car haters,but as the old saying goes "You cant fight city hall"...unless you build a "killdozer" like that guy in the news.
As much as I do like the 1960 DeSotos,I have to agree that the 1957-1958 cars are my favorites too,but if the choice is between a 1959 DeSoto or a 1960,the 1960 wins every time.
Sorry to hear about your 60 DeSoto,I sure hope it didnt get hauled away for scrap.
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Thats a shame.I'd like to think you won the war against the starbucks sipping lexus driving finned car haters,but as the old saying goes "You cant fight city hall"...unless you build a "killdozer" like that guy in the news.
As much as I do like the 1960 DeSotos,I have to agree that the 1957-1958 cars are my favorites too,but if the choice is between a 1959 DeSoto or a 1960,the 1960 wins every time.
Sorry to hear about your 60 DeSoto,I sure hope it didnt get hauled away for scrap.
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I won the war with City Hall, but the drones ultimately took the town and turned it
into the sterilized, boiled down, faceless strip mall sprawl they came from other places
to escape.
In a crazy irony, I was through there a few years ago and the City was sponsoring some
community festival, complete with car show. 20 years ago they'd hassle you to death for
that car. Today you get a golden invitation to come park it for a day in one of the vast
parking lots that used to be a pasture. Of course, NOW it is in a tightly controlled environment
with fees and everyone gets a T-shirt.
The 1960 cars were slick. No doubt about it. My biggest deciding factor against them when
choosing was the lack of color sweep and interior fabrics. The 57-58 years were just that much
more "Googie".
A 59 would be my last choice of FL car, regardless of line. In fact, I'd go to GM before I did a
59 Mopar. The Buick, Chev, and Pontiac were all very good looking cars that year.
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Location: Connecticut | alumcanTandThd - 2011-08-18 11:34 PM Didn't Ronald (Elvis) Swartley, have a 4-door set of gold Sport Tone, IN THE BOX, he was wanting to sell a decade or so ago,,,,,? Hmmm...maybe that's who I'm thinking of, since I saw the documentation, but not the actual pieces, at Carlisle. Ron Calling Elllllllvis.....
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Location: bishop, ca | Would it be a Fury, if it still had the Belvedere interior in it, and it was coded as being a Belvie?
And, it was painted in black.
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Location: CA | I don't know why people are so confused by this, the very first line item in the order sheet is "Belevedere 2-dr convertible." The car isn't a Fury even though it was ordered in Fury dress. What I see is a very special car but not a Fury. |
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Location: Kangasala, Finland | Does anyone know what emblem on the rear fin says?
In my book, if the factory would make real one off convertible Fury it should have Fury-scrips on the fin to state that it was build/meant as a Fury by the manufacturer. Otherwise it is just dressed up Belvedere. - and don't get me wrong, it would still be very special car. I do understand that it still would have the usual Belvedere convertible body numbers and manufacturing plant - after all it did came from the same line as the rest of the converts - no need to change those for a one off.
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Location: Building incorrect cars since 2000!! | d500neil - 2011-08-19 8:37 PM
Would it be a Fury, if it still had the Belvedere interior in it, and it was coded as being a Belvie?
And, it was painted in black.
I am on pins and needles Neil dont leave me hangin!! Is it a Fury or not!! What if they could not identify the Belvedere interior do to the piss yellow(I me gold) seat covers???
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Did you notice that "Belvedere" was misspelled on the original Chrysler line sheet? So actually, this was an even rarer factory "Belevedere".. :-)
It's cool to see original documentation for one of these "phantom" cars. Like you said "never say never". In the late 80's I spoke to a man who owned a Plymouth-Dodge dealership in Winston-Salem NC back in the 60's. He told me that during the late 60's one of the heirs to the RJ Reynold's fortune came in and ordered a 426 Hemi D-100 pickup. He was told that a D-100 with a Hemi was not available from the factory, but they would see what they could do. The dealership sent the order into Chrysler and about six weeks later, a white D-100 showed up with a 426 Hemi installed. The fender tag on the truck showed that it was originally built with a 383, but someone at the factory had pulled it out and shoehorned in the 426. (I would guess that it helps to be a multi-millionaire when you place one of these special orders!) The dealership owner told me he never saw the truck again after the new owner drove it off the lot.
Sorry. Not trying to hijack your thread!
Just discovered this thread. Not only is "Belevedere" mis-spelled, so is the name of the transport company. There's no "i" in Cassens.
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Location: Connecticut | 'Belvedere' mis-spelled ? Cassens mis-spelled ? A car built in Evansville, IN sent to a Detroit dealership ? Not likely. Also, if this were typed back in 1958, the letters would not be so clear and evenly spaced, since it would have been created by a mechanical process (typewriter, etc). So I doubt the authenticity of this document. Ron |
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Location: Connecticut | soiouz - 2015-03-31 7:03 PM The window sticker up there is "affixed pursuant to federal law". I thought those stickers were put on cars starting in 59 for new 1959 cars only?... Yes, also Chrysler Motors Corporation ? Also, wouldn't there be a logo of some sort ? Also Manufacturers should have an apostrophe. Bogus, IMHO. Ron |
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The one "option" that gets me is the extra $100 for a black paint job! The car is not a Fury and charging $100 for a colour that was no extra charge on any non-Fury car is ridiculous. Whoever did the pricing sheet just pushed things a little too far.
Would like to see the IBM card for this car.
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| its a highly optioned belv... nice car. He should paint it red and white
it shouldn't be hard to get the info from the Chrysler historical society? I can also see someone wanting a fury car with other colors.
I am not sure about black Plymouths... I think it hides to much on the car or brings out the chrome too much.
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Location: California | Black an extra cost color? I don't think so. 100.00 extra in 58 was big money. |
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1958 Plymouth Fury Convertible......
